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allen,

i do not want to pursue this on minutus. i think this level of discussion is out of place here. but i will
maintain my position that your information base is limited.

tanya

I think my answer to Allen's comments will by necessity be VERY off-topic so
I will respond to him privately.
If you want a copy, please contact me PRIVATELY.

The book prize offer still stands - dead line End of Jan 2004.

Soroush
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Allen wrote : - I do not see Jews acting to attack Palestinians (except
in isolated cases) without having been first attacked by suicide bombers
Please don't write "Jews" - write "Israelis". There are plenty of non Jews in the army!! Jew denotes a religion not people of the country called Israel. I note that you write "Palestinians" not "Muslims".

Regards

Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

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I used the word because it was used in a prior post by someone else. I
realize the difference but, I use it when I want to tweak those who wish to
target the Jews for persecution and destruction. Certainly these same people
want to see Israel destroyed as it one of the few safe havens in the world
for the Jews. Israel is also targeted as it is the only democracy in the
Middle East and, thus, it represents a threat to the various governments
which exist not to serve their people but, only to serve themselves. The
terrorism that is employed by these governments and various groups that
support one government against another or which seek to overthrow a ruling
entity so that they can then control its territory, never serves the people
that it claims to represent. Terrorism serves only itself. Terrorism is
unfocused, it is chaotic, it is a demonic evil that exists only of and for
itself. It draws in weaklings, malcontents and self centered bullies and
thugs who are deluded into thinking that they will serve some god by
destroying a targeted race or group. Terrorism is an autoimmune disorder in
the body of humanity. It is cells (souls) that have gone wild, attacking
parts of its own body, as it cannot understand the justice or wisdom of
seeing the entire body work and exist together and thereby flourish. In
seeking to control bits and pieces of territory within the larger body and
to exalt itself above those that it perceives to be less desirable or
important than itself, it will destroy the unity of the whole. This is its
only goal. It will not liberate anyone or anything. It will only serve
itself. It is evil and destructive. It is a highly syphilitic mentality and
is the inevitable result of the sycotic and syphilitic miasms which control
mankind. As such, one can see that it will not be disabled or destroyed
until its hosts are disabled or destroyed. This is the future of mankind.
Terrorism will not go away until all who resort to it are removed from the
Earth. This will happen soon. Individual cells (souls) can inoculate
themselves against the inevitable destruction by recognizing the unity of
all of humanity and conducting themselves accordingly. Anyone who does not
is exhibiting the sycotic and ultimately the syphilitic miasm and will
eventually be destroyed by the greater body itself after the remedy
homeopathic to this disease state is administered. Mankind will be brought
to its deathbed, however, before this can be accomplished. The time for this
is almost here. Just as the individual body is very efficient in removing
the offending disease through skin eruptions, diarrhea, convulsions and
various aggravations once the correct remedy is administered, so will the
greater body of humanity be and so will the Earth upon which we live. Just
as an individual human/animal body may lose a great deal of its own weight
in the process of eliminating a disease from itself, so will the greater
body of humanity. Expect much of the human race to perish during this
healing. Is this inevitable? No, but it WILL happen, as humans are a vain
and stiffnecked lot and do not have the collective wisdom to do it any other
way. This wisdom will be implanted in the greater human consciousness after
this process - the destruction of the most diseased elements of humanity and
the reprogramming of the remainder - is completed. There are some who would
choose to ignore and/or ridicule what I have said here and in other posts to
this list but, that does not change what is and what will be. The only way
the change can peacefully be accomplished is by every human being on this
planet changing from within but, sadly, that will not happen. Hahnemann
recognized that there are some diseases so potent and so consuming of the
human condition that humanity is powerless to overcome them without the help
of the well chosen remedy. Most humans do not have sufficient wisdom or
understanding to choose a remedy for themselves even after they recognize
that a problem exists. Remember, MOST humans on this planet don't even know
that they are sick and controlled by deadly miasms. Humanity as a whole
cannot change itself because it does not recognize that it is sick. Most of
YOU who are reading this do not realize the extent of your disease and
believe that you can continue with business as usual and that somehow,
things will work out. We are close to the end of this state of existence.
Sleep is death. Do not sleep. Wake up.
Allen

And I will maintain my position that you do not have any idea of what you
are talking about.

Allen

what is the remedy picture?

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i really need to say this. terrorism is a useless term. it is used by people in power to assault the efforts
of their opponents. i would say that all war is terrorism. that's what it does--terrorizes people. franz fanon
wrote quite explicitly of the effects of the terror created by the occupation of france in algiers, yet france
was not named a terrorist state. the usa is is terrorist state via its military threat and pre-emptive attacks
on less armed nations. and isreal is a terroist state for its inhumane treatment of a people that
they pre-emptively sought to remove from their ancestral lands for its own self-centered purposes.
people will always fight with whatever weapons they have. af-american slaves used psychology to
avoid or minimize the effects of their servitude and they did sabotage whenever they could; and they
ran to escape their subjugation. the iraqis are now using the means available to them to attack an
unwelcome, unwanted occupying and supressive force. and the palestinians are doing the same.
when these people win their freedom they will be known as freedom fighters to the world--except to
their oppressors, most likely. to not understand this perspective and the sinister and manipulative
play on words is delusional at best. it wrenches my gut to hear people who portend to be healers
speak in favor of the end justifying the means even if that allows the most inhumane treatment of
people simply because they have what you want.

and fyi, israel is not a democracy. from my understanding they do not have a constitution and only
pretend to democratic ideals. a democracy has to exist for all people, not just selective ones.
israel supported s.african apartheid and has adopted many of that country's losing tactics.

healer heal thyself

tanya

Can you guys do this privately, please?
on 1/16/04 12:43 AM, allen coniglio at anon058@adelphia.net wrote:

At 12:49 PM -0500 1/16/04, tanya wrote:

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My message to Tanya was PRIVATE.
It is clear that it is so.
That she posted it to the list is unfortunate.
No apologies from this end.

I do not wish to get further involved.

JW