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healthinfo6
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Re: Flu

Post by healthinfo6 »

Is it OK to suggest taking any previous year's homeopathic flu remedy would be efficacious?
Each year Boiron has a new Flu remedy, now out 2015 strain.
Does it matter since homeopathy is based on similar not idem?
Shouldn't any year's flu remedy be homeoprophylactic? I have older years and thought to use those.
Susan


Sheri Nakken
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Re: Flu

Post by Sheri Nakken »

who knows for sure. I never take such things.
Just increase C and D3 and give the remedy indicated if become ill.
So called flu is really detox and also D3 deficiency in my opinion
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Fran Sheffield
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Re: Flu

Post by Fran Sheffield »

Similar rather than idem is still better so acquiring a remedy according to strain is not necessary.

Any research we have on prophylaxis for other diseases shows that strain appears to be irrelevant.

Symptoms are the things that count so as long as the remedy matches those, nosode or not, it will be helpful.

Fran.


healthinfo6
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Re: Flu

Post by healthinfo6 »

Since the current flu vaccine is considered lacking some of the important strains appearing this year, and supposedly there is a flu "epidemic" in the USA, it could be a good way to show homeopathy helpful/preventitive, so wanted to know if using past year's Flu remedy useful.
Maybe Oscillococcinum could be used homeoprophylactically.
Possibly Boiron just relabels same Flu remedy with new year name.
How would they get current virus strains to potentize if they're not a medical facility?
Susan


Irene de Villiers
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Re: Flu

Post by Irene de Villiers »

I am with you on this Suan..

The oldest one will probably work best as it does in animals - being simlar and NOT idem does matter:-)
The one I use in cats is one I had made in 1996.

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Rachel
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Re: Flu

Post by Rachel »

I inquired to Washington Homeopathics about the flu nosode a few years ago. I believe I discovered that it was actually made from that year's flu vaccine. I am a little bit vague on this topic now, but I am pretty sure that that is what I found out. It made me very upset and raised a ton of questions. I do not know if this is how flu nosode is made at other companies. I believe it is well worth it to find out, before you go purchasing that remedy.

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Rachel
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Re: Flu

Post by Rachel »

I think the genus epidemicus is a much better way to approach treating the flu, than the flu nosode. Particularly since it is difficult to identify how the nosode is prepared, and that is a very important part of this picture.

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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Flu

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

In NZ we still use the original Influenzinum made from the 1918 flu epidemic...no need for anything else...

Joe.

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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: Flu

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

To have a Genus Epidemicus you need to have a number of sick people, the more the better....and some might even die of it....how can you ethically justify not giving a prophylactic treatment?

If there was a serial killer in your city, would you be happy if the police told you "we need a few more victims to establish a modus operandi and a psychological profile, then we will be able to focus on catching him"?

Primum non nocere does not apply any more?

Joe.

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Fran Sheffield
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Re: Flu

Post by Fran Sheffield »

If it is made from the vaccine I would not trust it for prophylactic effects. Potentising a vaccine with all its adjuvants creates a very different remedy to a potentised nosode.

I wish I still had the info at my fingertips but I can remember reading the late Tinus Smits some years ago in which he reported his results on using homeopathy prophylactically - they were below 50% efficacy from what I remember and so he was not recommending the procedure. When I checked on what he was using, it was the potentised vaccines.

Also, if purchasing presumed nosode remedies from pharmacies for prophylactic use, do check they are definitely prepared from the nosode as, in the past, many pharmacies used the vaccines because of the difficulties in obtaining the true nosode. As hom. remedies and back potencies stay on the shelves forever, it would be very wise to ask for confirmation of what your "measles" or "chickenpox" etc remedy was prepared from.

Sad this is what we have to do but those who manufacture homeopathic remedies have not always been homeopaths familiar with the detail of our philosophy and remedy / potentisation effects.

Fran.


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