Minutus

Thankyou! I recently started using up an old jar of it (strangely enough),
and it's actually very tasty! Didn't know it had calcium tho; that's good
news. And that's the clearest explanation I've got so far about the cow
milk/calcium issue, so thank you again!

Shannon
on 9/2/03 5:25 PM, Patricia Hatherly at triciah@rnhconsulting.com.au wrote:

Hi Patricia,

Yup, frustrating!!!! I do get help with them (family and friends),
unfortunately in a sporadic way for "technical" reasons. Several of them,
esp. my daughter, aren't willing to be "grilled" by anyone (any more
homeopaths) other than me, so they are stuck with me for now! But they are
happy to play "guinea pig" for me, so the journey continues... And I do
indeed think that intuition thing is a treasure!

I understand how I might use lac-h in LMs, but what is it you do with the 7c
-- NMN for at full moon once, or for some months, or ?? And would I expect
to see definite result before the second full moon, in your experience, or
not necessarily? Normally I expect a remedy to "declare itself" (show its
usefulness or not) pretty promptly, but I'm not sure whether this is a
situation where I ought to, or not?

Lac-h has a fairly distinct picture, which my daughter doesn't seem to
particularly fit at the moment -- tho in earlier years maybe she did; she
used to have such a strong core of sorrow about some separation that has
never happened in this life, but from birth she was full of fear and grief
over it. Lyss, Puls, and Psor were the main ones that addressed that part
of her "baggage", and now I don't feel that in her any more (which is a
blessing!!!) Lacking clear connection between her present symptoms and the
lac-h picture, would I still have any basis for using it with her, or (from
your experience with and understanding of the remedy) is it just something I
should keep in mind perhaps for the future? Or are there things I've
described that *do* suggest it to you?

(Current main issues would be *stamina*(!!!), the milk allergy (plus, loves
foods that <<< and will not eat foods that she really, really needs), desire
and tendency to duck responsibility, and I guess those are what mainly
concern me, and seem to hold her back.)

Shannon
on 9/2/03 5:42 PM, Patricia Hatherly at triciah@rnhconsulting.com.au wrote:

Oh, how funny!!!!
That means "kidney pain", right?
on 9/2/03 6:48 PM, Dr. J. Rozencwajg. MD. PhD. at jroz@ihug.co.nz wrote:

Yes, it is the pain you have when you pass a stone in your urinary tract.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind""

Dear Shannon and Joy

These S/S put me in mind of Tub.
Was that tried?

I find that the bowel nosodes give best service in "mending" a gut much
aggravated by food intolerance, so I
like Joy's suggestion.

Morgan pure is the bowel nosode which "covers" Tub (among others) and; from
my clinical experience is also complementary to Lac-h.

I'm finding (increasingly) that after trying Rx such as Lyc and bowel
nosodes (all well-indicated) true healing of the gut then takes place under
Lac-h given in the LM potencies or 7C. It seems to go back and "do" the work
that wasn't completed at the breast since weaning occurred "too early" (ie
before the gut had a chance to complete its' maturation; among other things
human milk contains epithelial growth factor).

As mothers are weaning I get them to express some milk from both breasts and
I hand succuss a Rx of their Lac-h up to 7C to have then as a tonic if the
toddler shows signs of various "intolerances" down the track.
regards
Patricia

Dear Shannon

A teaspoonful of green barley grass powder mixed in water gives the daily
requirement of most minerals but especially calcium.

When people "protest" that they need cow's milk for their daily calcium I
like to remind them that weaned cows get all their calcium from eating
grass.

In human milk the calium/phos ratio is 1:1; in cow's milk it is 1:3 (cow's
generally grow bigger bones than humans) and, because the calcium is bound
tightly to the phos (because it's in the casein fraction of the cow's milk),
most of the calcium is excreted via the bowel.

In human milk most of the calcium is in the skim fraction and some is bound
to fats so ALL the calcium is bio-available.

regards
Patricia

Dear Shannon

Sounds like a frustrating problem for you; treating one's own children can
be "trying" to say the least;we know them well but find it difficult to be
the "unprejudiced observer"!

Over the years my family members have all had their own Homoeopaths but in
times of crisis have all turned to mum for "spot on prescribing" (most be
something about mothers and children and intuition).

RE lac-h.....If one takes the view that the "need" for human milk in the
formative years is for 4 years (archaelogical evidence shows that our cave
dwelling sisters breastfed for 5 years after which no more milks were
had...no domesicated herds back then), then lac-h needs time todo its' work.
I like to go up gradually in the LMs for as long as it takes or repeat 7C (I
often choose NMN at the full moon or new moon as, like Carc to which it is
complentary (Sankaran), there is sensitivity at those times).

WE need tokeep in mind that Lac-h is essentially a sarcode (it's an
excretion from a gland and its manufacture and delivery are governed by
hormones) so 7C is an excellent (and safe) long term potency. I use it as an
intercurrent with Baryta-c children for whom Baryta seems to do no more.

regards
Patricia

Dear Shannon, still sounds remarkably like Penicillinum to me - have a read
up. Possibly a Silica taint as well - both within the Tubercular range.

best, Joy
on 9/2/03 11:05 PM, Bob&Shannon at shannonnelson@tds.net wrote:

Hi Patricia and Joy,

She's had Tub several times over the years, with never any response -- which
always seems odd, as she has had *SOOOOO* many physical and emotional sxs of
the remedy and the miasm!!!! Lac-h I tried in low potency (no apparent
response, but maybe not have been patient enough), but will probably try it
again in the future.

Bowel nosodes seem like a very good idea tho, and maybe I'll try that next
-- will have to look them over some more. Thanks for the suggestion re
Morgan pure.

Could you say a bit about what sort of response I might expect from lac-h or
that in this sort of situation? At this point in her life she's doing
fairly well, except for being *way* low on stamina (has been homeschooled
for four years basically because she couldn't get up in the morning and/or
handle full days of school w/o going thru cycles of illness; these are much
better now [esp. better since recent Lyc!], but we'll see how this year goes
-- she's trying school again, oh trepidatious me! Her emotional sxs are I
would say sort of Lyc-like (obviously) (awesomely nasty to the little
brother, yet fairly obsequious with non-family adults and peers; a funny
combination of bravado and timidity; oversensitive to many things, both
emotionally and physically). Overall, tho, she's doing pretty well right
now, *IF* (and it's a biggie) she stays away from junk food, speaking of
reasons to doubt this decision to re-school....

Anyway, should I assume that a bowel nosode (and/or lac-h) would need to be
given low potency over a period of many weeks before passing judgment? (Or
high????) Sometimes our results have been *so* quick and dramatic, and I'm
thinking maybe I tend to give up too easily sometimes...

Thanks for the thoughts!!!
Shannon
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Hm, I'm not sure what to think about Penecillin. (She benefits from silica
every now and then.) I see that some things fit, yet in a very general way.
She's never had penecilin, nor have I except once as a teen (no apparent
aftereffects). But then, she benefitted hugely from Lyssin, and had never
been bitten by any dog...

Tho it covers the boils (which she had only in the long past, and only from
milk), it does not (so far as I am reading to far) cover the fits and
tantrums that milk predisposed her to, and I don't see much at all about
other mentals. Covers general predisposition to allergies -- which she
certainly has! -- and a depleted state -- ditto...

Vermeullen's list of remedies to compare { Sulphur. Silicea. Calcarea
carbonica. Sepia. Mercurius. Nepenthes) are all, except the last, ones that
she's benefitted from in the past, which is interesting.

Can you say any more about why it seems especially indicated?
Since I've been floundering for so long, I'm really willing to try about
anything. If I do try this with her, what posology would you suggest, and
are you seeing this as an "overall" remedy for her, or more an un-blocker
(tho I dunno where that particular block would have come from) or something
else?

Curious,
Shannon
on 9/3/03 7:00 AM, Joy Lucas at joy.lucas@ntlworld.com wrote:

Its just that it reminds me of a case that did so well on this and there was
only a vague issue around the possible causation of a nbws the antibiotic
but a huge one with milk, and because the picture seemed to fit so well I
gave it.

What happened to the boils, any treatment or suppression, it might seem so
as the state has gone inwards as far as her fits and tantrums. I am very
curious about how and why this has happened. It made me think about going
right back to the beginning of the case and thus the boils are still
important to me.

This rx is sycotic as well as tubercular and with allergies present (which
can create horrendous moods in themselves) you can expect an alternating
state of energy (fits and tantrums) and asthenia (a very depleted state).

It is hard to say whether you have a situation that is blocked, i.e. the
indicated remedy isn't working and if so why not - or - she simply hasn't
had the right remedy.

And we don't know the whole case - sometimes it is worth looking elsewhere
for the simillimum, although what you say about her are strong and guiding
sx, perhaps there is another aspect of the case that will give further
clues.

best wishes, Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 9/3/03 6:01 PM, Bob&Shannon at shannonnelson@tds.net wrote:

Hm, I'm not sure what to think about Penecillin. (She benefits from silica
every now and then.) I see that some things fit, yet in a very general way.
She's never had penecilin, nor have I except once as a teen (no apparent
aftereffects). But then, she benefitted hugely from Lyssin, and had never
been bitten by any dog...

Tho it covers the boils (which she had only in the long past, and only from
milk), it does not (so far as I am reading to far) cover the fits and
tantrums that milk predisposed her to, and I don't see much at all about
other mentals. Covers general predisposition to allergies -- which she
certainly has! -- and a depleted state -- ditto...

Vermeullen's list of remedies to compare { Sulphur. Silicea. Calcarea
carbonica. Sepia. Mercurius. Nepenthes) are all, except the last, ones that
she's benefitted from in the past, which is interesting.

Can you say any more about why it seems especially indicated?
Since I've been floundering for so long, I'm really willing to try about
anything. If I do try this with her, what posology would you suggest, and
are you seeing this as an "overall" remedy for her, or more an un-blocker
(tho I dunno where that particular block would have come from) or something
else?

Curious,
Shannon
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