holding penis in 7 yr old - Update

[Joy Lucas]

Dear Shannon, from my point of view I did say that I had missed most of
these posts and there seemed to be nothing else to the case except for the
'handling' (for whatever reason) of the penis. If the other 2 sx are or
were, at some point, prominent sx, then this does give even more credibility
to choosing Merc. This is keynote prescribing but if that is all there is,
then so be it - that is the 'deep' totality, although that 'deepness' seems
quite shallow, but it is THE case, unless, of course there are other issues
which we have not been told.

Personally, I think it is so much easier when there are not many sx or
rubrics to choose from and I always 'trim' cases right down to their bare
essentials - perhaps you might want to try that sometime, just as an
experiment - take just a few of the guiding sx of a case and work with those
and see what you come up with. Let's do that with the case you are about to
show us?

Symptoms are just that, signs of what is going on. Simple grading of them is
usually enough without making the case too complicated.

Best wishes, Joy
on 8/20/03 4:13 PM, Bob&Shannon at shannonnelson@tds.net wrote:

Hi Patricia and Joy,

I'm puzzled by this... I don't understand why we can say Merc represents a
"deeper totality" simply by virtue of covering these three rubrics. Over
and over I have cases where a given remedy covers *many* rubrics -- each of
which was carefully considered and IMO strong in the case, and yet the
remedy doesn't act. (Actually I'm getting ready to put one of them up, and
so this dicussion seems very appropos to that!)

I'm not meaning this in a critical way -- my prescribing is *way* too
hit-or-miss for me to get critical! -- but trying to understand. I
understand this (the concomitant and 3 rubrics) to be a terrific basis for
*considering* Merc, but I would have thought there needed to be lots more
indications to justify giving it???? Also, two of the three I would have
considered local symptoms and thereby not so compelling (burning urethra and
lice -- I realize that lice occur only according to susceptibility, but then
so does burning urethra... Help!).

??
Shannon
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[Patricia Hatherly]

Dear Rochelle

Merc is the only Rx which appears on all 3 rubrics which I consider cover
the case.
It's there in "handliong genitals"; "burning urethra" (and other associated
rubrics) and in "head lice in children" [Murphy].

It's an example of Allen's 3 legged stool of Keynotes which is what we get
to comment on in the list. It's awkward not having the full picture that one
gets when being present and seeing the case live; the paper exercise is
always less than satisfactory!

It's very interesting that Merc was the first Rx presecribed which gave a
good response. That leads me to make the observation that Hering's Law to
Cure is at work and the weak points in the body are now lower down!

I'd be inclined to try 200C in a water potency tds until he's pain free
(probably 24-36 hours); with a few succussions in between.

regards
Patricia

[Rochelle]

Just spoken to Mum. The Clematis 6x lasted until 4 pm - Mum and dad reckon he is better tonight but is still itching his head a lot!! Mum is using the conditioner method for the head lice . However he has now got a mouth ulcer, the first he has ever had!!!! This is looking more like Merc now!!! Since the Clematis seems to have done fairly well we are repeating it tonight , before bed and if he is bad when he wakes in the morning , after a wee (interesting) like this morning Mum will give him a Merc V. 30.
I will report again tomorrow!!
Regards
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

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[Rochelle]

Certainly has!!!! I will find out when the last one was!!

Mum's sister died of cancer at 21 and mum feels she was let down but the medical profession which is why she has such an anxiety about health. She wanted the kids to have all the vaccinations. However last week she phoned me because they were re vaccinating kids for something or other after a year and I told her that last time they did that it was because the rubella vaccine was near the end of its date stamp life!! Anyway she went with this time and declined the offer for her youngest!! She tends to take the kids to the allopathic doctor first get the prescription which she doesn't get made up and then phone me. She seems to want a diagnosis each time. Have explained that homeopaths don't diagnose but prescribe on the presenting symptoms. She has attended my 8 week homeopathic evening course so has a fair understanding of homeopathic practice.

Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

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[Patricia Hatherly]

Dear Shannon

To my mind casetaking is a bit like trying to see the trees in spite of the
forest!
Which particular trees [ie rubrics] catch the eye? Those that stand out and
cover the total picture.
We always need to give attention to the pathology in any acute but need also
to look at any other strong symptoms be they M/E or physical.
Trying to decipher what's really going on in a paper case discussion such as
this is always second best and we really are restricted to keynote
prescribing as Joy mentioned. However, that is OK as long as it looks more
at the totality. Prescribing just on the pathology or local acute symptoms
can be a bit hit and miss. Looking wider allows us to get a deeper
understanding of what is going on.
Why is this child (whom Rochelle describes as a lovely, meek child) in a
Merc state? Rochelle has he been vaccinated? If so, I'd put my money on him
trying to rid his body of the side effects of vaccines (thiomersal is the
main fixative for DPT and Hep B). I've often been in the clinical situation
of having to give new born babies Merc for reactions to their vaccines. If
this little one is a vital child and his mum uses Homoeopathy his body won't
"accept" pathogens lightly. He'll get strong symptoms as his vital force
attempts to effect some sort of resolution.

This doesn't have to be a vaccination issue but it's just a thought. Another
thought is to give appropriate nosode cover to accompany the Simillimum
depending on what bugs turn up in the blood test or culture. For strong
acute infections I usually give the Simillimum and the appropriate nosode
(usually Streptococcinum) in the 200C tds (intercurrently). I use 200C
because clinically I find it the best potency. I remember a teacher of mine
once telling me that a fire can't be put out with a thimble full of water
when I asked why my 6C Apis did nothing to assist with a strong systemic
aggravation from a bee sting!

Finally, the other thing to consider (re the deeper state) is that Merc was
this child's first and effective prescription. We could really get classical
here and argue that it is his Rx; and since symptoms have moved from the
throat to the penis (both red, stinging etc) we can point to Hering's Law to
Cure and see that he's still working his way through the state.

Hope this helps
regards
Patricia

[Rochelle]

Tonight Mum said there was not much change. She has given him 2 Merc 30 today and will give another tonight. This morning he came and said that the itch was really annoying him. He is still also scratching his head and Mum reckons he goes from one to the other and that it may be a habit. She can't see any head lice and there are a few eggs but they are away from the scalp. I take it she is still doing the conditioner and combing every other day. I asked about the mouth ulcer and she that he hadn't mentioned it today.

I'm out of ideas if this doesn't work. I suppose I could give him a dose of Tub.?

Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

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[Jean Doherty]

Try Staphysagria Good meek little boy whose penis is a trouble and who has
head lice Jean> Tonight Mum said there was not much change. She has given
him 2 Merc 30 today

[Joy Lucas]

Dear Rochelle,

Yes, this rx also seems another obvious choice - apart from being the number
one head lice rx it has 'voluptuous itching of scrotum' and lots of other sx
which would need to be reinterpreted for a 7 year old. But the skin of Staph
has intolerable itching anywhere - biting, itching, type pain.

Are the lice getting to the genital area?

Why Tuberculinum though?
on 8/22/03 3:41 AM, JeanW Doherty at clelly@tpg.com.au wrote:

Try Staphysagria Good meek little boy whose penis is a trouble and who has
head lice Jean>
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[Rochelle]

I shouldn't think that the lice were getting to the genital area as he is only 7 and has no hair there!! Tub because he has done so well on it in the past - but for respiratory stuff!! Thanks Jean and Joy.
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

[Joy Lucas]

The body has hair everywhere, presumably you have looked. Staph has a lot of
burning in the urethra, pain when not urinating, testicular disorders - not
sure if it is in the 'handles genitals' rubric though.

best, Joy

on 8/22/03 10:17 AM, ROCHELLE at rochelle@ntlworld.com wrote:

I shouldn't think that the lice were getting to the genital area as he is
only 7 and has no hair there!! Tub because he has done so well on it in the
past - but for respiratory stuff!! Thanks Jean and Joy.
Rochelle
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