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				Re: question
				Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:31 pm
				by Deepak Sharma
				Hello Tanya
  See the Calcarea group and match other syptoms
  regards
Tanya Marquette  wrote:
          can someone help me to identify when the periosteum is damaged as opposed
to soft tissue as in an injury?
ruts is listed under damage to periosteum where rhus tox lists soft tissue damage.
Tanya 
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				Re: question
				Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:50 pm
				by Joy Lucas
				As you probably know the periosteum is fibrous matter wrapped around
bone and soft tissue lays on top of that so one would imagine that
pains are deeper and possibly feel as though they affect the bone as
well. Ruta's affinity with fibrous tissue is well known and bones and
joints are affected also - the top keynote being a bruised aching
feeling, as if beaten or the pain feels as if in the marrow of the
bone which suggests deep sensations. Deposits also form within the
periosteum such as bone spurs maybe. With Rhus, which also affects
fibrous tissue the main sensation is stiffness and also because Rhus
has much more of an affinity to the skin than Ruta then this suggests
the upper layer, i.e. soft tissue is more sensitive, rather than the
deeper periosteum.
That would be my take on it anyway 

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damaged as opposed
tissue damage.
 
			 
			
					
				Re: question
				Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:15 am
				by Tanya Marquette
				thank you so much joy.  i love the clarity that you bring with your
explanations!
in an injury that has both characteristics of rhus t and ruta would
you think that alternating the rx's would work.  rhus t doesnt seem
to be making it.  yeh, i know, then you would probably say try the
ruta!
tanya
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				Re: question
				Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:20 am
				by Shannon Nelson
				It's funny, initially I had learned pretty distinct pictures of rhus-t 
and ruta, yet have found on a few occasions that ruta may be needed for 
what *looks* like rhus-t, and shares the modality of "worse motion, 
better on continued motion" and several other things!
Shannon
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				Re: question
				Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:45 am
				by muthu kumar
				One difference I have noticed is 
in Rhus tox there is an >> by stretching- this is a key note for 
Rhus tox. Patients with fever who stretch often need Rhus tox. There 
was one flu epidemic in the city ( following a rain)  where the 
patients felt better by stretching and Rhus tox was indicated in 
most of the cases....
Ruta < by stretching. Boericke emphasizes "thighs pain when 
stretching the limbs" - I cured a case of arthritis based on this 
when the patient had pain in thigh < going down stairs when she had 
to stretch the leg to the next step...
Since then I have verified it in a couple of other cases...
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				Re: question
				Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:50 am
				by Shannon Nelson
				Thank you, I'll keep this in mind!
Shannon
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				Re: question
				Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:04 pm
				by Joy Lucas
				A rx that has characteristics of both Ruta and Rhus tox = Stramonium? 
No, just kidding 
Seriously, I would never dream of alternating rx so if you are looking 
more towards Rhus tox but Rhus isn't curing then it might needs its 
complimentary rx Bryonia (different modalities though) but if Rhus 
isn't doing anything at all then yes, try the Ruta. Ruta isn't anywhere 
near as restless as Rhus, even though it is >> motion weakness soon 
sets in, so that is a very different sx scenario.
Don't forget about Bellis which is restless like Rhus, has to move and 
becomes extremely excitable. It has a deep bruising sensation (both 
emotional and physical) and creates a fair amount of swelling like 
arnica - difference being that bellis > cold and rhus > warm but maybe 
that would be a better choice than Ruta. Best wishes, Joy
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				Re: question
				Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 1:11 am
				by Pauline Ashford
				There is a good comparison of Rhus and Ruta in Homeopathy for 
Musculoskeletal Healing by Asa Hershoff p225 (ISBN 1-55643-237-2) Regards 
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				Re: question
				Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 2:39 am
				by Tanya Marquette
				thanks,  will have a look
tanya
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				Re: question
				Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 5:03 am
				by Shannon Nelson
				Thanks--it's not one I  have.  Can you give highlights of the 
comparison, by any chance?
Shannon
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