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Re: diabetes

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 9:00 pm
by Tessa Mackenzie
I was recently informed by a Diabetes Nurse that there is also set to be an
increase in Type 1 Diabetes as a consequence for those being prescribed
Olanzapine/Zyprexa as the drug of choice for psychoses. Apparently this
"causes diabetes", although it is not listed as a side effect in the New
Ethicals drug index. Not sure how this fits in with the Hippocratic Oath -
"shall do no harm"!! Olanzapine seems to have replaced
Risperidone/Risperdal, which is currently being redirected to ADHD children.
The side effects of this drug make for an impressive list.

Re: diabetes

Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2004 11:02 pm
by Sheri Nakken
At 10:36 AM 01/12/2004 +1300, you wrote:

How wonderful.
First do no harm!

And much increase in Type 1 Diabetes after vaccines
When I went to nursing school 68-71 and worked Peds adolescent unit
ALL children who came down wiht Type 1 DM had a family history.
Nowadays few do and they just change the rules................
Viruses have always been able to cause Diabetes and now we have vaccines
that do too
http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/diabetes.htm
Sheri
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Re: diabetes

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 5:32 pm
by elham
Dear friends,
When the groups become too big the daily digest becomes - well too difficult to digest. Few days back there was discussion on diabetes in minutus. I have had to deal with a lot of diabetic patients. I thought I would write something for the group. Hope I don't give you a headache!
Diabetes
Treating diabetes, like treating any other chronic disease can be studied under two headings. Treating the patient and treating the disease. As a rule our aim should be to treat the patient, which means we form an image of the sick individual and try to find a remedy that fits his individual picture. At times we are unable to form such a perfect image. In such situations we may have to depend on lesser known remedies that have produced symptoms similar to diabetes. Here again there is no routine medicine that can be given to all patients, but each case needs to be individualized. Even the smaller remedies have symptoms that help us choose them.
There is a little warning that I would like to give. At times in our eagerness to form a full and round picture we go out of our way and try to literally force a picture that is not actually there. If you have for example a sulphur patient, it will hit you right on the face (at least if you are a good classical homoeopath and have a fair amount of experience and knowledge). If it is not visible then probably it is not sulph. I am sorry to say so but there seems to be a new breed of Homoeopathic teachers who are trying to convince us that the indicated remedy is hidden deep inside and almost impossible to visualize and the only way we can find the remedy is by using devious means of interpreting symptoms in very irrational ways. I am not referring to any person on our list, but to Homoeopaths I meet every day and against whose teachings I feel compelled to warn you. If anyone comes to you with strange notions regarding disease and ways of treatment please refer them to the footnote of the first aphorism of Organon.
Now coming back to our subject Diabetes. The constitutional types are well known to all of us and there is probably nothing I can add to make them clearer. One advice I can give to newer Homoeopaths is not to forget the last step in case taking - confirming your remedy. Suppose you have taken your case and followed the steps outlined by Hahnemann and you have reached the conclusion that this is a phosphorous case. Don't just prescribe Phos. confirm your prescription. There are certain symptoms that you will almost always find in Phos patients such as desire for company, desire for cold drinks and salty food, chilly patient, sleeps on right side etc. A Phos patient should have at least the first three if not all the above symptoms. The most important constitutional remedies for diabetes are Sulph, Ac-phos, Lyco, Phos, Thuja, Med., Nat-s, Carc., Tarentula etc.
But if we cannot find a remedy that fits the whole picture we may have to depend on lesser-known remedies or on better-known remedies that have specific action against diabetes. What usually makes me think of these remedies is a combination of symptoms. If I find a peculiar combination I try to look further to see if it does not cover the whole case. Let us look at some of the remedies that have such combinations.
Arg- met has Diabetes with swelling of ankles. (Other symptoms might include polyuria worse at night, swelling of scrotum with itching, disposition to gangrene etc.)
Lactic acid: Diabetes with arthritis. (Other symptoms might include obstinate constipation, knee pains aggravated walking)
Ferr-mur: Diabetes with pain in right shoulder
Helonias: Diabetes with uterine affections and dullness usually in women who are jealous and become sad on seeing others happy.
Acet-ac: Diabetes with gastritis where the patient cannot lie on his back.
Uran-nit: Diabetes with insomnia, there may be associated hypertension and digestive problems (Flatulance etc.).
Lycopus-v: Diabetes with great irritability, and tumultuous action of heart. Diabetic neuropathy (Ac-ph, Phos)
Ars: Diabetes with blackness of external parts, and weakness.
Ars. Brom: Diabetes with acne.
syzygium: diabetes with skin ulcers.
Cephalandra: Diabetes with flatulence and pain in left hypochondrium.
How effective is Homoeopathy for diabetes. If you find the constitutional remedy you have a very good chance of curing NIDDM once and for all. If the patient is on Insulin the chances of cure are very little. The only times I have had success with IDDM is when the insulin had just been started.

I have seen all the remedies mentioned above (except syzygium, and Ars. Brom) either cure or palliate diabetes.

Best regards

Elham
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Re: diabetes

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2004 7:56 pm
by Sheri Nakken
THANKS much!

At 09:57 PM 02/25/2004 +0530, you wrote:
difficult to digest. Few days back there was discussion on diabetes in
minutus. I have had to deal with a lot of diabetic patients. I thought I
would write something for the group. Hope I don't give you a headache!
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Re: diabetes

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2004 8:57 pm
by Eleana Needham
Dear Elham

Thank you for summarising the subject so concisely - very very helpful!
Best
Eleana

Re: diabetes

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:03 pm
by Luise Kunkle
Hi to all those interested,

There is also a theory that too much protein in the diet causes type
II diabetes by clogging up the capilaries, so that there cannot be a
good exchange between blood in the caps and the interstitium.

It is not a fly-by-night theory by some unknown someone. Prof. Wendt
came up with it middle to end of last century and it was accepted
theory by most alternative healers and dietists for decades. (I do not
know what happened to it in the last 10 to 20 years or so.)

Just fyi:-)

Regards

Luise
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One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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Re: diabetes

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:35 pm
by Shannon Nelson
On Sep 2, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Luise Kunkle wrote:
Hi Luise,
I've puzzled over the too-much-protein idea for some years, and my
*guess* is that it becomes an issue when the protein is not fully
digested, rather than having to do with the amount per se. I used to
be both toxic from undigested proteins *and* showing signs of protein
defiency. (Enzymes were a big help in righting the digestion and
everything else; raw eggs were an even bigger help!) *Many* people do
not have good digestion, and many are hydrochloric acid-deficient,
which makes meat particularly hard to digest (and has other ill effects
also).

In times of stress, injury, illness, etc., the body's needs are
increased and digestive ability is often reduced. Traditional
approaches to that problem have included special foods: e.g. foods
which are "light" and "easy to digest"; liver; raw egg; soups, teas,
arrowroot, khichadi; probably every society has had their own.

pH seems to be another factor; if are are insufficient vegetables and
fruits in order to *balance* the protein intake, that causes wastes to
accumulate. I wonder if much of the benefit of "low protein diets"
comes not from the absence of protein (how can one heal without
protein??), but instead simply because more veggies and etc. are eaten
in order to fill up the tummy! Which would give the body a change and
a rest, and re-balance the pH?? (Personally (again, sorry) very
low-protein diets throw me quickly into either wild blood sugar swings
and/or adrenal meltdown, so I guess I have a bias!)

Shannon

Re: diabetes

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:36 pm
by Tanya Marquette
too much protein is too much of a good thing gone bad.
years ago i read in the ny times that red meat eating was linked
to cancer.
tanya

Re: diabetes

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 9:51 pm
by Teresa Kramer
Tanya, I bet that should be amended to “eating red meat” from animals that were fed corn and other things the animal wouldn’t ordinarily have access to and possibly given hormones and/or antibiotics (in other words the meat Americans generally eat) is linked to cancer, etc.
Feeding corn to cattle to fatten them is an idea that originated, I believe, in the 30s and became so wildly popular, because the meat is “marbled,” that we are only now managing—with some difficulty--to get meat from animals that are grass-fed.
That corn-fed meat is very probably linked to cancer, heart disease, and more. And very bad for the environment—internal and external.
If you have ever driven by a feed-lot or corral where cattle are kept in great numbers, you may think again before eating that meat. The smell goes on for miles after you pass one. Teresa (Northern VA)
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too much protein is too much of a good thing gone bad.
years ago i read in the ny times that red meat eating was linked

to cancer.
tanya

Re: diabetes

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 11:21 pm
by Tanya Marquette
yes teresa, i agree and even more. i wrote another short post that hasnt arrived
yet. there is so much to say about this that i chose to say very little. but yes,
organic meats--red and white, unpasteurized dairy products with all the enzymes
and phytonutrients in the cream and milk to help the dairy be digested and provide
nutrition and health to humans.
but in the yrs you reference, people were also much heavier physical workers and
burned up the heavy meat proteins. today such heavy meat protein eating is an
overload on the sedentary bodies that exist today. then add to that the impact of
all the corn products, antibiotics, hormones, gmo factors, pesticides, etc and we
have a diet that not only is not well nourshing, but highly toxic! and then when the
stress factors are added in, we are on massive overload. and this even before
we get to toxic pharmaceuticals and environmental horrors!
isn't this a grand time to be alive!
tanya
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