Minutus

Hia Jeff
Possibility of cure is indicated by the reactivity of the VF.
When the curative remedy is prescribed, the patient generally feels better in themselves - although some symptoms may remain
Suppression - The main symptoms has gone away, but others have taken its place - directions of cure are not achieved etc etc.
Importantly the patient does not feel well.
A spoilt case is often very difficult to treat. One aspect of spoilt cases through suppression is the fact that VF is weakened.
What is observed is that the patient has received 20 -50 remedies in quick time and none of them have achieved what the patient or the Hm were looking for. In fact yesterday in Sheilagh Creasy's master class we were looking at it and interestingly she was saying that the remedy that profoundly affected the patient had not even been prescribed for the 'spoilt' cases that she had inherited. So a lot is down to poor case taking / case analysis / case management.
Homoeopathy is only safe in careful and well-trained hands.
Where do you practise?

Regards

Soroush

Hi Jeff
In Yasgur's Homeopathic Dictionary it quotes:
Palliative - 1) tending to lessen or reduce pain or sickness when cure is no longer possible (although homeopathy can and does sometimes revive a case previously declared incurable). In a terminally ill patient, homeopathy can be used to ease the patient's suffering. 2) reduction of a portion of the symptom picture without curing the entire picture, which can happen if the remedy is not the simillimum yet is similar enough. "There is no extinction of the natural illness, but at best there will be a temporary suppression or displacement, which Hahnemann calls palliation."
Suppression - the act of driving a disease deeper inward, against Hering's Law. For example, a skin eruption is a manifestation of the conflict between the vital force and the disease and if suppressed (driven inward by any number of means) then the disease will appear later often in a more serious form. See HERING'S LAW.
"A forcible concealment or masking of perceptible manifestations of a disease condition without the cure of the disease." - S.C.F. Hahnemann, Organon of the Medical Art (O'Reilly trans., p. 354).
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Another homeopath sharpening the knife held to our throats!:-(

Since there is no concensus about what is well-trained you are telling
the holders of the knife that homeopathy is not safe - period.

It's exactly what we need;-)

Regards

Luise
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So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
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I wasn't aware, Soroush, that my input was not being displayed
on mintus. So here goes - I have addressed it to Mintus.
I live and practise in India.
Just to give you a little insight of homeopathy as practised by some in india:
homeopaths, in very crowded areas, use no more than 8 to 10 remedies
to encompass all ailments. They are very successful and they mantain that homeopathic
remedies have such a wide application that almost any remedy works (they see 1000 - 3000
patients per day)
If the remedy does not work and a patient comes back, they get a more detailed case taking.
Its amazing but most get Sulph, Nux vom, Ipecac, Calc carb, Nat mur, and
a few others.
To discontinue further verbosity, I shall end.
Jeff
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Not really. Even Kent said that he would rather go in to pit full of vipers than be treated by badly trained homoeopath.

Regards

Soroush

No one is denying that Hom Rx have wide applications.
Also Colleagues across the world who see 1000 patient's a week develop techniques for dealing with such high numbers and if certain prevailing conditions apply, then I would guess they would treat it as an epidemic (Aph 100 - 104) where only a few remedies are required to treat vast numbers.
More power to their elbows.
However, my understanding of your first post was that your were advocating the use of combination remedies.
Here in the West we are dealing with -if I may say so - a sicker clientele.
We have the aftermaths of serial VD passed down through generations, TB, Antibiotics, the Pill and vaccinations etc etc.
Hence the picture one gets is very cloudy and often difficult to see a clear remedy.
In contrast - when I see patients from the Middles East - or as colleagues who have worked in small towns in Eastern Europe have reported - one sees clear cases and as Peter Chappell called it 'Walking Materia Medica'. You see a clear Sepia or Puls etc sitting before you as defined by our materia Medica.

Regards

Soroush
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I agree with Soroush on this. In the US, when I work with clients who have quite recently come to the US from countries such as Israel, or many South American countries, they indeed present "walking Materia Medica" -- the remedy is clear, and a single 200c dose will clear up everything beautifully.
In the US, this is also true, interestingly, with people who have lived simple, rural lives with daily physical labor, eating the food they themselves have grown, and having had little allopathic medical treatment. It can be true of people whose parents did not fit into this kind of "natural " living, too, after 20+ years or so. This latter fact indicates that the usual difficulties we have finding the correct remedy result from a combination of repeated allopathic suppression and lives that are distanced from natural foods and rhythms, at least as much as from inherited miasms.
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--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
vipers
Hi,

I'm sure this is true of, but not unique to homoeopaths. You can say the
same of herbalists, nutritionists, psychiatrists, doctors and more. Any
profession has well-trained and badly-trained practitioners and it is
not always the quality of the training or the standard that the
profession professes to hold that is the problem.

My impression of what I read of homoeopathy history is that it began to
thrive in the UK when classes were held so that lay people could
practise it. This moved it out of the control of Royal Society of
Homoeopaths and created a class of experiential practitioners. The use
of it in every day life by every day people regardless of qualification
gives it the groundswell to move into the mainstream. Along with this
use I think we need to accept that it won't be used either perfectly or
even safely all the time, but it will be used and be an important idea
in the majority of people's heads as a method for curing.

The movement of homoeopathy towards professionalism is wonderful, but if
it moves the prescription of homoeopathy to hands of the pure chosen few
(and who gets decide on what is pure?) and out of the hands of those who
begin to learn by experience with their family and friends in need it
will lose a lot of good practitioners.

Gail.

Behalf Of

Hi Soroush,
I know this - you are talking to a homeopath who used to be a rabid
Kentian and believed all he said - including the above.

This was before I retired and started re-studying homeopathy.

Re-studying Hahnemann I found that he had never said any such thing -
in fact he had said the opposite.

So there were 2 views by 2 masters - and I studied the evidence, which
in Germany was pretty easy - having all the evidence of treatment with
combo remedies and remedies chosen by methods different from similarity etc
right around me.

Thus Ihave come to the conclusion that Kent was wrong!

Regards

Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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Hi Soroush,
I suggest you look at the 10 patients' records of v. Boenninghausen on
my homepage www.bar-do.net that I translated into English.

It will be interesting to for me to find out whether they confirm what
you say.

Regards

Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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