HIV-AIDS, PC1 Peter Chappell remedy

[Dave Hartley]

Hi Elham,

A great post... like the basis homeopathy itself.. simple, if not easy.
It is not everyday that I see a post that is so simple in explaining what is
so difficult for some to understand.
I hope that people will read and re-read this until it makes simple sense to
them!

thank you!
Dave Hartley
www.Mr-Notebook.com
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Seattle, WA 425.820.7443
Asheville, NC 828.285.0240

[Dave Hartley]

I think that Ethiopians "with AIDS" would become remarkably better, on the
whole, with good food and sanitation.

I'm looking forward to reading what Peter writes, but I hope that those of
you who think there is a homeopathic panacea for chronic disease will read
and re-read Elham's recent post in this thread until they either understand
there cannot be, or come up with some good questions for more discussion.

regards,
Dave Hartley
www.Mr-Notebook.com
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Seattle, WA 425.820.7443
Asheville, NC 828.285.0240

[Dave Hartley]

AIDS what does the S stand for?
Syndrome. A collection of (theoretically related) symptoms, of generally
unknown or un-pin-pointable causation.

Acquired immune deficiency .. syndrome.. may or may not turn out to be
intimately related to HIV... if it is, there must certainly be some profound
co-factors, since the vast majority of HIV+ do not develop AIDS.

Paraphrase [AIDS] = slow degeneration of health, of "immune function"
Homeopathically, what we could consider a [suppression, waning,
disconnection] of the VF (vital force; innate
health/homeostasis-impetus/mechanism)

Chronic disease? Yes, it sure looks like it from here.

It is thought by many that AIDS and Cancer are "harmonic" developments in
Chronic Disease

Psora TB Cancer (non-venereal)
Sycosis Syphilis AIDS (venereal)

It is not totally unreasonable to think that some grand anti-miasmic remedy
might be statistically indicated in a large portion of undifferentiated
cases .. for instance, if we look in the Repertory under Psora or Sycosis
we find BOLD remedies which might be expected to be helpful in many cases..
surely Sulph. and Thuj. spring to nearly everyone's mind.. and if individual
treatment were impossible, these anti-miasmic polychrests would probably be
better than no remedy in most cases.

regards,

Dave Hartley
www.Mr-Notebook.com
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Seattle, WA 425.820.7443
Asheville, NC 828.285.0240

[Shannon Nelson]

Hi Dave,

I'll argue this point only hesitantly, because I have no delusions of
expertise on the subject! But, the fact that it has a vague name (i.e.
generalities, and ending in "syndrome") is really neither here nor there.
That doesn't mean that it *isn't* a specific, definable disease. (Which
entirely begs the question of its homeopathic treatment, anyway.)

It is only *certain* types or presentations of "immune deficiency" that
could be even momentarily suspect as part of AIDS; e.g. "getting lots of
colds" wouldn't cut it, nor would "catching every bug that passes thru".
The "immune deficiency" of AIDS deals with far deeper levels of resistance,
and altho there are a number of paths it can follow (including no path!),
these are only of a fairly specific small number, as I understand.
Including e.g. the disorders that are *rare* in the non-infected, but orders
of magnitude more common among the HIV-infected. etc., etc.

I was not aware that the majority of HIV+ never develop AIDS. (And what do
you mean by "never"? That's a long time!) My understanding has been that
we're seeing *more* who show the infection even for years without developing
"the disease", and I think that's consistent with the natural "adaptation"
that pathogens of certain types and populations go thru. (I think it is
accepted that HIV is only weakly infective, and that most who are exposed,
will not acquire the infection (esp. if the starting immunity is normal),
but that's a different matter.)

I'm afraid I can't remember now (and don't want to take the time to find the
prior post) why I thought it mattered whether we called AIDS (or anything
else) "chronic" or "acute" or "half-acute", except that an "acquired" miasm
(i.e. something you "caught") could be expected to be (I think) less
overlaid, and tangled-up, and commingled with the patient's entire life,
heredity and etc. (Note I said *less* tangled; I admit that the patient is
certainly part of the picture!). But the HIV situation seemed to me much
more similar to Will's examples, of Lyme's, rabies, etc. (something that was
"caught") than to inborn results of one's ancestors' histories. And
therefore perhaps treatable by a smaller group of remedies (more similar to
treating acutes), compared with treatment of Psora, sycosis, etc.

This is long-winded, sorry...
Shannon
on 11/10/02 8:28 PM, Dave Hartley at dave@localcomputermart.com wrote:

[jdurfeeathome]

In a message dated 11/10/2002 2:26:35 PM Mountain Standard Time,
elham@zyberwayavadh.com writes:
I would challenge that these diseases fully leave the body. Herpes Zoster
affects some 30 to 40 percent of the population at least one time in their
lives. This is merely the chicken pox that is stored in the nerve and comes
out when sufficient stress occurs. So chronic symptoms are present at times
with this disease and it tells us that the body did not eliminate chicken pox
but has managed to suppress it.

If chicken pox and its sequelae can be cured with homeopathy then there is no
reason to not assume that HIV can't be dealt with also. And like chicken pox
or measles, usually a small group of remedies manages to cure the majority of
cases in the early and acute stages.

but >he did not consider these as acute diseases."

Although in general, they are not acute diseases, again a small group of
remedies usually deals with them when acquired in all customary ways except
through the inherited miasm, where the situation and its treatments are far
more complex. I thought that in the initial stages of gonorrhea and syphilis
the diseases are acute. that being the initial weeks. When the acute
condition endures it then becomes classified as chronic. With these two
diseases they become more severely chronic as time goes by affecting the
systems more profoundly, moving more deeply into the body. Since homeopathy
is the only way to cure these diseases in the acute stage, all
unhomeopathically treated syphilis and gonorrhea become chronic.
"Hahnemann was severely persecuted for his discovery of Homeopathy"

Peter Chappell is apparently on the chopping block here, too.

If what he says is true, even in part, that it can help some people, there
are a lot of forces out there that would applaud his demise and the
disappearance of his work.
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