Minutus

As a side bar, and with the intention for a collective benefit, I find it of note that a public reply was found necessary wherein the inference is of a personal nature and therefore with explicit reference to a private communique.

Afterall we all come to the same table with good intentions and miasmatically loaded and constitutionally burdened. Aaannnd our far ranging specie has generated so many different languages for verbal conveyance of thoughts, each with their own cultural biases on top of those of the individual. That therefore it proves to be of greater value to extract from another a more precise clarification of an attempt to share their thoughts and by so doing come to a more common understanding.

You both offer something of value for my reading, while I depart from some of the assertions made.

respectfully, isali

tanya marquette wrote:

I believe that palliation would be the 'response' of the vital force to its new condition. And that in the example offered, the remedy given does suppress function and offers clinical relief.

"Dr. Jeff Feinman" wrote:

I've mused a lot about the palliation/suppression question.
As Jeff says, definition of "suppression" is that the target sxs are
improved, and something "worse" or "deeper" takes their place.

It's worth noting that this same progression (less serious sxs being
replaced by more serious ones) may be simply part of "the natural
progression of the disease"; and in fact, part of the nature/definition of
chronic disease is that *it keeps getting worse*. So we could *expect* that
the thyroid patient *will* develop other, deeper problems as time goes on
(and it's also safe to assume that this is not the *only* area or weakness
or imbalance in the person) -- a good argument for going ahead with the
remedy search! I'm also curious how often thyr. is actually *effective* for
thyroid problems (in the one case where I tried it, effect seemed limited).

I'd love to hear people's positive or negative clinical experiences with any
of the sarcodes.

Best,
Shannon
on 9/7/02 10:23 AM, isali ben-jacob at isali@bellsouth.net wrote:

The original reference was to allopathic supplementation, of which Jeff responded.

I have found that the use of sarcodes offer some parallel considerations to the use of certain herbal remedies as in their 'guiding' function. I have found excellect clinical results with the addition of sarcodes as a complement to herbal compositions. It appears to follow the arnz-schcultz construct.

And specifically to Dx hypothyroid, I have found the addition of a sarcode of thy 6X to act as a tonifier of the thyroid. The issue clinically required careful observation as to the frequecy of application as it definitively caused increased action by the gland, to be separated from the production of the hormone.

I have found also much misdiagnosis of hypothyroid, where the clinical issue had more to do with the hypothalamus-pituitary axis and here too I have found a sarcode presentation of low potency offered significant complement to an herbal composition. Conditions of light headedness, shortness of breath, palpitations, fatigue, insomnia generally, a complexion which is sallow, sometimes with pain in the chest, sometimes with joint pain, tachycardia, forgetfulness, poor memory, reduced appetite, dryness of skin, dryness of the mouth, dryness of the throat, mouth sores, sores that
don't heal readily, tongue which is pale, a pulse which thin and weak. These are general conditions of what we refer to as a deficiency of chi & blood; ie, deficient action and deficient substance for the tissue, with a notable skewing to spleen/cardiac systems. A very appropriate assessment would be an herbal composition which would tonify the chi & blood.with an augmentation to treat the cardiac system. Herbs being food and therefore a tailored dietary intention. The formula ren shen yang yin tang...ginseng decoction to nourish the nutritive chi. I used this approach with a
pt. who was Dx 18 yrs ago as hypothyroid and Tx w/o benefit both synthoid and armour. I didn't feel comfortable with the Dx and upon reassessment determined that the issue was pituitary hypothalamus. The herbal composition offered food for the soma of an intended action and to that I ustilised a sarcode of pituitary and hypothalamus 6X once per day. The result is that the pt. is now asymptomatic and we are now able to address her constitutional condition. The time frame for this was six months with very frequent herbal adjustments to the base formula mentioned.

regards

Robert&Shannon Nelson wrote:

Re this discussion of TV addiction, taking Wendy's postulate of looking at
the internal essence of the addiction as homeopathic to the person's state,
rather than thinking of electricity or magnetic elements, I'm wondering
about the state that watching TV induces (which undoubtedly differs for
different individuals). For many, TV watching induces a state of detached
absorption. It also frequently serves as a pretext for relatively unbridled
eating.

MIND - solitude desires?
GENERALS - eating >?
MIND - Physical exertion

What else?

Interesting discussion!

Rosemary Hyde

Dear List,

Regarding the reference to the thread Addiction, there is one important
thing which is being over looked...it is the "Intensity" of the addiction.
The craving or addiction to cigarettes, is much less than the addiction to
alcohol. One does not get out of senses at least. In case of heroin, the
craving is intense, which forces the patient to do any thing immoral to
meet the requirement. In an educated person, this stage might arrive late
and in patients, who already lack self control, it is the soonest to
arrive, but for certain, it is a MUST for anyone in this addiction, to
arrive sooner or later. In the third world countries, where the rate of
education is shamefully below, say just 15%, this threat is alarmingly
high. This was the thing, which I mentioned in one of mails that the
behavior of a patient living in certain culture is important because as the
patients differ from the other, they also differ in the way they have been
brought up. There are so many reported cases of murders of parents and
brothers simply that they refused to give their patient 50 bucks to buy
some heroine. There have been so many cases where an addict has been
forcing his wife to prostitute if she cannot give some money to satiate the
demand. Lots of divorce cases in the courts, and beating the wives, parents
and anyone who comes in the way...be it any relationship. Seldom heard of a
drunkard beating or killing the kith and kin for money to buy cigarettes or
alcohol. But for the heroin, it is always. Such addicts can never behave
morally in any part of the society, just as a mad man is always a security
risk to all around, so are they. If someone knows that Mr. A is prone to
stealing, or always keeping a dagger to loot someone, who is going to allow
him in the house. So simply loving such patients is no solution. Society
begins respecting such patients gradually, as they improve...not before. It
is universal, one has to prove one's worth to get the respect or love from
the society.These are the patients who do not want to come out of their
WONDERLAND, and if they do not will, who else can. If anyone knows or has
read about the Fedayeen of the East, the followers of the Sheikh Al Jabal,
it was hashish which made them to murder in a cold blooded fashion. Not
alcohol or the demand for cigarette. So my point is that craving of these
patients should not be treated as a simple craving for alcohol. The
craving for heroin has no match and there are so many layers of
disappointments and revenge, hatred and disgust, reciprocally estrangement
from the society and what and what not.

Take care.

Sincerely,

Dear Zaidee,

There is no doubt that heroine addiction drives people to extremes to satisfy the craving/need. However,
I need to disagree with you on the issue of respect. It may be a necessary survival step to refuse an
addict access to your home, but all people deserve human respect. Otherwise we become no different
than they are.

tanya

Jeff,

I am not sure I agree. While the substance is being given the disease can
and often does go to deeper tissues. By the definition you are using,
corticosteroids are not suppression when given for chronic skin problems
because they often return. Yet, I would consider the patient suppressed if
they got a shot of methylprednisone and began to seizure when the eczema
cleared.

be well
Russell Swift, DVM
Classical Homeopath
phone 561-391-5615
email drswift@therightremedy.com
www.therightremedy.com

"Allopaths have protocols, Homeopaths have principles."

Jeff,

I see your point. I just think we have a slightly different understanding of
the concepts. If we assume that the VF creates the condition such as
Hypothyroidism as some defensive maneuver, then by taking that away with HRT
we force the VF to take another defensive posture in a deeper tissue. This
would probably occur faster with the HRT than it would by a natural
progression of the disease process. I see that as suppressive, but again I
can see your understanding as well. I guess I follow Dr. Vijayakar's work on
this issue and I think he would call it suppression as well. I know that not
everyone agrees on these details.

be well
Russell Swift, DVM
Classical Homeopath
phone 561-391-5615
email drswift@therightremedy.com
www.therightremedy.com

"Allopaths have protocols, Homeopaths have principles."
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