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Re: dry dose

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2002 8:29 am
by CindeeG
Lab tests can be a helpful tool.
I'll give you several examples to help explain how I've used them in practice.
A woman who found out her cholesterol and her blood pressure was out of
range, told her Doctor (and her family, who were in favor of the
pharmaceutical drugs) that she wanted to try natural therapies before going
on a medication.
We used Homeopathic remedies according to her case, and alchemically
processed herbs, and a tissue salt. In three months, when she returned to be
retested, the blood tests confirmed that she was doing quite well. This gave
her confidence to continue with homeopathy, appeased the Doc and the family.
She is now an avid Homeopathic study group member. Her levels are very good,
and many of her other symptoms have cleared up as well.
I use an inexpensive saliva home test kit on women before giving them herbs
based on their estro/progest/test levels. They actually test themselves, it
comes back to them and they mail me a copy. Of course, above all, I do a long
case taking to get the proper remedies. I also cheat using some supportives.
My education was in lab sciences, so I actually enjoy getting all of the
tests and watching them change.
I have shocked several colleagues who challenged my practice using only
Homeopathics and allowing them to see the changes. Challenging cases, where
the client has no symptoms, such as Hepatitis C and the like, I can use the
tests to show the difference to the clients. Hope this answers your
questions. You can e-mail me directly for additional info....don't want to
bore the group by going too much off the main subject.

Cindee G.

Re: dry dose

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2002 11:23 am
by vtyekkirala
Hi,
You wrote:
the
with
etc.

If you have no objection could you please send me the 18 page
questionnaire that you send to patients.
TIA and regards,
V.T.Yekkirala.

Re: dry dose

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2002 12:33 pm
by Tanya Marquette
cindee,

what can you say about working hep C?

tanya

Re: dry dose

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2002 12:36 pm
by Tanya Marquette
cindee,

i had the same curiosity to see your questionnaire

tanya

Re: dry dose

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2002 1:23 pm
by gmastra834
Hi Cindee
I am a student of homeopathy and new to this list, I am curious, where do
you buy the saliva test kits, because all that is out there are the kits for
hormone and hiv test, and some of them you have to send your saliva to them
to get tested, warmly Grace
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Re: dry dose

Posted: Sun Aug 04, 2002 6:10 pm
by Rosemary Hyde
Cindee, your statements about using lab tests are very helpful and
informative. Pursuing this line of thinking further, I wonder if you would
be willing to share with us your homeopathic analysis of a couple such
cases, as an opportunity for others to learn from observation how a
homeopath approaches ailments that present primarily through lab tests.
These are important because they represent early stages of what are likely
to become serious disease states, yet the link between the predictive
information in the lab tests and the actual symptom picture may seem tenuous
at best.

Thanks.

Rosemary Hyde

Re: dry dose

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2002 8:31 am
by CindeeG
Hi Grace,
There is a company called Archeus that is next store to my office. They sell
the saliva tests for $59.95, they also have hair analysis and urine tests,
several other ones. Your clients can order them directly from them, take the
test themselves, it comes with a mailer (prepaid), they drop it in a mailbox,
get the results about ten days later. I then have the clients fax or send me
a copy of the results.
They are reworking up their new site with new products so you may have to
email them directly for more info. They will be reopening up in September at
a new location. Very nice people, the owners... I put some of their items on
my site while they are moving, but I would prefer if people went right to
them directly. Their products will be removed from my site as soon as they
move. I like the prescribing end but it ties up my staff with the supplies
etc.
archeus1@aol.com...or 412-818-3414 Adam and Brian

Re: dry dose

Posted: Mon Aug 05, 2002 8:53 am
by CindeeG
In a message dated 8/4/02 12:10:37 PM, rosemaryhyde@mindspring.com writes:

>

Yes, I'll be happy to do that for you. I will try to do it this week. I have
a double shift at the office because I am going out of town, so please bear
with me if it isn't until the weekend. Several of you asked me for my case
profile, and someone posted one with an email address. I will ok this with
the Office manager when I get in on Monday.
Also, I will need to be off of the group between August 22-Sept.1st while I
am away as my access to online will be limited to patients in acute
situations at that time.
Blessings to all of you. Cindee G.

Re: dry dose

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 12:27 am
by Dave Hartley
Hi Russell,

Yes, 1 pellet would be highly suggested, size of pellet not withstanding.

I typically use LM or centessimals in medicinal solution (made from 1 pellet
/pillule) and on rare occasions single pillule dry dose.

It is not that every person is likely to be aggravated by 6-8 pillules, it
is the fact that some small number of individuals have been (will be) and
the notable fact that similia minimus (minimum dose) is one of the
"cornerstones" of Hahnemann's homeopathy.

The least amount of medicine sufficient to effect a cure is the right
amount.

4 times or 8 times the amount is "too much" .. and in some cases will
absolutely create aggravation.
regards,

Dave Hartley
http://www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Santa Cruz, CA (831)423-4284

Re: dry dose

Posted: Tue Aug 06, 2002 12:51 am
by Dr. R. Swift
Dave,

I see your point, I just think it is important to try to keep everyone on
the same page. If this child had been advised to take 6-8 #10 pellets, I
would expect far fewer folks on the list to have a negative reaction to that
suggestion than to a dose of 6-8 #40 pellets which would be equivalent to at
least 30 #10's. One point I have hesitated to bring up but I think I will
for conversation sake, is that Hahnemann and many well known homeopaths
today have said how participating in provings is good for one's vital force.
How do we reconcile this apparent contradiction? How can a proving, which is
taking a large dose of a non homeopathic remedy be good for you, yet getting
a large dose of the wrong remedy from a practitioner in a "treatment"
setting be bad for you?

Now, I know that ostensibly a proving is done on healthy people, yet a very
large percentage of provings show provers having been cured of some symptom.
Obviously, there was something in the prover that was not 100% and therefore
s/he was not "healthy". If we mean relatively healthy, then most of our
patients fall into that category and why should an unintentional proving be
so devastating?
be well

russell swift, dvm