Minutus

Soroush - Clearly, you think you are being clever but your insincerity
is very evident and easy to see through. Your insistence on keeping
things on a low level will only aggravate the situation and prevent
any possibility of any true healing. You are the maintaining cause
that will keep the irritation and dis-ease going for as long as you
continue. And, of course, your efforts appeal to the low minded and
uninformed who wait for the opportunity to come along where they can
once again throw in some barbs of hatred and intolerance at all of
those of "the right" who clearly cannot know anything because their
political playbook says that is not possible. After all, anyone not of
their tribe are all racists, bigots, homophobes, xenophobes, etc. so
they are by definition worthless human beings who do not deserve any
respect or to even be listened to. In fact, such people do not even
deserve to live and that has become the dominant theme of the
professional haters as they preach to all about white privilege and
how all whites should be murdered. For you poor souls who do not
believe that any of this is possible or happening, this is the
official working policy of large numbers of so called "leftists" who
preach these things every day. "Impossible", you say. My God, when
will you wake up and take a look? But do not look at the fake news
sites such as CNN, NBC< Fox, etc.. Look where you will find the truth.

If you want peace, you will find it, Soroush - and friendship and love
as well. If you want to continue playing your games as you have just
done (I await your incredulous response and protestations of
innocence) then you will have war. But those who provoke a war will
never in it. They never have and they never will because war steals
the life from all those who engage in it. You began this latest round
and you and your little haters will continue it with their uninformed
commentary. It will not end until you decide to stop what you are
doing.

If anyone would like to listen to rational, sane, and informative real
news commentary every day, please contact me and I will put you on my
mailing list from which you will receive information on all the things
that have been discussed here in the past several days. Please write
to me at allen73call@gmail.com

I’m interested to know what lies you feel are being told about him? So far below, we have:

- Grope? maybe, but who cares, lots of presidents weren’t perfect either..
- bankrupted? sure, but lots of people do.
- rude (and that list could get MUCH longer)? Sure, but he’s not a politician!
I’m interested to know what lies you feel are being told about him?
Here are some of his words on the subject of his bankruptcies (he has had four, I gather).
http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/22/politics/ ... index.html
You say he supports the United States—but which part of the United States? Its population, kind of not so much… He is accelerating the transfer of wealth *away* from the poor and the vulnerable, and even faster into the pockets of corporations and the already-wealthy. is that *really* in support of the United States, or is it in support of something else.

He is rapidly dismantling all sorts of protections: environmental protections; worker protections; financial protections; the Department of Energy was left to languish (a truly dangerous situation). Do you feel that these charges too are lies?

And if you do believe that these are lies, would you like to see evidence, or would you rather not.
To whatever extent these charges are true (i.e., that he has been rapidly dismantling every sort of protection that he can), is that *really* serving the interests of the United States? Or is it something else.

?

Maria - I appreciate your thoughts as I know that you are a sincere
person. I would just like to point out to you, however, and to anyone
who may not know, that the wars of the United States are, without
exception, started by the deep state military industrial complex. The
wars are the products and plans of the new world order titans - the
Rothschilds, Soros, the Rockefellers,, etc.,, and all of their neo-con
lackeys and puppets in the US government such as every president since
JFK was killed and every candidate for president except for Ron Paul
and maybe one or two others over the past 50 years. Hellary was to
have been the last in this line and she was tasked with starting WW3
between principally, the US, Russia, Iran, China, and a host of
others. The beneficiaries of this war would be the nwo elite who would
ride it out in their already existing underground cities. After that
final great war, the nwo had planned to emerge supreme as they would
be in a place to rule the world through the UN. The nwo is the entity
which many have referred to as the antichrist. The Muslims also
believe in the idea of an antichrist that will rule the world and they
say that the antichrist or "dajjal" will be one eyed. The symbol of
the nwo is a single eye enclosed in a pyramid. Look on the back of the
US one dollar bill if you would like to see it. That is how "in your
face" they are. They were so sure that they were going to win that
they went out of their way to rub their presence in our face.

The US government is extremely corrupt, perhaps as corrupt as every
other government in the world including those of Europe, Africa, and
Latin America. Asia might be getting just as bad although some
countries, like the Philippines, are beginning to fight back. That is
why the deep state turned loose their ISIS fighters there against
Dutarte. Had Donald Trump not won the election, the world would
already be at war. Hellary Clinton said during her campaign that if
she is elected, Russia will have to "pay a price" and Iran "will be
attacked". The fake news media - which is actually a creation of the
CIA and which reports only what they are told to report - see
"Operation Mockingbird" - attacks Trump relentlessly because he is
going to take down the globalist nwo and that cannot be permitted.
Trump has ordered the US Marines to land at CIA headquarters in
Langley, Virginia and to begin the massive arrests that are coming
against the deep state. Has anyone here ever heard of any such news?
Of course not, because you all are relying on the fake new networks
for your information. Hitler and Stalin had similar control over the
news in their day.

Russia is not our enemy. Russia is the hope of the world. It is the
fake news which pumps up hysteria against Russia all at the behest of
the CIA and nwo. There is almost nothing true in what is reported on
those networks. Almost nothing!

There is much more to report on all of this. The US, under the
direction of the CIA/nwo deep state, has become the bully of the
world. It is not the will of the American people to attack other
countries but those attacks are set up by faking some kind of incident
or attack by some country which is then used as a pretext to invade
that country. Remember, Trump inherited a deep state apparatus that
had been set up before he arrived in office and which is working to
destroy his every move. The fake media is working overtime to report
everything he does as wrong because it is their job to do so.

There are several thousand arrests of higher ups in the government due
to begin in the coming days. The Clintons will be among them
Hopefully, obama, and the Bushes will go down as well. These are all
murderous criminals who have committed treason against the US. Old man
Bush spoke openly of installing the nwo in the US and around the world
in a national speech in 1991. Since then, we have had a host of other
politicians including the Clintons and obama speak of the same thing.
JFK was killed because he chose to take them down and he publicly
announced his intentions. The deep state has stirred up hysteria about
Trump since before he was elected and they work to get the unstable
and hateful commie wannabes in the US and around the world to speak of
killing Trump. This is where all the insanity and instability is
coming from. The unstable and hateful are brainwashed. It is the same
deep state that is shooting up the churches and schools as they want
to force martial law with gun confiscation. Notice how the libs talk
of nothing else after any of these acts of violence.

It is time for us to start informing ourselves. The future of our
world depends on our waking up. If we do not, the world will fall
completely to the globalists and very few of us will survive it.

On 11/27/17, Maria Bohle mtbohle@gmail.com [minutus]
wrote:

Maria - I will show you how to answer this and other questions that
are posted by the unaware. These questions should be directed to me.
At this point, however, I am being shunned and they will only address
me indirectly or by taking pot shots from some hiding place. I
understand that because these people are afraid of the truth and if
they acknowledge that I exist then they will have to deal with me.
That does not bother me at all.

Every question that has been asked is based on the lies of the deep
state. It is as simple as that and any person who wants to know about
these things can do some quick research - not on censored Google which
is a CIA property but maybe on "Good Gopher" or some other unbiased
search engine. Do not let anyone intimidate you because that is how
they play the game.

I have repeatedly stated that people should be doing their own
research to learn the truth. Very few will do it, however, as they
believe they already know the truth. That is called being brainwashed.
That is the textbook definition of the term.

On 11/27/17, Shannon Nelson shannonecn135@gmail.com [minutus]
wrote:

Allen

I agree with you about the corruption of the US Government.

The presidents are simple poppets of the Titans.
Soorush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 4:31 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: PotUS change to negative images of remedies
Maria - I appreciate your thoughts as I know that you are a sincere
person. I would just like to point out to you, however, and to anyone
who may not know, that the wars of the United States are, without
exception, started by the deep state military industrial complex. The
wars are the products and plans of the new world order titans - the
Rothschilds, Soros, the Rockefellers,, etc.,, and all of their neo-con
lackeys and puppets in the US government such as every president since
JFK was killed and every candidate for president except for Ron Paul
and maybe one or two others over the past 50 years. Hellary was to
have been the last in this line and she was tasked with starting WW3
between principally, the US, Russia, Iran, China, and a host of
others. The beneficiaries of this war would be the nwo elite who would
ride it out in their already existing underground cities. After that
final great war, the nwo had planned to emerge supreme as they would
be in a place to rule the world through the UN. The nwo is the entity
which many have referred to as the antichrist. The Muslims also
believe in the idea of an antichrist that will rule the world and they
say that the antichrist or "dajjal" will be one eyed. The symbol of
the nwo is a single eye enclosed in a pyramid. Look on the back of the
US one dollar bill if you would like to see it. That is how "in your
face" they are. They were so sure that they were going to win that
they went out of their way to rub their presence in our face.

The US government is extremely corrupt, perhaps as corrupt as every
other government in the world including those of Europe, Africa, and
Latin America. Asia might be getting just as bad although some
countries, like the Philippines, are beginning to fight back. That is
why the deep state turned loose their ISIS fighters there against
Dutarte. Had Donald Trump not won the election, the world would
already be at war. Hellary Clinton said during her campaign that if
she is elected, Russia will have to "pay a price" and Iran "will be
attacked". The fake news media - which is actually a creation of the
CIA and which reports only what they are told to report - see
"Operation Mockingbird" - attacks Trump relentlessly because he is
going to take down the globalist nwo and that cannot be permitted.
Trump has ordered the US Marines to land at CIA headquarters in
Langley, Virginia and to begin the massive arrests that are coming
against the deep state. Has anyone here ever heard of any such news?
Of course not, because you all are relying on the fake new networks
for your information. Hitler and Stalin had similar control over the
news in their day.

Russia is not our enemy. Russia is the hope of the world. It is the
fake news which pumps up hysteria against Russia all at the behest of
the CIA and nwo. There is almost nothing true in what is reported on
those networks. Almost nothing!

There is much more to report on all of this. The US, under the
direction of the CIA/nwo deep state, has become the bully of the
world. It is not the will of the American people to attack other
countries but those attacks are set up by faking some kind of incident
or attack by some country which is then used as a pretext to invade
that country. Remember, Trump inherited a deep state apparatus that
had been set up before he arrived in office and which is working to
destroy his every move. The fake media is working overtime to report
everything he does as wrong because it is their job to do so.

There are several thousand arrests of higher ups in the government due
to begin in the coming days. The Clintons will be among them
Hopefully, obama, and the Bushes will go down as well. These are all
murderous criminals who have committed treason against the US. Old man
Bush spoke openly of installing the nwo in the US and around the world
in a national speech in 1991. Since then, we have had a host of other
politicians including the Clintons and obama speak of the same thing.
JFK was killed because he chose to take them down and he publicly
announced his intentions. The deep state has stirred up hysteria about
Trump since before he was elected and they work to get the unstable
and hateful commie wannabes in the US and around the world to speak of
killing Trump. This is where all the insanity and instability is
coming from. The unstable and hateful are brainwashed. It is the same
deep state that is shooting up the churches and schools as they want
to force martial law with gun confiscation. Notice how the libs talk
of nothing else after any of these acts of violence.

It is time for us to start informing ourselves. The future of our
world depends on our waking up. If we do not, the world will fall
completely to the globalists and very few of us will survive it.

On 11/27/17, Maria Bohle mtbohle@gmail.com [minutus]
> wrote:

Shannon--sexism is rampant in this country but to have a person in the presidency brag about it

tells men they can treat women this way and tells women they are not valuable or respected. This

is his crime. Clinton was beaten up by the GOP because, despite Cinton's given them the NAFTA and

other gifts of assault of the public, they still wanted more than he was willing to give the neo-cons.

But Clinton did not glory in his affair which was consensual. It was the extramarital aspect that got

his ass in trouble, not that he was promoting the groping and sexual abuse of women. Let's get

clear about what you are talking about.
Further he has trashed viciously all people of color over and over again. Every word out of his mouth

is a lie about these groups of people. Since his rise to political stature, the rate of hate crimes against

people of color has risen. He has further opened the doors for militarizing the police against people

of color. If you are a white middle class person living in relative securiy the chanxed are you are not

seeing what this regine is doing to people of color who do not have the luxury of finding peace and security

in this country. One demographic that demonstrates this is the rise of cancer in black men of equal socio-

economic status as white people. Health care is highly racialized in terms of who is getting care, Many

stats that prove this.
And everything else about this administration demonstrates is despicable attitude toward the public at

large. You can begin with the GOP tax fiasco which is noting other than a consolidation of wealth to the

top of the heap at the expense of the general public who is paying for it.
I am sick of this discussion which even entertains any support for what is happening in this country!

t

Tanya, you are misreading me !!!!!
None of the things you are speaking against, from my post below, represents my opinion. I thought the rest of that post would have made that very clear.

What I appreciated in the post I was replying to, was an effort to have an actual discussion. But it IS the nature of discussion, that opposing views have to be tolerated long enough to explore them. AND I feel that exploring, and trying to understand, each others’ views is really, really important.
Maybe this simply is too divisive a topic, and shouldn’t be aired here at all; but, as I said earlier, I think it is SO important that we DO learn to have open and respectful discussions even with people we disagree with. Still, this isn’t necessarily the right place to practice that, so I’m happy to drop it again if that’s what’s needed.

Well, so we have a starting point, Soroush. And we can use that
starting point to solve the problems of the world. As long as we both
tell the truth, we will be sure to get the job done.

Well, all we have to do is to give them enough time and they will
attack their own. No one can possibly ever be pure enough for the
extremist. Just as ISIS and the Taliban torture and murder those who
do not agree exactly with their form of purity, so do the fanatics of
the left seek the destruction of anyone who would stray from the
prescribed orthodoxy of the moment. And notice how the person who was
attacked feels the need to apologize. My advice for that is if you
give a tyrant an inch they will take a mile.

Again, it is very, very easy to rebut everything that this uninformed
writer has thrown out there because there is virtually no truth to any
of it. I might as well be listening to CNN or Fox News for all the
sense it makes. The goal from the beginning has been to find someone
who can substantiate any of these charges (we can start with just one
and work our way up) against our president and provide some sort of
proof - not opinion - about what is being alleged. All of the bogus,
emotional, and politically so correct tirade below can be discounted
in its entirety because it begins nowhere and concludes in the same
place. I just do not believe that everyone is capable of understanding
the idea of providing proof to back up what one says.

Too bad. This is what is bringing our world to its knees.

On 11/27/17, Shannon Nelson shannonecn135@gmail.com [minutus]
wrote:

Proving that all is a lie:

To show you how easy it is, here is an article demonstrating that
these so called hate crimes against black people are just as often
carried out by blacks themselves for whatever bizarre reason they may
have: http://www.dailywire.com/news/23988/her ... stigiacomo
Almost every day, there are stories like this one. On the other hand,
it is true that attacks against whites by blacks have increased
greatly since Trump came on the scene.
https://www.propublica.org/article/alle ... nst-whites
This is not to even mention the crimes against whites that is
happening in South Africa and about which the world is saying
virtually nothing. For the record, I have never, ever heard Donald
Trump say anything which to a normal person could be construed as
being racist. The left, however, maintains that his whole life is
intended to be racist.

Here is actress Susan Sarandon, a hard core liberal, who says that
feminism is "warped" and that Hellary is dangerous.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/23958/act ... =position1

Even the libs are waking up to the dangers of this extremist behavior
which is allowing the nwo to consolidate their power and control of
humanity. Why does the hard core left not allow for any debate of
these issues? They demand orthodoxy and if you do not deliver, you
will be shunned - banned - attacked and made to pay.

Wow. Why would anyone want to live under such a system?

On 11/27/17, Shannon Nelson shannonecn135@gmail.com [minutus]
wrote: