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Re: post surgery
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:01 pm
by Tanya Marquette
Excellent Ellen. Daughter will follow direction to the best she is able. Will be having a nursing service come in the first few days and she
is nervous about taking remedies in front of the nurse due to reportage to the insurance company. So a little tricky. I think keeping a
liquid solution of the arnica next to the bed will be more subtle.
t
Re: post surgery
Posted: Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:37 pm
by Maria Bohle
I bring in remedy bottles and label in large neat print Holy Water. Then make a small note at the bottom of the label - arnica, it whatever it is. Generally in a tiny scribble. Never had a problem.
One holistic MD I knew had several little bottles she brought in for her husband. One labeled ‘contact cleaning solution, etc.
Re: post surgery
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 12:13 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
Not really.
Surgery is a traumatic aggression that sets in motion both the coagulation cascade to prevent exsanguination and the anti-coagulation one to prevent diffuse clotting, so when in healthy balance we will have only closure and clots forming where the injury has occurred and nothing else anywhere else. But injury and clotting are also associated with inflammation, bringing factors needed for control of infection, removal of dead tissues and the start of repair to the place of injury. This phenomenon usually overshoots (this is normal) and causes the sensation of pain, the local inflammation, etc, we have all experienced that. By normalising the reaction and dampening the exaggeration, Arnica reduces the symptoms while allowing the repair process to happen faster in tissues of normal texture (as compared to swollen, engorged and with a sluggish vascular supply), hence the speeding of healing and the comfort sensation.
The single pre-op dose triggers the phenomenon without pushing it in overdrive. Too many doses and everything starts working "in emptiness", hence the disorganised reaction and the complications....compare that to a diabetic injecting the proper dose of insulin before a meal, with the one injecting a larger dose and forgetting to eat.
Better?
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Re: post surgery
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:09 am
by Ellen Madono
Hi Dr. Roz,
Nice explation from a surgeon.
“Not really” was your initial statement. What is the reference?
Ellen
Re: post surgery
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 5:30 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
You asked if the physiology you described was correct....not really...
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
Re: post surgery
Posted: Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:26 pm
by Ellen Madono
Hi Dr. Roz,
I am most grateful for any corrections and your clarifications.
Overreaction of the body to inflammation post surgery seems to be the biggest factor. If Arnica montana is given too early, "emptiness" (referring to overreaction to inflammation) causes bleeding. Is this because one of the repair mechanisms to overreaction has something to do with the state of the blood? I think that the factors in the blood change in reaction to something like inflammation.
Best,
Ellen Madono
Re: post surgery
Posted: Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:08 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
At any time in life there is a balance between coagulation and anti-coagulation factors in the blood, maintaining a state of fluidity at the same time as an ability to clot almost as soon as bleeding is detected to avoid exsanguination.
The same exists with inflammation: some degree of it is necessary to induce the repair system, attract macrophages to areas of infection and destruction, etc,...we have no perception of it as long as it is normal. It is also a normal and healthy phenomenon after trauma: for example, an ankle sprain will create inflammation, pain, swelling forcing the patient to immobilise the joint and not use it; removing that protective mechanism alleviates the discomfort but allows use of the injured joint that will then not heal properly and create chronic disease. That is why immobilisation of joint, proper alignment of a fracture, is essential before or at the same time than the use of remedies in order to provide full healing and return to normal function.
Better?
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"