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Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 12:37 am
by Ellen Madono
Hi Shannon,
I have read the kinds of reports that you mention. Thanks.
I am very wedded to full coverage of the case if possible. But if this poor mother had a chance to just catch her breath, it seems worth a try. I will look into it more.
Best,
Ellen
Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 1:42 am
by Leilanae
Hi again Ellen,
Some have found Tinus Smits Autism protocol helpful. Have you thought about it?
http://www.cease-therapy.com/
There may be someone on this list who has experience with it?
Atb,
Leilanae
autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:55 am
by Ellen Madono
I am basically so conservative, I would never think about protocols. I guess as a last resort. Thank you. I will try to be more flexible.
Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 6:10 pm
by Leilanae
Hi again,
Maybe protocol isn't the correct word to describe his work?????
I do hope you will take a a few minutes to check out his website.
Atb,
Leilanae
Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:27 am
by Ellen Madono
Do you have experience with it?
Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:41 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
It is protocols that are conservative!
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz
Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:37 am
by Ellen Madono
Hi,
But Dr. Roz, you go to organ remedies in certain situations. You have many protocols. Yes, you are balancing multiple consideration which these protocols don't lead to, but from their point of view, your organ remedies are protocols. Can you describe the flexibility that you maintain. What is the difference and why?
Best,
Ellen
Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 1:57 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
To me, to my understanding, the word/concept protocol is something rigid that has to be followed exactly: very useful in research, you do not deviate from it lest you modify the parameters and your results are incorrect.
I have suggestions, guidelines, any of which can and should be modified according to needs, changes, modification in status, whatever.
Organ remedies are not abundant, the choice is kind of limited but then there is still a choice, each one has slightly different indications and possible combinations depending on the clinical status and other variation in pathology or case presentation.
Do I make sense?
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz
Re: autistic heightened visual perception
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 4:51 am
by Elham Mohajer
Dear all
What I have found is protocols are consistently disappointing. But then no harm in looking at them if you just look at them as a set of remedies that might work in some cases when indicated. If you follow a protocol as a protocol you won't get very far.
Also every day someone comes up with a method that fascinates everyone and in the beginning seems to work so well to only disappoint later. The problem with Homoeopathy is even the non-indicated remedy works in many cases. I have tested this a few times given a remedy such as sulphur in a case that was for example completely Lachesis with not just improvement but cure.
That is why it becomes difficult to assess the usefulness of a system unless you have tried it for many years and on a good number of patients. That is why theories like Sehgal and Sankarn that were so popular when they first arrived are almost forgotten now.
If you want to follow a particular system the rule of thumb is if it looks very simple and very boring then it is worth trying it. If it looks very fancy and complex just leave it.
finally there is a section on case taking in the organon - somewhere around 84 to 103 if you look closely at these aphorisms specially at the footnotes of these aphorisms you will gain practical knowledge of what all to look for in a case.
Best regards
Elham