[ARH-Hom] Fever in children

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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: [ARH-Hom] Fever in children

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

I use Ki/Qi/Chi in my practice when it comes to manual medicine; I use it in martial arts, like you and others...but weirdly I cannot really feel it, I only know it through its effects when applied....my limitation...I do not work with beliefs, I work only with knowledge and when I do not know I just say "I do not know", which is always a correct answer...:-)...

Let me go a bit further. Paul described the classical view that the "stronger" medicinal action of the remedy displaces the disease, replaces it then disappears leading to cure; that is what we are told in classes, am I right?

Now, let's go back to burn/scald treated with warm/hot applications: you do not apply anything hotter than what has caused that burn, do you? You apply something similar but different, hence confirming the Law of Similars...it is good enough for most of us as it works, but how does it work?

Applying cold, will numb the nerve endings, leading to relief of pain, but it will eventually aggravate the burn through vasoconstriction; in every thermic injury, there is a centre with maximum destruction, a periphery with reversible changes and a borderline area that can go either way; cold will constrict the vessels in that borderline area, leading to necrosis; warmth will lead to vasodilatation, increased drainage of toxic matter, increased oxygenation and increased nutrition, leading to repair of that area, ending with a more limited damage or even no destroyed tissues...that is the physiology underlying the Law of Similar in the cases of burns and scalds, and it explains also very well why doing that can increase the pain sensation as the nerve endings are also stimulated and send the pain signal to the brain. Every time I have to redo my First Aid Certification, I have a malignant pleasure explaining that to the class and see the inner furore of the instructor...ha ha ha...

This type of mechanism of action of the Law of Similars does exist for each and every situation. Because I have no access to Physics Labs, I cannot test my generalised hypothesis about clathrates, receptors, etc,...so I am stuck right now.

Makes better sense?

Joe.
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Ellen Madono
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Re: [ARH-Hom] Fever in children

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Total sense.

Fever does not exactly seem to work like burn damage control and healing. You can cool to a limited extent. Then, with homeopathy you get into specific remedies. The longer you wait, the more the potential Rx increase in number and the more difficult the choice becomes. The physiology is internal, so it is more complex?
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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To a certain extent it is more complex, but it is also very similar.

As I wrote earlier, the problem with prolonged high temperature is the potential for denaturation of enzymes and irreversible heat-induced damage to systems that are meant to work within a narrow range of temperatures. What is the best system, non-medicinal, to bring the fever down to safe range? a tepid bath, starting with comfortably warm and adding cold water until nice, but not cold; then the law of physics enters into play and heat goes from the highest level (the patient) to the lower level (the bath).

At the same time, what is the general "instinct"? go to bed with plenty of covers and hot drinks as a non-specific generality...that is where you find the interesting modalities that directs us to specific remedies: cold but does not want to be covered, hot and shivering but cuddles the heather, and so on.

Here again we have the physiology of maintaining enzymes and biochemical reactions working more intensely at a higher temperature to accelerate healing and dropping the temperature when it is too high and might create damage (unfortunately often a bit late).

Rewriting materia medica and provings as seen through the lens of chemistry and physiology....oh boy, another book coming up, when will I stop, when will I stop.....;-)8-):-$...

Joe.
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Ellen Madono
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Re: [ARH-Hom] Fever in children

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When you write that book, I am buying it.
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Soroush Ebrahimi
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Re: [ARH-Hom] Fever in children

Post by Soroush Ebrahimi »

What is the difference between an alive and a dead body?

What does the live body lost to become dead?

What has happened to that clever management?
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And how does it happen?

I do not understand at all the notions of "vital force", "indwelling spirit". It does not mean anything to me; those are 19th century terms that were the best "explanation" possible at the time but I cannot fit them in my understanding (which could still be incorrect BTW) of biochemistry, physiology, physics, etc,....

It does not mean that I cannot practice successfully without that knowledge, but I have an itch...

Joe.

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pb000014
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Re: [ARH-Hom] Fever in children

Post by pb000014 »

Hi Joe,

OK. I think I see where you are coming from. Spirit and vital force are not concepts you can relate to in a 21st century frame of reference.
Correct?

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Vicki Satta
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We hope you NEVER stop Joe!!
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: [ARH-Hom] Fever in children

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Yessssss...I am rich!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: [ARH-Hom] Fever in children

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

Great question!

I will have the answer the day I die, which is why I want to die in full consciousness to learn my last lesson.

I promise I will send an email to the group as soon as it happens...

Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz


Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: [ARH-Hom] Fever in children

Post by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD »

Correct.

To me those are philosophical concepts that in any case each person has a different, individual experience of. It is a personal relationship and a personal experience.

The closest comparison would be how *I* see Karma, reincarnation, after earthly death, a.s.o... I allegedly *know* what I am talking about, I can speak about it but I cannot share the experience and demonstrate it....and inevitably we arrive at a dead end where we use the same words but not the same concepts.

Nothing wrong with that except that our progress in the knowledge and real time practice becomes stalled.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"

www.naturamedica.co.nz


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