Re: Blood Thinners and Phos
Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 2:16 pm
Several points I'd like to make regarding this thread:
1) The newer blood thinners are to be avoided, shunned, deep-sixed. Costly, no advantages except that they free one from periodic testing (meaning this is a matter of convenience, not of health), and, as has been pointed out, they cannot be antidoted, unlike coumadin. Having once tried to stop bleeding from an accident in a friend taking coumadin -- no Vit. K on hand -- I can only imagine how horrendously difficult this would be in someone on Eliquis!
2) There seems to be a lot of a-fib out there... What's going on? Any theories as to the seemingly increased prevalence? It was suggested to my husband that people who exerted themselves strongly in their teens (he was a paratrooper at a very early age) are at risk of developing a-fib later in life. Makes me wonder about all these little athletes.
3) The other night I was called out on an emergency for an acquaintance who hasn't been able to eat for three weeks. She's elderly and was getting very weak and panicky. Turns out this started after she'd been given an A/B for a dental abscess (azithromycin). Of course, she'd been to her doc and the hospital, neither of which could find anything "wrong" with her. So... they gave her an antidepressant, which made things even worse. Why the hell would they treat an acute problem with a chronic med and why couldn't they see the causation? (A few doses of Carbo-v. set her right.) This isn't mere caution; this is incompetence. And in the case of Eliquis I'd call it criminal negligence: how can you give a potentially life-threatening drug when you lack the ability to counter its effects?
Dale
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1) The newer blood thinners are to be avoided, shunned, deep-sixed. Costly, no advantages except that they free one from periodic testing (meaning this is a matter of convenience, not of health), and, as has been pointed out, they cannot be antidoted, unlike coumadin. Having once tried to stop bleeding from an accident in a friend taking coumadin -- no Vit. K on hand -- I can only imagine how horrendously difficult this would be in someone on Eliquis!
2) There seems to be a lot of a-fib out there... What's going on? Any theories as to the seemingly increased prevalence? It was suggested to my husband that people who exerted themselves strongly in their teens (he was a paratrooper at a very early age) are at risk of developing a-fib later in life. Makes me wonder about all these little athletes.
3) The other night I was called out on an emergency for an acquaintance who hasn't been able to eat for three weeks. She's elderly and was getting very weak and panicky. Turns out this started after she'd been given an A/B for a dental abscess (azithromycin). Of course, she'd been to her doc and the hospital, neither of which could find anything "wrong" with her. So... they gave her an antidepressant, which made things even worse. Why the hell would they treat an acute problem with a chronic med and why couldn't they see the causation? (A few doses of Carbo-v. set her right.) This isn't mere caution; this is incompetence. And in the case of Eliquis I'd call it criminal negligence: how can you give a potentially life-threatening drug when you lack the ability to counter its effects?
Dale
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