Rabies Case

[Maria Bohle]

This person was bit by an animal with rabies and tested positive for rabies about 4 years ago.

He is exhibiting Lyssin symptoms.

I want to look at Rabies as an aquired miasm. If this patient had contracted Gonnorhea and was exhibiting Medorrhinum symptoms how would we treat that person? High doses of Med? or would we try to eliminate the symptoms first?

Would it be safe for me to administer a 10M of Lyssin?

I have a clear cut case with symptoms that showed up in the provings,

What are your thoughts?

Maria

[Maria Bohle]

I have given this person bioplasma, the patient calls them his Gatoraid pills.

I will see if he has been taking them.

thanks,

[Maria Bohle]

I think his using Lyssin years back helped a lot, we have two 'hits' or potential etiologies,
the rabid bite as the first etiology and the rabies vaccine as the second etiology. Do not know how to unravel these two miasms.

he did rally when I gave him the rabies vaccine in potency about 3 years ago, perhaps he should have another dose of that.

I do not have a proving on the rabies vaccine - does anyone have access to one.

BTW, he did not react to the 30C potency, but did react nicely to the 200C - maybe I will dig that out and use it again as a nosode.

Maria

[Shannon Nelson]

I thought you said he had tested positive for rabies -- are you pretty sure it's a medicinal reaction, not the disease?
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I think his using Lyssin years back helped a lot, we have two 'hits' or potential etiologies,
the rabid bite as the first etiology and the rabies vaccine as the second etiology. Do not know how to unravel these two miasms.

he did rally when I gave him the rabies vaccine in potency about 3 years ago, perhaps he should have another dose of that.

I do not have a proving on the rabies vaccine - does anyone have access to one.

BTW, he did not react to the 30C potency, but did react nicely to the 200C - maybe I will dig that out and use it again as a nosode.

Maria

[Sandeep Saluja]

Which test?

[Sherill]

Is this what you were thinking about Shannon?
From referenceWorks:
[agave-americana by Anschutz]

(In El Siglo Medico, 1890, Dr. Fernandez Avila reports the case of a boy, age 8, who had been beaten by a supposedly mad dog on Feb. 18. The wound healed up, but on July 7th the boy developed all the symptoms of rabies and on the 17th was so violent that he had to be tied and had not tasted food for seventy-two hours. As all remedies failed to produce any effect, the doctor, having read that Agave Americana was efficacious in such cases, and having none of the tincture at hand, gave the boy a piece of the plant itself which he greedily ate; it was given to him as long as he would take it. On the 25th his symptoms had all abated and he was dismissed cured.)
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There's also a plant that has produced at least one cure of developed rabies. Does anyone find or remember? I read it years ago in ReferenceWorks, but do not have my materials with me to look it up.
I think it was agave, eating the whole leaves. Years back I was search to find evidence of rabies cures by any means. A depressing effort.
Definitely worth finding the article at least... Someone with RefWorks, search rabies and it should come up? Maybe the plant was agave?
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[Maria Bohle]

He went to his local allopathic hospital and received confirmation he had tested positive for rabies.

Note the animal that bit him had been examined and rabies was confirmed there.

Maria

[Maria Bohle]

Time line:
The bite of a rabid animal happened about 4 years ago.
He received the rabies vaccine or antidote shortly after the animal that bit him tested positive for rabies. He received Something like 64 shots in his hand and between his fingers.

Hands hurt and started turning a painful numbness. I gave him both lyssin and the rabies vaccine.

This inability to eat came up before Christmas and is continuing. He has lost over 25 lbs or more since then.

Nausea. Vomits more water than he takes in, said it is yellow and foamy.
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[Shannon Nelson]

That's it, thank you! I have never read any such thing anywhere else, and would love to know whether it has been tried any other time. I also dont know what the homeopathic picture of agave is.
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[Jean Doherty]

Found this,, Jean
I. Agave Americana or Maguey. - [Dr. Perin, U.S.A., stationed at Fort McIntosh, in Texas, having many cases of scurvy to treat, and finding the usual allopathic routine ineffectual, was led to make inquiry as to the domestic remedies in use among the natives. Among others, his attention was called to the Agave Americana or American Aloe, and he reports to the Surgeon General the following cases in which it was the drug relied on. We extract from the N.Y. Jour. Med.:]
Private Turby, of company "G" 1st U.S. Infantry, was admitted into hospital March 25th, in the following state: Countenance pale and dejected; gums swollen and bleeding; left leg, from ankle joint to groin, covered with dark purple blotches; leg swollen, painful, and of stony hardness; pulse small, feeble; appetite poor; bowels constipated.
He was placed upon lime juice, diluted and sweetened, so as to make an agreeable drink, in as large quantities as his stomach would bear; diet generous as could be procured, consisting of fresh meat, milk, eggs, etc.; vegetables could not be procured.
April 11th. His condition was but slightly improved; he was then placed upon the expressed juice of the maguey, in doses of three times daily; same diet continued.
April 17th. Countenance no longer dejected, but bright and cheerful; purple spot almost entirely disappeared; arose from his bed and walked across the hospital unassisted; medicine continued.
May 4th. So much improved as to be able to return to his company quarters, where he is accordingly sent; medicine continued.
May 7th. Almost entirely well; continued medicine.
Private Hood, "G," Company, 1st U.S. Infantry, was admitted into hospital April 10th. His general condition did not differ much from Private Turby's. He had been on the sick report for eight days; had been taking citric acid drinks, but grew gradually worse up to the time of his admission, when he was placed upon lime juice until the 13th, at which time no perceptible change had taken place. On that date he commenced the use of the expressed juice of the maguey; same diet as the case above described.
April 21st. General state so much improved that he was sent to his company quarters.
May 22nd Well; returned to duty.
Eleven cases, all milder in form than the two just related, were continued upon the lime juice; diet the same. On the 21st April they exhibited evidences of improvement, but it was nothing when compared with the cases under the use of the maguey.
Seven cases were under treatment during the same time, making use of citric acid. On the 21st of April no one had improved, and three were growing worse.
At this time so convinced was I of the great superiority of the maguey over either of the other remedies employed that I determined to place all the patients upon that medicine. The result has proved exceedingly gratifying; every case has improved rapidly from that date. The countenance so universally dejected and despairing in the patients affected with scurvy, is brightened up by contentment and hope in two days from the time of its introduction; the most marked evidences of improvement were observable at every successive visit. From observing the effects of the maguey in the cases which have occurred in this command, I am compelled to place it far above that remedy which, till now, has stood above every other-the lime juice.
This no doubt will appear strong language, but further experience will verify it.
The juice of the maguey contains a large amount of vegetable and saccharine matter, and of itself is sufficiently nutritious to sustain a patient for days.
This succulent plant grows indigenous in most parts of the State, and, if I am correctly informed, in New Mexico and California. In Mexico it is well-known as the plant from which they manufacture their favorite drink, the "Pulque," and grows in greater abundance. As it delights in a dry sandy soil, it can be cultivated where nothing but the cactus will grow; for this reason, it will be found invaluable to the army at many of the western posts, where vegetables cannot be procured.
The manner in which it is used is as follows: Viz., The leaves are cut off close to the root, they are placed in hot ashes until thoroughly cooked, when they are removed, and the juice expressed from them. The expressed juice is then strained, and may be used thus, or may be sweetened.
It may be given in doses of? to? three times daily.
It is not agreeable to take, and in every instance it has proved to agree well with the stomach and bowels.
After the leaves have been cooked, the cortical portion near the root may be removed, and the white internal portion may be eaten; it appears to be wholesome and nutritious food. I have seen muleteers use it in this way, and they seem to be very fond of it. I have been informed, upon good authority, that several tribes of Indians in New Mexico make use of it in the same manner. The use of the leaf in this way, I believe, will ward off most effectually incipient scorbutus.
(In El Siglo Medico, 1890, Dr. Fernandez Avila reports the case of a boy, age 8, who had been beaten by a supposedly mad dog on Feb. 18. The wound healed up, but on July 7th the boy developed all the symptoms of rabies and on the 17th was so violent that he had to be tied and had not tasted food for seventy-two hours. As all remedies failed to produce any effect, the doctor, having read that Agave Americana was efficacious in such cases, and having none of the tincture at hand, gave the boy a piece of the plant itself which he greedily ate; it was given to him as long as he would take it. On the 25th his symptoms had all abated and he was dismissed cured.)