History of Homeopathy - more on Decline of Homeopathy in US

[Maria Bohle]

Shannon you are correct, there is no reason to believe a patient will follow a plan. But, I do think this discussion is pertinent to us as practitioners. Nutritional deficiencies, eating habits and diseases are quite within our treatment of patients. If for no better reason than it may show us where to look for a remedy (for instance an inability to eat onions, desires fats, etc)
Cravings and aversions are very much factors in what we do.

This discussion on dietary topics, and food ideas I found very helpful in understanding both the theory, knowledge and even prejudices of different eating styles, habits and belief's..

I am a type A (O) Rh negative blood, I am happy most of the time being a vegetarian, however that recessive O rears it's head periodically (maybe monthly) and when it does I actually crave meat, a lot of it, Then I can go a relatively long time without eating and without missing meats, actually I can even get adverse meat for a period of time after having it.

Humans have both learned and inherited behaviors and we must honor their decisions. That does not mean we cannot help them, but our help must be done on their own time line.

I have an MS patient who was eating a greatly reduced (low fat) diet. I told her to eat like her mother and ancestors ate (healthy people who lived a reasonably long life), two things happened at the same time, first I had given her a good remedy, and second she started eating her mother's food and said she felt fantastic. Mother is a first generation in this country and cooks with a much higher fat content diet - and no it was not all the remedy as she slipped back a bit a couple of days after her test dose, so she was just learning her remedy redose pace, but the ms sx never really returned and the adjusted diet is sustaining her much better.

Thank you everyone for this discussion. I enjoyed it and learned a lot.

Maria
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[Fran Sheffield]

This is so true. It seems in my practice that those who least follow through with treatment are those who have been given much for little - ie., lowered fees or work done for free.

It also seems to be a pattern that the truly impoverished will either not tell you or scrape together everything they can for an appointment while those who say they are financially strapped and ask for a discounted service are driving nice cars, doing other therapies as well, and off on holidays.

These comments are generalisations but is sometimes really difficult to uncover who genuinely needs the reduced or no-fee service. The truly poor will often say nothing.

Fran.

[Fran Sheffield]

See if you can track down and watch a UK series called Overeaters Anonymous which were really programs about people with dysfunctional eating patterns - they clearly showed that there is something more than diet that works to maintain health. The therapists in the programs were working with people who had literally eaten nothing more than potato crisps with cheese grated on top for years yet their were in remarkably good health when they should have at least had scurvy.

Not all could survive a diet like that but some do. Obviously the vital force is capable of some amazing things.

Another point of interest is that those working with impoverished communities in India report that tissue salts alone create amazing differences in people with nutritional deficiencies even when the diet cannot be changed or improved.

It's all interesting and food is only part of the picture.

Fran.
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[Irene de Villiers]

There is no debate from homeopaths - we all know diet matters:-)
The argument is form your good self and a few who are not homeopaths.
There are exremists in every area of life, it does not make the main population extreme, by definition:-)
....Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Tanya Marquette]

Yes and No. I know too many people who have practically nothing and have no problem saying so and asking for help.
In the woman’s movement it was a long battle about how different class issues could/should be accommodated. It became
the norm to always include more if you can/less if you can’t policy to all events and services.

OTH today I find many people will not value paying for services when they have medical insurance—even it cannot provide cure,
they see it as free and that becomes their entitlement.

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[Irene de Villiers]

No that is not the limiting factor in the homeopathy profession.
The profession FIRST needs laws that allow it to function at all - that is what limits homeopathy in USA.
Laws lobbied into place by AVMA, AMA, BIg Pharma, and Junkfood manufacturers. THOSe are the organizations who put billions of dollars into getting rid of competition from homeopaths.

Oddly the junkfood folks are acually afraid of homeopathy as it takes away their busiess - THEY know homeopaths get rid of junkfood use, even if you do not:-)
Have you ever read the ingredients on any "Hills Science Diet" or "Iams" pet food for example?
THEY know homeopaths get rid of junkfood for pets too.

Having permission to have a profession in the first place - THAT comes before customers.
The customers are there.

The few homeopaths who exist, are being prevented by draconian laws, from doing what they are trained and willing and able to do with customers who are present and wanting help.
Sure but that is not the problem here. I spend nealy all my time helping people for no charge becasue WA law says I can only help gratuitously. There is no lack of folks wanting help. They crave help - and their animals make no bones about how well homeopathy helps them (always starting with changing to a proper diet) - but there are not enough vethoms to go around.
Except that does not occur. The world has gone mad, but not the way you assume.
You are looking to blame others for this?
Or do you desire to self-destruct?
I suggest:
Get real about WANTING to heal.
Then:
Find a homeopath who understands your mental attitudes
.....and the remedy approach you get will help you past them.

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

Becasue for starters, not everyone here is a homeopath:-)

...Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

You are talking down again. Fran must have made a good point:-)
Since nobody here knows if she saw a qualified homeopath or anything else about her situation. we are not in a position to suggest why she did not get what you wanted her to get.
You stand alone apparently.
It sounds like this is your complaint for your own self.
FINDING the right diet to stay on is more relevant than struggling to stay on it. The right diet helps you feel well and triggers feedback to get more of that.
A healthy diet is not about avoiding things, that is too negative and will never work.
A healthy diet is about enjoying things. If your healthy diet is not enjoyable enough to look forward to, then it is not the right diet for you.

It takes time and effort to find what you enjoy that is good for you.
A good starting place is KNOWING what is good for you - and then you can select favorites from that very long list and go for them.
The idea is to think about food when you want to think about food, but choose yummy stuff from the good list, it is plenty long enough.
It is a process, do not expect your diet to change overnight. YOu eed to practice using your yummy foods on the good list. And "grow" that list with experiments and new fun combinations.

A homeopath can help. YOUR inherited food likes and dislikes are fixed in your genes. For example as we just saw, Lycopodium types like acids and spices and are curious - it implies a SUITABLE direction of experimentation for that type. YOUR type will also have a suitable direction.

You can start it without a homeopath. There is a great deal of research on what foods go with certain genetic catgories or genotypes of person and with certain blood types. So you can check out the "Eat Right 4 Your Type Encyclopedia" to get lists of great foods for YOUR health - and the "Genotype Diet" for starter ideas - both by Dr Peter D'Adamo who did the research - and that will help get you started looking forward to eating well for you, better than random ones.

It's a process (to find your idividual enjoyable eating approach) - and if you want to stop enjoying headaches etc - you will START the process.

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Roger B]

Bless your heart for that.

Roger Bird
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 09:27:43 +1300
Subject: Re: [Minutus] History of Homeopathy - more on Decline of Homeopathy in US
For a long time now, I have taken the habit of starting the treatment by setting the nutrition right, either before any other prescription if it is really terrible or at the same time.
It allows me to eliminate complaints, symptoms and signs that are related to the nutrition but do not really belong to the patient, unless of course there is a situation like bulimia or uncontrollable craving.
Really simplifies the repertorisation, the choice of rubrics and produces very accurate remedies.

Booklet about that in writing now.

Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz
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[Roger B]

I want to hear it from all of the real homeopaths here that low carbs and zero wheat is the way to go.

In truth, after I got serious about paleo and traditional diets, I realized that there was a LOT of individual experimentation that I had to do. The ultimate idea of paleo is that we should fit our diets and lifestyle to our genes, and there is a great deal of variation in our genes (and our epigenes).

Roger
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 15:19:27 -0800
Subject: Re: [Minutus] History of Homeopathy - more on Decline of Homeopathy in US
There is no debate from homeopaths - we all know diet matters:-)
The argument is form your good self and a few who are not homeopaths.
There are exremists in every area of life, it does not make the main population extreme, by definition:-)
....Irene