High blood pressure is probably a result of eating too many carbs and becoming insulin resistant.
Roger
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From: gracewellness@atlanticbb.net
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 14:52:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [Minutus] What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Garlic capsules don't work. The garlic must be raw and fresh. If you can't chew it, cut it very fine and swallow it during the meal.
Rena
What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
It is a mistake to say that if something does not work for me that it won't work for other people. It is also a mistake to say that if something works for 56% of the tested sample that it works for everyone. A scientific study, for me, only tells me that it might work for me. And if someone says that it did not work for them it only tells me that it might not work for me.
I tell everyone that turmeric is great only because it worked for me. That does not necessarily mean that it will work for everyone else. I tried turmeric because Sayer Ji said that there were all of these scientific studies that show that it works. But I did not believe it until it worked for me.
Roger
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: furryboots@icehouse.net
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 04:21:49 -0700
Subject: Re: [Minutus] What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Scientific studies show that garlic tablets work just fine actually.
Here is one ref:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24035939
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
I tell everyone that turmeric is great only because it worked for me. That does not necessarily mean that it will work for everyone else. I tried turmeric because Sayer Ji said that there were all of these scientific studies that show that it works. But I did not believe it until it worked for me.
Roger
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: furryboots@icehouse.net
Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 04:21:49 -0700
Subject: Re: [Minutus] What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Scientific studies show that garlic tablets work just fine actually.
Here is one ref:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24035939
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
As usual, it is individual.
Some patients will still have pretty elastic arteries and they can be relaxed, lowering the measured BP. Others will have stiffer tissues, therefore the cuff measurement will be high because of the lack of compressibility of the "pipe" while the intra-arterial pressure is normal....they then get BP medication and become dizzy...it is not a real side-effect of their drugs, it is drug-induced hypotension....and no, indeed, most GPs do not get it.
With homeopathy and most herbs, the regulation will be at the level of the real BP, the intra-arterial one, so the measured one, with a cuff, might still be considered as high.
There are ways to evaluate (but not 100% correct) the elasticity of arteries:
- palpate the radial artery as if taking the pulse, but focus on what you feel: is it a stiff tube or is it elastic?
- palpate the radial artery and compare the strength of the pulse with that in an artery in the foot (DP or TP), or even better, if you can, measure the BP in the leg; if there is a notable difference, there is probably some stiffness of the vessel, unless there is an obstruction in the aorta, the iliacs or the femoral arteries.
- if you know how to use an ophthalmoscope/fundoscope, you can see the retinal arteries; look up in a textbook to see the meaning of the different pictures.
The breathing technique is the basis of biofeedback and is also a sign of arterial elasticity. I actually had fun with that, driving the anaesthesiologist bonkers at the pre-op consultation: I first tensed up and raised my BP higher than my usual norm, then told her it was way too high for me, could she measure again, having a few relaxing breaths and dropping it by almost 30 points....she did not get it but it was hilarious to see her face...
Another test for elasticity is to measure the BP before and after exercise: it should drop with the vasodilatation induced by the exercise.
So, if any of those tests is able to bring the BP down, the arteries are elastic and it is the tension/stress/constriction that should be addressed, as spikes of high BP (anger, bad news,....) can still burst a vessel.
If the arteries are stiff, it becomes way more difficult as it is almost impossible to measure the real BP non-invasively and they are more prone to bursting with sudden variations of BP. The work here should concentrate on restoring some degree of elasticity to the tissues in general. Lowering the numbers is less important than following the symptoms and relating them to the level of BP.
Hope this helps.
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz
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Some patients will still have pretty elastic arteries and they can be relaxed, lowering the measured BP. Others will have stiffer tissues, therefore the cuff measurement will be high because of the lack of compressibility of the "pipe" while the intra-arterial pressure is normal....they then get BP medication and become dizzy...it is not a real side-effect of their drugs, it is drug-induced hypotension....and no, indeed, most GPs do not get it.
With homeopathy and most herbs, the regulation will be at the level of the real BP, the intra-arterial one, so the measured one, with a cuff, might still be considered as high.
There are ways to evaluate (but not 100% correct) the elasticity of arteries:
- palpate the radial artery as if taking the pulse, but focus on what you feel: is it a stiff tube or is it elastic?
- palpate the radial artery and compare the strength of the pulse with that in an artery in the foot (DP or TP), or even better, if you can, measure the BP in the leg; if there is a notable difference, there is probably some stiffness of the vessel, unless there is an obstruction in the aorta, the iliacs or the femoral arteries.
- if you know how to use an ophthalmoscope/fundoscope, you can see the retinal arteries; look up in a textbook to see the meaning of the different pictures.
The breathing technique is the basis of biofeedback and is also a sign of arterial elasticity. I actually had fun with that, driving the anaesthesiologist bonkers at the pre-op consultation: I first tensed up and raised my BP higher than my usual norm, then told her it was way too high for me, could she measure again, having a few relaxing breaths and dropping it by almost 30 points....she did not get it but it was hilarious to see her face...
Another test for elasticity is to measure the BP before and after exercise: it should drop with the vasodilatation induced by the exercise.
So, if any of those tests is able to bring the BP down, the arteries are elastic and it is the tension/stress/constriction that should be addressed, as spikes of high BP (anger, bad news,....) can still burst a vessel.
If the arteries are stiff, it becomes way more difficult as it is almost impossible to measure the real BP non-invasively and they are more prone to bursting with sudden variations of BP. The work here should concentrate on restoring some degree of elasticity to the tissues in general. Lowering the numbers is less important than following the symptoms and relating them to the level of BP.
Hope this helps.
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz
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Irene de Villiers
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Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Called "white-coat blood pressure". It is that way in animals as well. Fear of vets will shoot it up.
For a cat with aldosteronism, I had the owner get a correct-size cuff (makes a big diff in cats) and do it at home, to get some measure of how the remedy, plus Vit E and fish oil (for flexible vessel walls) was working.
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
For a cat with aldosteronism, I had the owner get a correct-size cuff (makes a big diff in cats) and do it at home, to get some measure of how the remedy, plus Vit E and fish oil (for flexible vessel walls) was working.
Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
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Maria Bohle
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Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Thank You Dr. Roz,
Your comments on hypertension and what to look for, made more sense than anything I have read to date. I have found it just so frustrating to try to talk to most of the allopathic medical practitioners. Occasionally we come across a doctor who is willing to listen, but today's 'rules and regulations' for allopathic medical practice seem to be stacked against anything that does not follow the guiding procedures required by insurance companies who will not pay the bills for tests or procedures that are not mainstream.
Obamacare is supposed to provide medical treatment and services to a lot of people who cannot afford it. However it is beginning to look like that is being done on 'evidence based medical terms' only. Take a blood pressure and put them on meds if it is high, I don't even think our doctors are allowed to schedule tests to look any deeper as it will not be covered.
Someday Dr. Roz, please consider writing a book on how you practice. Navigating between evidenced based medicine and the CAM understanding has to be an art.
Warmly, Maria
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Your comments on hypertension and what to look for, made more sense than anything I have read to date. I have found it just so frustrating to try to talk to most of the allopathic medical practitioners. Occasionally we come across a doctor who is willing to listen, but today's 'rules and regulations' for allopathic medical practice seem to be stacked against anything that does not follow the guiding procedures required by insurance companies who will not pay the bills for tests or procedures that are not mainstream.
Obamacare is supposed to provide medical treatment and services to a lot of people who cannot afford it. However it is beginning to look like that is being done on 'evidence based medical terms' only. Take a blood pressure and put them on meds if it is high, I don't even think our doctors are allowed to schedule tests to look any deeper as it will not be covered.
Someday Dr. Roz, please consider writing a book on how you practice. Navigating between evidenced based medicine and the CAM understanding has to be an art.
Warmly, Maria
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Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
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Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
No need for a book! It is simple.
1. Follow your patient, no preconception
2. Know the physiology and pathophysiology
3. Learn to do differential diagnosis using different approaches simultaneously: conventional, TCM, Ayurvedic, osteopathic, energetic, etc,...
4. Chose and apply the best treatment available for the individual patient at that time, in other words "what needs to be treated and what is best to do that at that time and place".
And that is all.
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz
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1. Follow your patient, no preconception
2. Know the physiology and pathophysiology
3. Learn to do differential diagnosis using different approaches simultaneously: conventional, TCM, Ayurvedic, osteopathic, energetic, etc,...
4. Chose and apply the best treatment available for the individual patient at that time, in other words "what needs to be treated and what is best to do that at that time and place".
And that is all.
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz
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