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Re: Question for homoeopaths

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 9:59 pm
by John R. Benneth
In a message dated 12/1/2013 5:49:04 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, coventrybird@gmail.com writes:
Hi Robin . .
Good question, might I take a stab at it?
I'd say the answer is "not exactly" . . the difference between homeoepathy and homeopathy illustrates . . the difference between dissimilar (allopathy). same (homeopathy) and similar (homoeopathy) are explained with
1, Dissimilar simply masks it and causes discordance, a new disease . .
2. Same simply adds to it, concordant, as more of the same disease . . but
3. Similar actually interrupts the wave form enrgetically . . and if loud enough, will shatter the molecular matrix materially. Similar is like but not same. Like the difference between two pianos playing the same note but out of tune with one another. The result is that the vibratory wave forms of the artificial and the natural disease are so close that the artificial cancels out the natural disease and then, being artifical, fades away if not repeateed too often, or LOL, given with too high a potency!
Medical similitude, homoeopathy, arose out of the observation that similar natural disease will not abide in the same body at the same time, and out of this arose the idea of using various animal, mineral, plant, and mycelium substances, radiant sources and psychiatric methods (Liz) that produce a similar, but never completely same symptom set artificially, to induce cure..
It's a very subtle concept which mainstream medicine has as yet failed to grasp, don't you think?
Benneth ;-)

Re: Question for homoeopaths

Posted: Mon Dec 02, 2013 10:22 pm
by John R. Benneth
In a message dated 12/1/2013 9:47:22 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, lightspirals@yahoo.com writes:
Hi Liz . .
True enough, and I'll guess we'll never know for sure. But it's fun to speculate. The reason I argue for Lyc. is that for the symptoms I'm able to rep., Lyc wins the horse race hands down . . but Sil. does comes in second and he did have one of those large Sil. heads.
And I forgot to say, according to Clarke, most of Lyc.s aggs are from wine and coffee, and Hahn was on a jihad against coffee . . definite tip off of Lyc.!
LOL!
Benneth ;-)

Re: Question for homoeopaths

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:34 am
by Irene de Villiers
Turn the volume down on the TV then:-)

BOTH Sul and Lyc: haughty, dictatorial, egotistical, quarrelsome, religious, sensitive, tactiturn.

SUL only: absorbed, worse for embarassment, strong conscience, communicative, poor grooming, fanaticism, short neck, wide torso, big and broad head, strong eye expression, shortwaisted.

LYC only: worse from contradiction or deception, easy anger, delusions he neglected his duty, fear being alone or appearing in public, weak character (ego is bravado hiding behind coward) , emaciation when older, longwaisted "long and lithe", longbodied, long neck and head, very narrow hips.

Hahnemann was a clear Sulph.
Where do you see Lyc?
EEw, well I can not see any doubt:-)
He was no coward, he had real character and was definitely a fanatic!
I see No chance of confusing Plat or Lyc either:-)
Why do you say that?
Sulph is the inventor type, not Lyc.
Sulph will observe what is about and figure how to use it to invent new stuff. Sulph will take stuff apart to see how it works.
Restlessness - sul and Lyc both have that - it is not cowardice.
Cowardice would show in not supportig his theories, hardly the case with H.
Lyc ages by getting skinny and losing hair, Sul ages without losing weight, cares little for own appearance though so will look poorly.
No, these featureare Sul and Lyc - you have to look at those that are one without te other.
Lyc is capricious, Sul wants attention, Lyc is superficial, Sul is fanatic about his ideas.
What do you mean?
Again - what do you mean?
A type is aligned to genetics - its for life.
No. They are both very sensitive actually. Sul's like to show off, but Lyc's play around, it is a subtle difference.
No it is deadly to some:-)
With THAT hairstyle?
:-)

I have not studied him but I suspect you have not known any Lycs, or you would see the difference.
I'd agree that Phos is more common than say Lach or Colch, but it has no gender propensity aqnd is nowhere near a large percentage of individuals of any species.
YOu are dreaming:-)
So is he.
Examples:
Easy to differentiate if you look ONLY at what is in one rem and not another, and eliminate all sx that are common between the optios you are considering.
Then use the PHYSICAL traits. They are very definite.
For example, IF you are truly an Ars, then you will have these traits:
(Tell me if I am anywhere close)
Taller than average, with long arms but they were short when you were a small kid compared to your long torso and you had some chubbiness as a baby, were not that tall to start with but shot up a lot in one particular year, suddenly becoming tall. As a baby, studied stuff with amazingly long concentrtion span rather than walking soon, but as an adult have very strong muscles, almost a wiry tall build, a lot of long muscle - could tend to add weight when older. Very capable in intellectual areas especially developing new ideas. DO not need help, can do it solo.
No bum to speak of, pants tend to fall down if not held up. You walk with a long stride, may be good at long distance running, but not at sprinting. Probably want to live somewhere uncrowded.
Yes???? No???
No Sil is smaller in stature, strongly athletic --- not Sul, too lazy:-) .
Oh they are, and with pertinacity too, but not the same kind of imperiousness of a Sul, nor the rather faked way of a Lyc.

....Irene

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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Question for homoeopaths

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 10:58 am
by Roger B
This makes a lot of sense. If someone is putting out xyz vibration or has xyz vibration within them, causing the disease that we call xyz, and if you zap this vibration with a homeopathic remedy that has the xyz vibration, then the two vibrations would cancel each other out. This is what happens with physical electromagnetic vibrations, meaning light. If you have two light beams of say exactly the same blue vibration and the same strength coming at each other from opposite directions, they will cancel each other. They both disappear. Please don't ask me where the energy "disappears" to, since I don't know. This is called the science of spectrography. This is how human beings discovered helium (from the Greek word "helios" meaning "Sun") in the Sun. There are helium molecules in the Sun's atmosphere that absorb the light generated in the Sun by helium, and this light was missing in solar spectra. Neat, uh?

So, homeopathy is probably vibrational in ways we don't fully understand, but said vibrations work like regular light with regard to what spectrum scientists call "interference".

Robin, you are the boss. Thank you.
Roger Bird
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: coventrybird@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2013 05:49:01 -0800
Subject: RE: Re: [Minutus] Question for homoeopaths

Could the determining of the remedy a person is associated with mean- because it is a vibrational modality- the person's vibration is in tuned with that particular remedies vibration?
Robin

General Dip. Hom.
---In minutus@yahoogroups.com, wrote:
Will discuss later - have urgent issue first.. Irene

Re: Question for homoeopaths

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:08 pm
by John R. Benneth
In a message dated 12/3/2013 1:34:16 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, furryboots@icehouse.net writes:
Well,first of all I'm making some unfair assumptions about his character for Lyc. as are you to extract Sul. from from him. I lunged at Lyc. because of the imperiousness, but Lyc. is too unsympathetic to the suffering of others to havae cared enough to create such a doctrine as what we are blessed with. It's easy to come up with Lyc. or Sulph for a remedy for just about anyone because the range of their action is so broad, but their are a couple of tip offs that he was a Sil. as Liz and Kaviraj have claimed, or speclataed, and those are his unusually large head, which Lyc. and Sul. don't usually have, and the baldness at an early age, and his sensitivity, which seems to me to be more Sil. than Lyc.
I would be inclinded to agree that there was more discretion than cowardice, yes, but fanticism? I don;'t know . .
Not if you know someof the private details. Plats have been called sexy Lyc.'s
So will a meth addict. AND SUl. easdily morphs into Lyc thorugh Calc. Sil morphs into Fluoric acid through Puls.
Well that wsn't Hahnemann. He also avoids much discussionof surgery, which is Sil.
Interesting distinctions to be sure . . but I'm afraid he was a Sil.
I don't think so.
Plats have an affinity for Sul's. . .they stick together.
Well, yeah, if you're dosing them repeatedly with high or ascending potencies.
Good point. Probably another Sil. . . big head.
I think I've known too many . . LOL!
Maybe
Don't remember
Maybe
Only when I'm jumping out a window with buckshot in my ass.
I can run 12 steps before collapsing, if the dog isn't dragging me.
Yes, definitely, especially other homoeopaths.
Yeah, very good, Irene, but I've also been called other things by homeopaths, so I don't know anymore for sure, but things improved, settled down for me after Ars., the rats leave mealone now, and it improved my eyesight, whereas Lyc. cured an impossibly frozen shoulder, and Sul a mysterious dermatitis. I think my current wife turned my hair white.
Interesting to note that you don't include much in the way of mentals for Ars., such as a pathetically malicious sense of humor. Some people I think really hate me, or come unglued if I sare at hem too long, but others it seems can become quite attached, or at least used to, when I had money. Women have been a problem . .
I know an Ars. who when he was given a dose of it, says he hit the doctor. Pow!
Where do you get he was lazy or wasn't athletic or small ?
Well, Irene, I think we're both wrong and Liz and Kaviraj are right. So that makes 3 to 1. So you lose the vote . . so far. But good job on the disinctions, I must say.
best wishes on your case,
Benneth

Re: Question for homoeopaths

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:28 pm
by Irene de Villiers
It isn't a voting issue, we do not select remedies by vote:-)
Thx..
Thanks much!

I got my document filed by noon deadline Monday by the way - very largely thanks to all the folk who jumped in to supply me with references to use.

A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL!

Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Question for homoeopaths

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:41 pm
by tikva
I use LM potencies in most chronic cases. I also teach how to use LM potencies to people who do not yet know how.
I love them.

Re: Question for homoeopaths

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 12:54 pm
by Tanya Marquette
Glad to hear we were of help to you. Know how stressful this legal assault can be.
Keep us informed.
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From: Irene de Villiers
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 6:28 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Question for homoeopaths
It isn't a voting issue, we do not select remedies by vote:-)
Thx..
Thanks much!

I got my document filed by noon deadline Monday by the way - very largely thanks to all the folk who jumped in to supply me with references to use.

A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL!

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: Question for homoeopaths

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2013 9:45 pm
by Elizabeth Brandegee
Good points, John :) Silica feels more probable for many reasons. Physically, yes with larger head, but also his complexion and countenance. With the coffee jihad, lol, it may not be in repertory, but Sil. is strongly against anything that can sabotage healing, distort a person and is not 'pure'. Especially things that give false, limited or dangerous seemingly 'desirable' affects (like allopathic medicine). They're often involved in intuitive and healing arts. Shyness (inwardness) vs. quite outspoken when inspired; either or both can exist. They can be haughty or imperious but in a way perceived to help others and the world, standing for what's right. A mineral like Silica, so much a part of the whole earth, communication, awareness and clarity (a healed person on all levels) through the ages just fits much more overall than Sulph. or Lyc. More the type/spirit to further the mother of holistic medicine, to me :)
Liz

Re: Question for homoeopaths

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2013 10:19 am
by healthinfo6
As opposed to the many simple cures you've read here where one dose cures a malady, It is more involved in chronic diseases where you may be using an antipsoric and possibly a related nosode...
The remedy must be similar in essence to the patient totality and in degree of attenuation to the miasm, both to induce any change in the case at all, and to reach deep into the essence realm itself. Only intangible remedies can reach the equally rarefied, nebulous and intangible realm of essences [miasms, vital force]. Similarity between remedy and disease [= patient totality] establishes the primary resonance between the two, such that any healing action is possible at all, and potentisation establishes the secondary link between similar drug and the depth of disorder within the essence state. While similars might be seen as concerning quality and properties, potency seems more concerned with matching the energy or intensity of the drug with that of the derangement in the life force [miasm]. Such a view also echoes Kent when, regarding potency, he says that "the higher the deeper," [5] meaning that only the higher [more intangible] potencies of the right remedy [simillimum] can reach deep enough into the intangible depths of the vital force where the true miasmic derangements lie hidden, i.e. the realm of essence. Therefore, acting only at the surface, superficially, the low potencies can only act upon acute superficial miasms.
http://www.homeoint.org/morrell/articles/miasms.htm
Susan