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Re: Media code for homeopaths

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:07 am
by Jennifer Ruby
One thing our Study Group is doing tomorrow morning (this has been in the works a couple months), is to have a Open House for our town, which we printed fliers and put all over, and we have 3 SG members doing power point presentation speeches on What Homeopathy is, The History of Homeopathy, and What Study Groups are; how they study, when and where they meet, and an open invitation for the public to get to know more about their option to learn the benefits of Homeopathy.

A lot of people have never heard of it, and don't know what Homeopathy is. I feel Study Groups can not only help those members who study together, but also can build solidarity between local homeopaths in each city and within each state. We need to get to know one another, promote homeopathy as a unified goal, and build on each others strengths.

If Homeopathy is unknown to the public and it's benefits are not known to them and their family and friends..... the political clout will not be there to help fight our opposition. This is something we can all do on a small local scale. Local coffee shops are usually gracious to donate coffee, and other items. I've found that some Homeopathic Remedy companies are willing to donate reasonable quantities of samples to promote Homeopathy to the public. What we need to contribute is our time and creativity to get involved and promote it on a local level.
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Re: Media code for homeopaths

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 12:24 am
by Tanya Marquette
Thank you Fran, I see we are really on the same page.
tanya

Re: Media code for homeopaths

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:32 am
by Fran Sheffield
This sort of thing is so useful Jennifer.

In the past it was also so easy to do and everyone made room for it as part of vibrant and diverse community life.

From my experience, all that has been changing in recent years.

Those working against homeopathy now complain to papers who report or advertise such events, contact and complain (or imply reprisals) to supporters such as coffee shops, etc, attend and try to disrupt groups with contentious questions, complain to government departments where legislation to 'control' homeopathy has been sneaked in over the last few years.

So, little groups should be aware that they may start attracting that sort of opposition and work out ahead of time how they will respond while keeping in mind that it is only arising because they have been high profile enough and effective enough to rattle some peoples cages.

The worst thing to do for homeopathy (and personal freedoms) is to be intimidated into compliance - just keep your activities within the law so there aren't any complaints they can seriously use and make the most of the publicity that comes with it - even if a lot of it is negative, people are becoming fed up with the one-sided nature of things and being told how to think - there is an under-current of resentment and anger and disillusionment about these matters that is growing.

Apologies if all this is a little too intense but the political landscape has changed enormously over the last couple of years and it would be wrong to think that the organised groups out to harm homeopathy will just go away or can be placated into inaction.
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Fran Sheffield
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Re: Media code for homeopaths

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:13 am
by John Harvey
Jennifer's group's initiative strikes me too as a very useful one, and one that it shouldn't be too hard to replicate using a common set of resources, including a set of slides carefully edited for factual substance (as well as spelling!) and perhaps a set of speaker notes. What would partially address your point, Fran, from the outset would be incorporation of evidence of the highest standards into the presentation: evidence that hecklers can be referred back to and asked to confirm through the URLs etc. provided.

One thing that such a presentation is ideally suited to do is to present evidence in the easiest possible format: the visual, by which I mean graphs.

Would there be a few on the list interested to work together on developing a bulletproof presentation that's suitable for use in all English-speaking countries?

John

Re: Media code for homeopaths

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:58 pm
by Fran Sheffield
Good idea John, and I am happy to help. Graphs sound like a good idea.

Apart from presenting the factual to correct the lies, another response that is also effective is something like the following:

"We are rather flattered by all this attention you give to us. If you really think there is nothing to homeopathy, why do you bother?"

Something like this is not seen as reactionary or threatening but makes people think and reveals the dishonesty of what is going on.
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Kind regards,

Fran Sheffield
Homeopathy Plus! (Tutorials - Remedies - Immunisation)
http://www.homeopathyplus.com.au
Do No Harm Initiative (Free Information on Homeopathic Immunisation)
http://www.d-n-h.org
Homeopathy for Autism (Guidelines for Treatment - Search for Practitioners)
http://www.homeopathy4autism.com

Re: Media code for homeopaths

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 2:56 pm
by Tanya Marquette
On this line of thinking, we need to note that when we are dealing with 'denialists,' we are most
often dealing a faith based belief system. It is cellular learning. To present another concept
again, in the social sciences it is called Cognitive Dissonance. Logic will never work with
people who are responding from an emotional base. I deal with this all the time on other issues
where the 'facts' are abundant but behavior and beliefs never change.
We can also remember that so many converts to homeopathy did so when allopathic medicine
totally failed and the person reached a point of desperation (deep emotional state). That state
becomes stronger than their denialism and allows them to try homeopathy. When saved by
homeopathy, they become true believers. Let's remember the conversion of Kent to homeopathy.
It is one thing to present facts to people who want to learn. But quite another if you are dealing with
people who are emotionally conditioned to be dependent on the medical industry and such big
institutions as the pharma corps which control the media. Then we are dealing with belief systems
that resist challenges and fears.
We need to develop the same kinds of approaches to our presentations that are used in major
markeing campaigns. Edward Bernay, if you recall, took his uncle Freud's understanding of the
human psyche and used it to develop means to control the masses. He wrote a book back in the
1920's revealing his totalitarian philosophy. He was revered by governments and industry. We
need to look at this type of strategy inorder to develop one that works for us.
tanya

Re: Media code for homeopaths

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:01 pm
by Jennifer Ruby
Fran,

I think your positive approach is a Great one! There is so much political manipulation going on. Some people are amazingly unaware that they're being manipulated, in most cases by fear..... It's obvious to those of us who think, that mainstream allopathy IS threatened by Homeopathy, in that people are turning to non-toxic methods of health, in an alternative to drugs.... Thus their attack on Homeopathy. They're loosing their market share. In reality, it's not about health... never has been. It's about control, manipulation and profit.... I like your positive approach!
Jennifer
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May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2
Jennifer Ruby
Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.
http://www.rubysemporium.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SymphonicHealth
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy
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Re: Media code for homeopaths

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 4:20 pm
by Jennifer Ruby
On 2/5/2011 7:56 AM, tamarque@earthlink.net wrote:
Tanya,
You're so right about it being a faith based system. Some just want to check their brains at the door and abdicate their responsibility for their health to another... the MD. They don't want to be pro-active, to have to change their diets, and their physical habits.... to change the core reason they became ill in the first place.... With holistic medicine, most requires some form of introspection, communication, a decent diet, and a willingness to think outside the box.

I will quote you from Dr. Mendelsohn, MDs book: "Confessions of a medical Heretic": He states "When doctors are criticized for not telling their patients about the side effects of the drugs they prescribe, they defend themselves on the grounds that the doctor-patient relationship would suffer from such honesty. That deference implies that the doctor-patient relationship is based on something other than knowledge. Its based on faith.

We don't say we know our doctors are good, we say we have faith in them. We trust them.

Don't think that doctors aren't aware of the difference. And don't believe for a minute that they don't play it for all its worth. Because what's at stake is the whole ball game, the whole ninety percent or more of Modern Medicine that we don't need, that, as a matter of fact, is out to kill us.

Modern Medicine cant survive without our faith, because Modern Medicine is neither an art, nor a science. Its a religion.

One definition of religion identifies it as any organized effort to deal with puzzling or mysterious things we see going on in and around us. The Church of Modern Medicine deals with the most puzzling phenomena: birth, death, and all the tricks our bodies play on us and we on them in between. In The Golden Bough, religion is defined as the attempt to gain the favor of powers superior to man, which are believed to direct and control the course of nature and of Human life.

If people don't spend billions of dollars on the Church of Modern Medicine in order to gain favor with the powers that direct and control human life, what do they spend it on?

Common to all religions is the claim that reality is not limited to or dependent upon what can be seen, heard, felt, tasted, or smelled. You can easily test Modern Medical Religion on this Characteristic by simply asking "why"? enough times. Why are you prescribing this drug? Why is this operation going to do me any good? Why do I have to do that? Why do you have to do that to me?

Just ask "why?" Enough times and sooner or later you'll reach the Chasm of Faith. Your doctor will retreat into the fact that you have no way of knowing or understanding all the wonders he has at his command. Just trust me.

This is the first lesson in medical heresy. Lesson number Two is that is a doctor ever wants to do something to you that you're afraid of and ask why? Enough times until he says Just Trust Me, what you're to do is turn around and put as much distance between you and him as you can, as fast as your condition allows."

Still quoting. ( His terminology is the witch doctor , as it is a non holy religion)

"Unfortunately, very few people do that. They submit. They allow their fear of the witch doctors mask, the unknown spirit behind it, and the mystery of what is happening and of what will happen, to change into respectful awe of the whole show.

But you don't have to let the witch doctor have his way. You can liberate yourself from Modern Medicine and it doesn't mean you'll take chances with your health. In fact, you'll be taking less of a chance because there's no more dangerous activity than walking into a doctors office, clinic, or hospital unprepared. And by being prepared I don't mean having your insurance forms filled out. I mean you have to get in and out alive and accomplish your mission. For that you'll need appropriate tools, skills, and cunning.

The first tool you must have in any war is knowledge of the enemy. Once you understand Modern Medicine as a religion, you can fight it and defend yourself more effectively than when you think you're fighting off a science. Medicine never calls itself a church. You'll never see a medical building dedicated to the religion of medicine, always the medical arts, or medical science.

Modern Medicine relies on faith to survive. All religions do. So heavily does the Church of Modern Medicine rely on faith that if everyone somehow simply forgot to believe in it for even one day, the whole system would collapse. For how else could any institution get people to do the things Modern Medicine gets people to do, without inducing a profound suspension of doubt ? Would people allow themselves to be artificially put to sleep and then cut to pieces in a process they couldn't have the slightest notion about if they didn't have faith ? Would people swallow the thousands of tons of pills every year again without the slightest knowledge of what these chemicals are going to do if they didn't have faith?

If Modern Medicine had to validate its procedures objectively, this book "Confessions of a Medical Heretic" wouldn't be necessary. That's why I'm going to demonstrate how Modern Medicine is not a church you want to put your faith in.

Most doctors are unable to recognize wellness, simply because they're not trained in wellness, but in disease. Because they have sharper eyes for signs of disease than for signs of health, and because they have no conception of the relative importance of signs of both in the same person, they're more apt to pronounce you sick than well.

The Gospel says that many are called, but few are chosen, but the Church of Modern Medicine goes that one better. All are called, and most are chosen!

DOCTORS STRIKE AND DEATH RATE FALLS!

How truly deadly the "Church" is comes into stark relief whenever there's a doctors strike. In 1976 in Bogota, Columbia there was a fifty-two-day period in which doctors disappeared altogether except for emergency care. The "National Catholic Reporter" described the string of unusual side effects from the strike. The death rate went down thirty-five percent. A spokesperson for the National Mortician Association said, It might be a coincidence, but it is a fact. An eighteen percent drop in the death rate occurred in Los Angeles County in 1976 when doctors there went on strike to protest soaring malpractice insurance premiums. Dr. Milton Roemer, a professor of Health Dare Administration at UCLA, surveyed seventeen major hospitals and found that sixty percent fewer operations were performed. When the strike ended and the medical machines started grinding again, the death rate went right back up to where it had been before the strike.

The same thing happened in Israel in 1973 when doctors reduced their daily patient contact from 65,000 to 7,000. The strike lasted a month. According to the Jerusalem Burial Society, the Israeli death rate dropped fifty percent during that month. There had not been such a profound decrease in mortality since the last doctors strike twenty years before!"
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This ends my sporadic quotes from Dr. Mendelsohn, MD., in his book "Confessions of a Medical Heretic". You probably have heard of him, as he was the chairman of the Medical Licensure Committee for the state of Illinois. There is a Political Agenda, which is demonic, ungodly, with money at its core. The AMA is nothing more than a political Mafia and Trade Union. Greed is behind their political agendas. One needs to have a close look at the Codex Legislation. Look into the New Medicare restrictions place in this new budget bill that was passed in 1997, involving the choices, or lack thereof of Medicare patients. You will find out that even their own cash is no good. Big brother will dictate to them what procedures will be available to them. You will see that there IS indeed an political agenda; a conspiracy. As Americans, we are going to wake up one day, and find we have no choices to make. They will all already have been made for us.

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Health, Hope, Joy & Healing :
May you Prosper, even as your Soul Prospers 3John 2
Jennifer Ruby
Email advice is not a substitute for medical treatment.
http://www.rubysemporium.org
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SymphonicHealth
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Therapeutic-Laser_Therapy
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Reversingautism
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/SOTA_LightWorks/
http://www.lazrpulsr.com
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Re: Media code for homeopaths

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 6:27 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Fran, I like the "why do you bother?" approach *except*, an objection that is sometimes raised to counter that, is that ineffective therapies can prevent people from getting "the help that they need".

Re: Media code for homeopaths

Posted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:15 pm
by Fran Sheffield
Yes, they often say this.

At this point I nicely reassure them that I can put their mind to rest regarding this as the vast majority of people come to see homeopaths only because conventional medicine has either not been able to help them or the side effects have been so severe that treatment has been impossible.

That can also be followed up with the studies that show patient response and satisfaction of those referred into homeopathy by their conmed doctors (thanks Steve Scrutton for first exposing me to this abbreviation - love it) is so much higher BUT these studies should be used judiciously because the skeptics will then use them to confuse the issue and waltz you right back into their circular arguments - often it is better just to mention that the studies show this and if they want to know which ones, tell them to google them - that they are reallly very easy to find and may enjoy reading them (turn the tables and get them to do the runniing around they are trying to make you do).

I think we have to realise that our arguments should not really be directed at informing the skeptics as they really already know and just want to disparage - arguments and explanations should be subtly directed to those wondering onlookers. They are the ones who are secretly waiting to be informed and we can do that in the nicest possible way that reflects well on the profession.

Fran.