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Lisa, apart from your motivation in addressing these questions to Dave
Hartley, I think that, taken individually, they would make very useful
exercises for many in the group, similar to those Mary-Anne Black is
running. This is a kind of exercise that I've often heard suggested, but it
would be helpful to do them in a community framework, I suspect. Rosemary
C. Hyde

I agree with this I think it would provide a very interesting and
informative project - perhaps we could attach it to the online cases, so as
to provide a real live foundation or perhaps on a purely comparitive level.
Would anyone else like to join in this? Joy Lucas.
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To those colleagues who practise Sehgal's way.

Pt asks for the window to be opened.

Is it fair to take light, desires ?

Soroush

Lisa:

statements such as this
Unfortunately Dave Hartley's rudeness is only exceeded by his ignorance.
tell more about the originator than the target.
If you've been studying Sehgal method ever since you first began to study
homoepathy, that pretty much confirms what your writing puts between the
lines:
You don't understand the basics of homeopathy.

Since you've brought up ignorance, and since this is a discussion group
based on HOMEOPATHY- please tell us what the repertory actually is.

Tell us the history, construction, and purpose of the repertory in
homeopathy.
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To Lisa and all who use minutus.

I think we owe it Dr Shahrdar and Homoeopathy to be respectful at all times.

If you feel someone has not understood something, the best way of
high-lighting it is by asking probing questions.
And as a well trained homeopath you should not find this too difficult!

So please let us all calm it and get back to the questions and answers which
is beautiful part of this site. Consider that everything we write on this
site my have an educational point or value to it.

Before I finish this post, may I remind you that Hn advised that the
physician should NOT SPECULATE.

SCIENCE (homeopathy) has been built on facts.

Good healing

Soroush

Hey man....Chill!! ...remember to breathe ...and release ....if your fellow homeopaths
can get you that frazzled, what you got left in the bag ...for the sufferings of humanity ???
I thought I had left 'flaming' and flamers behind in University as a freshman... ah well

peace and love

Jas

Dave Hartley wrote:

a lot of stuff !!! [snip]

Probably it would also be best to specify source of material quoted.
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Hello Piet,

Don't worry that ridicule from persons who support the idea that the
repertory is a work suitable for imaginative/interpretative transliteration
should have too much affect upon me.

I've asked Lisa a very basic question- let me put it also to you:

What is the purpose of the repertory in homeopathy?

What is the difference between "desire for light" and "desire for
enlightenment"
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Hi all,

Aconite: (from "relations"section of lac can)

Must have light, yet is intolerant of sunlight; diphtheria (Acon., Amm.
mur., Bellad., Calc. ac., Calc. ostr., Gelsem., Ruta, Stramon)

¤ Desire for light; photomania.(hr1)
- Desire for light, longing to look into the bright light (h1)

Ammonium mur

In the evening, burning and closing of the eyes, as from drowsiness, which
passed off when light was brought in (h2)

Belladonna

- Desires light, but shuns company (hr1)

Calc carb

Before going to sleep in the evening, anxious thoughts, which passed and
came again; the also supposed the objects around to be different from what
they were, feared the dark and endeavored to look into the light; all of
this ceased on the passage of flatus. (h2)
Gelsemium

¤¤ Thirst for light. (hr1)

Lac caninum

|| Must have light, yet is intolerant of sunlight. ð Diphtheria (hr1)

Natrum mur
Woke at 2 A. M. in perspiration, and with a distressing anxiety, as though
he were shut up in a dark cellar; this sensation only disappeared on
perceiving light through a window (a1)

Hi all,

sorry about the earlier post - got it sent when it was not complete

i thought it would be interesting to find the source of the rubric "light
desire for".
there are 10 drugs given in Kent's repertory - Acon, Amm mur, Bell, Gels,
Calc, lac can, Nat mur, Ruta, Stram, Valer

i searched (using EH)and the results are given below. Abbreviations used
: h1 - Materia medica Pura, h2 - chronic diseases, hr1 - guiding symptoms,
a1-allen's encyclopedia
Aconite:
¤ Desire for light; photomania.(hr1)
- Desire for light, longing to look into the bright light (h1)

Ammonium mur
In the evening, burning and closing of the eyes, as from drowsiness, which
passed off when light was brought in (h2)

Belladonna
- Desires light, but shuns company (hr1)

Calc carb
Before going to sleep in the evening, anxious thoughts, which passed and
came again; the also supposed the objects around to be different from what
they were, feared the dark and endeavored to look into the light; all of
this ceased on the passage of flatus. (h2)

Gelsemium
¤¤ Thirst for light. (hr1)

Lac caninum
|| Must have light, yet is intolerant of sunlight. ð Diphtheria (hr1)

Natrum mur
Woke at 2 A. M. in perspiration, and with a distressing anxiety, as though
he were shut up in a dark cellar; this sensation only disappeared on
perceiving light through a window (a1)
Sttramonium
¤¤ Mania for light and company, cannot bear to be alone (hr1)
* Complained of its being dark, wanted a light (candle) (a1)

Valeriana
Better from light; agg in dark. (hr1)
i didn't find anything for ruta, but it is compared in the "relations"
section of lac can in "guiding symptoms", as are most of the other drugs in
the rubric
- Must have light, yet is intolerant of sunlight; diphtheria
(Acon., Amm.mur., Bellad., Calc. ac., Calc. ostr., Gelsem., Ruta,
Stram )

from this it does seem that Kent has taken the rubric mostly from Hering,
and uses the word "light" in the way most of us would use it.

Of course it does not mean that these drugs *cannot* have the symptom of
desire knowledge, enlightenment etc.
but first of all it should be confirmed clinically, just like any other
symptom (and it should be a clinical symptom is it not, or has the symptom
already been proved / confirmed by someone else?)

and if some of those drugs did have it, it would be because of its ability
to produce that symptom, and *not* because those drugs are given in the
rubric "light desire for". those are two entirely different symptoms -
especially if we remember that the drugs were grouped under the rubric based
on the provings, and not on the *interpretation* of the symptom

regards,
Arun