Minutus

Dilution + succussion = higher potency, quantifiable
Dilution only = same potency, with a smaller dose/amount of remedy, lowers the risk or seriousness of aggravation
Succussion only = small increment in potency, proportionally to the number of succussion but actually not really quantifiable, used when repeating a dose of the same remedy in order not to have exactly the same potency.
With LM/Q potencies, it is done by the patient therefore the force used and the technique used is about the same every time and some level of quantification is possible; theoretically, for each amount of remedy taken out of the bottle, we should add the same amount of water before next succussion in order to have a real increase in potency.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD, NMD.
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind".

"Potency" seems to be a bit of a troublesome word in this context...
In one way "potency" is very straightforward, referring to the dilution
ratio (3c, 6x, LM-4 etc.--all pretty precisely defined). But by
another usage, it refers to the strength, and you can have a single
"potency" (e.g. 200c) of different "potencies", e.g.: prepared with 10
succussions or 100? (more succussions giving a more potent preparation
of the potency ) Dry, or diluted? (Hahnemann says that dry dose
is the weakest--i.e. least potent--form of the potency, I mean dose.)
Diluted in how much water, and how many dilution cups? (more dilution
cups make a gentler dose, yet it is still the same "potency"...) See
what I mean?

So yes, diluting a pellet in water increases its potency in the sense
of efficacy / strength ("comes in contact with more nerve
endings...")--yet to increase the *numbered* potency (200c versus 201c)
you have to *dilute and succuss*--at least that is the way I learned
it. I hope I'm not the only one finding this dual use of the single
word confusing...
Shannon

How did you work it out in the end? Any idea why it caused the problem?
Shannon

I stopped taking the remedy! No, I don't know why it caused problems after being "reconstituted" by adding water to what was left in the bottom of the bottle, and neither did my homeopath... Rosemary

Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:

I see it that way too.
Hahnemann found that merely diluting the remedy did NOT increase the
potency - in fact it diluted the efficacy of the remedy - but that after
succussion the remedy was more powerful.

So to me, I think of it as having the succussion count as related to the
potency count (increasing energy - as indeed your arm feels when you do
this yourself) - and the dilution count as related to the removal
(diluting out) of side effects.

As I see it:
So I do not see dilution as increasing the potency - the potency stays
the same with dilution.
Only succussion adds energy - so only succussion increases the potency.
When a solution is first diluted - it ALL has that same starting potency
as whatever was started with before dilution.
After succussion it all has a higher potency. One has to add energy
- succussion - to increase potency.

Hahnemann compared this to a magnet. If you make a magnet, it starts out
as a chunk of metal with zero magnetism. To increase the magnetism one
has to add energy - by rubbing it or filing it. The more you file/rub,
the higher the magnetic force developed. Cut it in half and you get two
magnets with same magnetism. Divide remedy in half and you get two
bottles each with the same potency.

It all follows the laws of conservation of energy - to get higher
energetic forces you have to physically add energy:-)
So dilution will not increase potency of a remedy and cutting a magnet
in two will not increase its magnetism.

That's my way of looking at it....

Namaste,
IRene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Hi Irene,

I see what you mean but it seems that the dilution process plays a
great part in potentization. Otherwise a dilution of say 1:99
succussed 10 000 times would result in an incredibly powerful remedy
(since the dilution part of making it more lenient would not be
there).

I have not yet heard any evidence of this.

It would be interesting to find out.

Regards

Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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Hi John
My little pharmacy experiments lead me to believe that the remedy is not merely "adhering to the walls of the glass" but that the glass itself may be imbibed with remedy vibration. (Thus the need to boil/sterilize the bottles to reuse them.)

Using an energetic "detector" such as a pendulum, may help you to determine if there's remedy in the bottle -before or after adding alcohol.

And on the other hand..... tho the remedy could be made viable again by adding liquid, why take the chance that the remedy is still sufficiently potent to do the job? For the sake of your patients, why not just get fresh remedies?
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