hahnemannian2002 wrote:
Hi.......(sorry did not find your name on emails so far),
Thanks for writing.
Not many people actually know much about FIP. Most vets have an old vet
school view and most owners are victims of that and of the approach of
throwing prednisone at anything the profession does not know how to fix.
There are three forms of FIP - I want to mention that as they are
significantly different - and the one we are talking about is only one
of them - called "wet" or "effusive" FIP.
It is the only form in which there is accumulation of leaked blood
plasma in the body cavity - either lower abdomen or (worse) upper
abdomen or (still worse) both. It's usually the fastest killer of the
three, so one needs to move fast. "Dry Fip" is sometimes harder to rep
and "neurological FIP" is a real bear to handle (I suspect because it
takes ages to repair brain and nerves and the serious seizure activity
is no help.)
I'll try to answer.
Yes any success with it is still a bit of a miracle. I had my first
success in early 2003 after some in depth study on the new research and
pathology. It caused a subtle change in approach which made the
difference - I found I needed to stress the loss of vital fluid and the
matter of dehydration despite loads of fluid effusion. After all the
blood vessels all leaked out so THEY are short of fluid and dehydrated.
That change in perception was quite important I think.
Yes - well more like 100% in allopathic terms.
The only claim of survival is 4 older cats in Japan out of 12 in a
study. Nobody will answer me on how long they lived or whether they
regained real health or just survived the study.
I know of a single case using herbs that survived - someone wrote to me
about it with a few details but did not respond when more info was
requested.
It's individualistic but with some common principles:
The repertorizing is completely from scratch and most important in each
case. However it is valid that some rubrics occur in a majority of cases
(though not all). What I find is that maybe the most used remedy if
there is such a thing )and it is by a hair) is Cinchona officianalis.
It's at least 2% of cases.
The rest are completely unpredictable on simillimum - all depending on
what kind of stresses triggered the FIP.
So the principle here is to find the mind symptoms that are the trigger
for the mutation of corona to FIP under stress. I seek out the stress
response. Usually the CAUSE of the stress is easy to find - such as
vaccinations and drugs combined with early weaning, early surgery and
moving house - those are the standard causes. Ocasionally the cause is
bullying by another cat with some human adding to the trauma - or some
other severe stress. But the seevre stress is not so relevant I find.
It's the cat's response to it that matters.
For example in a current case, the kitten's history involves the owner
throwing things at it and yelling at it - causing fear so the kitten was
shaking like a jelly - and getting diarrhea from fear - which in turn
was followed by multiple harsh drugs by the vet for the "bad breeding
causing intestinal IBD". All this and the kitten is a sensitive Phos
type. I DO find that knowing the constitutional type is a good way to
understand the response of the kitten.....Wet Fip often is in young kittens.
But FIp takes time to develop, several months - and a second owner
had the kitten for months before it showed symptoms. The cat hid from
all and sundry - till it's best friend kitten was confined in different
room as it was ill with something. The FIp kitten for the first time
came out of its self-imposed confinement to be with the other kitten.
An odd item - The kitten walks and stands with rear legs bent.
These facts gave me:
MIND - FEAR - misfortune, of - losing something of great value
MIND - AILMENTS FROM - emotions
MIND - AILMENTS FROM - mental shock; from
RECTUM - DIARRHEA - accompanied by - Intestines - weakness of
EXTREMITIES - FLEXED - Lower limbs
GENERALS - MEDICINE - allopathic - abuse of
which points quite clearly to Secale Cornutum.
All I did then was to check that the FIP-specific symptoms of THIS case
are somewhere in Sec - such as:
ABDOMEN - DISTENSION - tympanitic (not always tympanitic)
BACK - ATROPHY - Spine - Muscles
GENERALS - EMACIATION - progressive (not always the case)
GENERALS - DRYNESS of usually moist internal parts
All clearly confirmed Sec for this case.
Yet it is the first Sec case after 300 cases.
I've had a hard job even getting hold of them but lately have tried Pred
30C in a few cases. So far one success, one not, and a current case is
super-sensitive to the Pred 30c even in 3 dilution cups.
I only use it where pred was given to the cat before it came my way.
I would not use it otherwise.
To me it would be like saying just because snake poison makes people
sicker, one should always use potentised snake poison.
I feel it needs to be a matching remedy, so I use Pred when I know there
has been pred damage - in the hope of reversing the damage of recent
pred use. (It wrecks the thymus and I find the thymus essential to make
Th-1 cytokines towards overcoming the FIP - my personal theory based on
my immunopharmacology studies and experience with FIP - no specific
research.)
FIP vaccine is a literally brainless idea:-))
Think of it this way:
FIP is a disease in which FIP antibodies destroy the cat.
Giving the cat a vaccine to *increase* antibodies to kill the cat makes
how much sense????
In practice what the FIP vaccine does, is to pre-charge the cat with
self-killer antibody so that IF it mutates FIP, it will kill the cat
that much faster.
In addition - the skewing of the immune system that occurs with ALL
vaccines to tH-2 - is a prerequisite for any Th-2 chronic disease
including FIP - so now it is not only ready to go fast with FIP - but
also predisposed to actually get it. So the next mutation to FIP from
ubiquitous corona virus in the gut, will have zero defence from the cat
whose Th-1 macrophage defence is now missing - and whose antibodies to
HELP FIP destroy it - are all ready to aim and fire!
No vet worth his salt will touch that vaccine with a bargepole - but
sadly there are some who do not understand FIP kills using antibodies:-)
I DO use the FIP/FeLV/FIV combination nosode in 30c with FIP cases. I do
not know if it helps once the FIP is really active. (I've tried FIP 200C
and that is too specific to use AFTER infection (too isode?), I see no
benefit and have stopped suggesting it. The 30C combination one though
DOES help when a kitten is in very early stage and uses it - that has
chased the illness each time.
So I suggest it in all FIP cases as an "extra". I see the simillimum as
the main remedy however.
I've had an Iod case - the cat in question was hyperthyroid before
getting FIP.
Because the TRUE simillimum has to do with the mentals mainly - and the
FIp issues secondarily - it's not IMO possible to guess a genus
epidemicus if you like - at least not in my experience though if I was
forced to "try something" with no repping available I'd try China.
Has
See that's part of the misunderstanding with FIP.
Also a problem if one does repping "from the wrong end" - the physicals.
This fluid is NOT dropsy.
Dropsy involves CELL fluid leaking into the interstitial spaces between
the cells. It is not loss of blood plasma into the body cavity.
Usually there is zero dropsy in this illness. If anything there is
dehydration.
So I think a dropsy approach is incorrect here.
Off hand I know I have used one of the Aur's but do not remember which
one. And I think it was in a "dry" FIp case not a wet one. Sorry - can't
be sure off hand.
I do not use Ascites as a rubric - because again that is not blood
plasma leaking. Ascites is failure of normal cellular fluid to be
returned where it belongs so that it accumulates where it does not
belong. FIP fluid is leaked blood plasma through compromised blood
vessel walls - it is not a lymph or circulatory issue of transport - but
of leaking.
Better options are:
GENERALS - BLOOD VESSELS - complaints of
GENERALS - DISTENSION blood vessels
GENERALS - INFLAMMATION - Blood vessels
GENERALS - INFLAMMATION - Blood vessels - Veins
GENERALS - LOSS - fluids, of
But I use these AFTER I look for mentals that are the disease trigger.
Remedies do not come up over and over again in this. They seem to be all
over the place and I think it is because the mind causes can be anything
perceived by the cat under stress.
That's a wide field!
As above.
Don't know of anything that causes a similar picture.
Malaria comes to mind as some cats have a severe remittant fever with
lassitude and weakness - and indeed China is the most common WET FIP
remedy if you can call one common.
I do not see it as similar.
I have not seen it come up yet - but the current Sec case is interesting
in that Sec is also a possible Anthrax remedy if I rememebr rightly.
Ars is useful in terminal cases where recovery is not going to happen
and palliation is needed.
Not much - A Merc sol case yes - and CArbo-v in collapse as a "starter"
remedy - but I do not start with pathology - I start with mentals then
"check" if the pathology is covered.
To me mentals are alwasys the biggest part of a case.
But I am interested - what rubrics did you use in your pathological rep?
NAmaste,
IRene
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