Minutus

not in this country, can't speak for elsewhere

kind regards

Simon King
44 (0)1603 466092
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http://www.Homeopathy-Help.net
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If that course stated that all herbs are universally safe or that any
dosage is then no it doesn't! - lol
However Im sure that's not what it taught. Presumably they did teach
the same cautions as in those very examples I gave of horsetail,
bearberry, echinacea, chelidonium etc?

Therefore I urge caution in stating that 'herbs are safe'' as it may
be construed by those that have not got sufficient training in
Herbalism that the dangers of side effects, toxicity or aggravations
do not exist, when they do!

I would reiterate what Dr Lela said, that herbs need to be
individualised, and would add 'with caution'.

I would suggest that the homeopathic MMs sometimes give useful
indications for the use of herbs but not of dosage or
contraindications, which is also true for several of the more popular
herbal MMs and books in common usage.

there are some introductory comments on my site on this subject here:
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/homeopathy ... Organ_Rxs/
organrxs.html
unfortunately I ran out of time to finish that project.
kind regards

Simon King
http://www.Homeopathy-Help.net
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Dear Irene,
thanks for all those details of your experience.
Was it your website that i read about FIP in cats in the past? since
I'm intermittently on and off lists, I tend to be forgetful of
names. I did refer a few people to read those cases, etc. I enjoyed
reading them myself.

I think autoimmune disease of organs may be one situation where
mother tinctures could help organ function.
Autoimmune disease like SLE in humans have needed repeated plussed
dosing of constitutional remedies in addition to intercurrent
remedies. And still sometimes one feels like one is fighting a
losing battle. I know exactly what you mean by the disease winning
the race.
But they interest me and I think my future work will concentrate on
their therapeutics with homeopathy.

If you have symptoms of local organs matching a specific remedy,
mother tinctures moving up to low potencies like 1X and 2X in
dilution could be used once the tinctures have completed their
effect.

Thanks,
d.r leela
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In a message dated 11/23/2006 4:42:34 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
sk2006@ntlworld.com writes:

I think it is important not to give students the impression as
Rochelle said that all herbs are 'safe'
There is nothing inherently 'safe' about herbal dosage, as you and I
have both underlined it needs to be individualised.

Even Rochelle's own example doesn't illustrate the assertion that
herbs are 'safe'

kind regards

Simon King
44 (0)1603 466092
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Dear Simon,
With all due respect I think you have made your point ,and a very valid
point, and no one is disagreeing with
you that the use of MTs needs to be an educated use and followed with
observation.
Your repetition of this is beginning to sound argumentative and when the
thread of conversation goes down this road it is never helpful.
best,
Bonnie
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Bonnie,
- not my intention in the slightest to be argumentative as such I was
simply replying to points raised - I thought!

- part of the problem may be that these posts do not come to me in
the order they are written and usually in a bunch
Consequently I often reply en masse
kind regards

Simon King
44 (0)1603 466092
(include the zero in brackets only if calling from the UK)
http://www.Homeopathy-Help.net
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They are to be given with care after reading the MM about them. It is always
useful to get feedback from patients after a few days. As I say I only give
them in drop doses.
Leela I would love to know which herb can be dangerous with just a couple of
drops.
Remember also Herbal tinctures should not be given to children under 2 and
that the dosage unlike homeopathy depends of the weight of the patient. i.e.
children have 1/2 the dose of adults and the elderly will need less if they
are small as well.
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

Most dosing for herbs is based on 150 lbs. So if your child only weighs 50
lbs then 1/3 the dose would be correct it is not always 1/2. And some
herbal tinctures can be given to children under two. If a herb was
dangerous only after a few drops I would not suggest using it for any
condition on anyone unless you are a master herbalist, I am and still would
not use that unless there were no other alternatives. Many herbs are
dangerous if not used correctly, they are nothing to play with. Thanks
Kathy

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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Rochelle Marsden
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:05 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Fw: [Minutus] Re: to :doctor leela
They are to be given with care after reading the MM about them. It is always

useful to get feedback from patients after a few days. As I say I only give
them in drop doses.
Leela I would love to know which herb can be dangerous with just a couple of

drops.
Remember also Herbal tinctures should not be given to children under 2 and
that the dosage unlike homeopathy depends of the weight of the patient. i.e.

children have 1/2 the dose of adults and the elderly will need less if they
are small as well.
Rochelle
Registered Homeopath
EFT(Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk

I do not remember any occasion where I needed to give mother
tinctures to children, Most of the time mother tinctures are given
where more tissue changes have taken place and for local conditions
or as organ remedies... since such states are uncommon in children
there should not be much occasion to give MTs

Even in adults it is generally given as few drops and as such should
not be too dangerous. Suggested use by experienced practitioners can
be guiding. RTCooper used it as single drop doses...
From what I have seen raising the medicine to some lower range
potencies such as 2x etc. might also work...

Repeating any medicine ( MT or potencies) has some drawbacks. Of
course there are exceptions and LMs are another story.
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--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "dr. leela" wrote:

One of the ways you find nosode is to see if the patient's disease
has any relationship to the condition from which the nosode is
derived.

Cirrhotic liver is related to Carcinoma Liver.

If we had Hepatitis nosode - that would be the best...

In this occasion - why cannot Psorinum be indicated - it is psora +
syphilis- so why just Tuberculinum?

Hi Simon,

how about the "herbal teas" recommended by so many naturopaths
(homeopaths?) for drinking instead of coffee or "normal" tea?

Regards

Luise
--
One thought to all who, free of doubt,
So definitely know what's true:
2 and 2 is 22 -
and 2 times 2 is 2:-)
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