Minutus

The baryta sulph will be manipulative due to the sulphur aspect of the
picture - often through jealousy.

People do 'move' though remedies and over a long period of time we tend
to see that as being quite natural but when it is condensed into a
short time it can take us by surprise. You will have no way of knowing
although sometimes a clear remedy relationship occurs when looking
back. Remedies unlock doors for new sx pictures to emerge. Best wishes,
Joy
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Can anyone say when it entered the reps because it isn't in my book
form Kent or book form early Synthetic. Aconite is in bold type and you
could sum up the intensity of this rx as having too acute an
imagination = intellectual?? Also 'thinks his thoughts come from his
stomach' - I've heard of thinking with your feet but that is really
strange )

I always suggest that when you don't completely understand a rubric
then study the rx in that rubric and this should really help - Sulphur,
Veratrum, Lycopodium you can understand being there, Hellebore makes an
interesting entrance and glancing at some of the other rx present then
you are looking at the flip side of 'brainy' and it is quite the
reverse you find, different extremes that contribute to the imbalance
of being ill, but it is the intellect that is primarily effected. All
food for thought. Best wishes, Joy
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I'm passionate about trifles too, I like mine with lots of fruit in
them

Lovely case Chris. You see this a lot on Baryta, naturally enough when
your free expression has been thwarted there is a tendency for a
diversion of those energies and to become 'picky' and concentrate on
the little things. Must be in the fastidious rubric?

I am also fascinated with the fact that twins were involved and
premature. There really is a connection to the birth canal and the
'narrow placed they are forced through' and the temper tantrums a way
of breaking through. Thanks. Joy
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Thanks for this. Does the rubric "passionate" with reference to Bar-C only refer to "passionate about trifles"? Is this the only reference to "passionate" in the proving symptoms of Bar-C? Also, excuse ignorance, where do you look up proving symtoms?
tks, rgds, ), etc. - I wonder if all this also comes into "passionate about trifles"!
Vera

Chris Gillen wrote:
The "passionate" reference I use is in the Baryta carb proving, #4
"Extremely contrary, irritable humor, passionate about trifles."

The most stunning turn around on this symptom I've seen was in a case where
two 1 and 1/2 year old boys (premature identical twins) who would not or
could not play with each other, or any other children, without becoming
extremely agitated, upset and clingy - #21 Indisposed to play, of children.
During a home consultation they would not show any curiosity or interact the
way most kids do, just fight and cry a lot. It was as if you even looked at
them the wrong way, it would set off a crying spell. The mother had recently
given birth to another baby as well, so there were 3 kids under two years of
age. It was a second marriage for the husband whose first family were all
grown, there were financial concerns, and he didn't particuarly want to be
in the position he now found himself in with 3 new children. There was a
general feeling in the home like everybody was under so much pressure and
everything needed to be hurried up lest it cause more disruption. I'd been
using Pulsatilla and then Silica in the beginning with no real results and
then moved to Baryta carb. In no time at all, the twins started playing
well and interacting with other kids at daycare. So apart from the timidity
and mistrust angle, don't forget the amazing temper tantrums they can throw
as well, maybe because of the internal or external pressures they feel
they're under.

Chris.
P.s. You can't stand smileys? Interesting, I can't stand abbreviations, like
H. for Hahnemann, or thx or U etc. Tsk!

And *I* can't stand intolerance! Grrrrr....
(haha, just kiddin'!)
Smiley face with apologies!

This is really interesting - but brings back to the question of whether the mind rubrics are only relevant when pathological , or whether they are always relevant as character pointers.
Regards,
Vera

Robert & Shannon Nelson wrote:
I wonder if this could be what was meant by the rubric
"intellectual"--being "brainy" isn't pathological--well, some might
think so (smile)--but if the intellect is engaged at the expense of
emotional and social interaction?? (I was trying to figure out *why*
that rubric is there at all...)
Shannon
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Just to add to this , I remember being taught that the "backwardness " could be any area mental, emotional or physical. When I was a student I had a patient who was a teacher but the Bar Carb came in because on an emotional level she was so immature. She still lived with her mother and her mother controlled her life in that she could not imagine going it alone. I seem to remember that David Mundy got to the remedy because she felt her hair was thin because the follicles were plugged up or something like that.(or was that another case and Thuja????)

Rochelle

There are divergent opinions on that one!
Some people prescribe only on traits etc. that are clearly and
definitely pathological, and unquestionably part of "what is to be
cured". This appears to be very in line with Hahnemann's approach, as
well as... well, I suppose most of "the old guys", wouldn't it be?
"blonde"--characterological and non-pathological traits. There are
numerous methods of case analysis...
nature of the case, the training and comfort level of the prescriber,
and what "level" or scope of the case s/he is trying to address. How's
*that* for a fuzzy answer?
)
Shannon

I am one of "the old guys" probably-

For me the guiding symptoms are the ones that are pathological-
pathological in the sense deviations from a previous state of health
in acutes... but even "friendly" or "cheerful" is pathological
sometimes there-
once again when viewed from the perspective of change from a
previous state...When you compare it with provings - in pathogenetic
provings the prover will be noting down everything that is
remarkable after taking the proving medicine ( as long as it is not
considered curative reaction ) ...- so a change from a previous
morose state to being cheerful if caused by medicine is still
guiding - as when an acute causes the patient to become cheerful .In
fact even in Organon Hahnemann explains a case where after the
simillimum and the cure- the patient became more irritable than his
previous self...

In Chronic diseases - the comparison is not with a previous state of
health usually, but leanings and attitudes that are different from
other people in a similar situation or from the species in general-
allergy to milk for example - if others can tolerate the same
without any problem then intolerance to it is an abnormality- even
here if a person is cheerful on the death of a close one ( without
having even a normal grief reaction - then it is abnormal... esp. if
there is no clear reason for it)... this is what Kent would call a
symptom of Will - where you find emotions without any reason to
explain it... whereas if there is a reason to it - for example the
person belongs to a religious group which believes in all dead
people reaching God and if this person believes in it very much -
then that could explain it and the symptom though important is not
so prominent any more- this is what Rajan Sankaran pursues by asking
the Why question...Personal Construct Psychologists use the
technique of Laddering ( Why questions) for pursuing this to find
the fundamental construct / schema that is causing this...

But as long as a person's emotional reactions are appropriate and
in touch with reality they cannot be guiding symptoms ( If they are
appropriate then they cannot be "delusions" leave alone "core
delusions" ...)

Once had a case of epilepsy of some years where loss of sleep
brought on fits... the boy in upper teens was a calm, quiet and
obedient person till a couple of doses of Lachesis put an end to his
fits... after that the boy became such a nuisance to the family- he
did not follow family rules, always returned home late, went for
late night shows with his friends ( all of this though normal are
not "good habits" by family's definitions) and the parents were very
dissatisfied with me... for curing him- what is normal or abnormal
here?
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This happens so much. I have had irate family members, who have had
their loved ones returned to them in perfect working order through
homeopathy, but because they can't 'handle' the blossoming person
become really furious and thus anti homeopathy. I've even had cases
where the allopathic drugs have virtually been forced to be retaken
Joy
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