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Re: urinary reflux

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 10:57 pm
by Shannon Nelson
It seems there would be some urine test that could indicate whether the
kidneys are emptying fully... What is it that causes (could cause)
kidney damage--if bacteria, can the urine be monitored periodically for
bacteria?
Shannon

Re: urinary reflux

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 11:01 pm
by Joy Lucas
I think the damage comes from scarring that occurs with infection -
maybe a medic on this list could say more. Don't forget the kidneys are
really small organs and do so much work, so any blight on their
function should be considered serious. Best wishes, Joy
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Re: urinary reflux

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 1:29 am
by Jean Doherty
I think full history and preparation for acute event as Joy suggests
necessary.
I wonder though would Nat Phos in say a 6x keep the urine alkaline and
thus reduce infection. Obviously if Nat Phos was in the picture it
would be reassuring. Blueberries are thought by Dr Mercola to be good
as preventative of UTIs, Jean

Re: urinary reflux

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 10:18 am
by Soroush Ebrahimi
Kidneys have no reservoir for urine, what is produced goes to the bladder!

Rgds
Soroush

Re: urinary reflux

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 3:49 pm
by Shannon Nelson
My understanding is that the infection can travel upward from bladder
to kidneys--so guarding against the abnormality in the urine should
help to protect the kidneys?
Shannon

Re: urinary reflux

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 4:15 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
Dear Shannon

I was being my autistic self and reacting to
"some urine test that could indicate whether the kidneys are emptying
fully... "
:-)

I think the test is done by using contrast medium and it shows the passage
of the material through the urinary system. But it is not like a barium meal
which is X-ray opaque. I think this stuff is Radio Active and they measure
the radio-activity build up.
The material has a short half life so with a short passage of time it has
left the body.

Indeed when there is ureter of bladder pathology, the whole of the volume
from the kidney to the bladder fills up and allows bacteria that have
travelled from urethra to the bladder to go to kidneys. So extreme hygiene
(and use of a bidet after urination) is very important as I had expressed
before.

Another source is of course micro organisms coming to the kidneys via the
blood that goes through them. But these normally react quickly when A/B are
administered.

It must be noted that the urinary system is usually sterile. But when the
micro-organisms enter the urinary tract via the urethra - because there is
little blood flow, A/Bs are not all that effective, especially as they are
also countered by the chemicals present in urine.

Rgds
Soroush