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Re: miasms - PSORA

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:09 am
by doctorleelah2h
Hi ELleen,
I'd encourage you to read the article I've written which should be
out tomorrow. I"ll post the link if you're interested. It will answer
many of the questions you're asking in your post below. There are
cases to explain the concepts more concretely.

Re: Consitutients/deficiencies - I don't see how that can help except
in terms of provings.
The general idea is that if one is eating a balanced diet,
prescribing the "consitutional" allows teh body to absorb the
required nutrients more easily.
Another thought is that if there is a deficiency, we dont' need to
worry about knowing the consitutients in plants, etc to know what
remedy is required. The only thing we have to depend on is a clear
adn accurate observations of symtpoms (especailly of the chief
complaint), its modalities and concomittants and hat itself guides us
to teh indicated remedy that will help overcome the deficiency.
remember the deficiency is usually only very MICRO doses of any
element or salt.

Anyway, hope this helps a but.
dr. Leela
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Ellen Madono" wrote:
the progression from Psora, to sycotic to syphilitic as the elements
get physically bigger on the periodic table. When an idea follows
what we know of the patterns of nature, it gains credibility. Note
that the Psoric remedies include many plants. That complicates that
idea that psora is all about inability to absorb necessary element.
had many plants analyzed for trace amounts of the elements. I don't
have it here with me in Japan, (sigh) but some plants clearly contain
elements that are not so common in other plants. I wish I had a
better idea of how to organize the information. The books just
contains breakdowns of elements in homeopathic plants remedies.
Vermeulen notes that zinc and Rhus-v are close for skin disease.
Does Rhus-v contain an unusual amount of zinc? How does one decide
what is sufficiently unusual so that element should characterize the
plant? He gives percents.
in homeopathy. Different authors do not agree about the miasmatic
character of some remedies. The notion that miasms are inherited is
difficult to substantiate in a world polluted and vaccinated.
Especially so for psora. Then further, everyone is supposed to have
psora if they have any of the other miasmatic tendencies. We
presumably will never see the patient who has no psora? How is it a
useful concept if everyone we see has it?
noting the
remedies, raises
to mineral
out the
assimilate--he
natural
dangerous to the
and
responses to acute
chronic stress
general
rather than
body
I seem to
Psora.
herpes are
far as I know
atopic eczema
clearly as any
other
all of the
their
being in part
Stages
micro organism
variety of
called them
[mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]On
that your
management" is
epidemicus), but
Hahnemann
mineral
Syphilis
epidemicus)
remedies
remedies.
maybe, but the
that
that is to
with the choie
delighted.
fact is
(more
disturbance
to a
original
selection,
already exists
proof of
a "similimum"?
but that this
because it
mixed
constitutions,
expression of
multimiasmatic
Miasmatic Disease
But at any
the
and the
happens only in
eternal laws of
another,
in the
peculiarly
maladies to
unity of
disease, because
even then
because most of
different from
to your
can only
knowledge
are many
merely a
wrote:
doesn't help
looking at
simillimum.
[mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
but the
him over
years with no
miasmatically.
that. This
psora and
predominant is to
complaint is
is latent.

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Re: miasms - PSORA

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 11:13 am
by doctorleelah2h
Ellen, sorry about the typos.

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "doctorleelah2h"
wrote:
Hi ELlen,
I'd encourage you to read the article I've written which should be
out tomorrow. I"ll post the link if you're interested. It will answer
many of the questions you're asking in your post below. There are
cases to explain the concepts more concretely.

Re: Consitutients/deficiencies - I don't see how knowing detials of
consitutients that can help except
in terms of provings.
The general idea is that if one is eating a balanced diet,
prescribing the "constitutional" allows the body to absorb the
required nutrients more easily.
Another thought is that if there is a deficiency, we dont' need to
worry about knowing the constituents in plants, etc to know what
remedy is required. The only thing we have to depend on is a clear
and accurate observation of symtpoms (especially of the chief
complaint), its modalities and concomittants and hat itself guides us
to the indicated remedy that will help overcome the deficiency.
remember the deficiency is usually only very MICRO doses of any
element or salt.

Anyway, hope this helps a bit.
dr. Leela
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "Ellen Madono" wrote:
the progression from Psora, to sycotic to syphilitic as the elements
get physically bigger on the periodic table. When an idea follows
what we know of the patterns of nature, it gains credibility. Note
that the Psoric remedies include many plants. That complicates that
idea that psora is all about inability to absorb necessary element.
had many plants analyzed for trace amounts of the elements. I don't
have it here with me in Japan, (sigh) but some plants clearly contain
elements that are not so common in other plants. I wish I had a
better idea of how to organize the information. The books just
contains breakdowns of elements in homeopathic plants remedies.
Vermeulen notes that zinc and Rhus-v are close for skin disease.
Does Rhus-v contain an unusual amount of zinc? How does one decide
what is sufficiently unusual so that element should characterize the
plant? He gives percents.
in homeopathy. Different authors do not agree about the miasmatic
character of some remedies. The notion that miasms are inherited is
difficult to substantiate in a world polluted and vaccinated.
Especially so for psora. Then further, everyone is supposed to have
psora if they have any of the other miasmatic tendencies. We
presumably will never see the patient who has no psora? How is it a
useful concept if everyone we see has it?
noting the
remedies, raises
to mineral
out the
assimilate--he
natural
dangerous to the
and
responses to acute
chronic stress
general
rather than
body
I seem to
Psora.
herpes are
far as I know
atopic eczema
clearly as any
other
all of the
their
being in part
Stages
micro organism
variety of
called them
[mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]On
that your
management" is
epidemicus), but
Hahnemann
mineral
Syphilis
epidemicus)
remedies
remedies.
maybe, but the
that
that is to
with the choie
delighted.
fact is
(more
disturbance
to a
original
selection,
already exists
proof of
a "similimum"?
but that this
because it
mixed
constitutions,
expression of
multimiasmatic
Miasmatic Disease
But at any
the
and the
happens only in
eternal laws of
another,
in the
peculiarly
maladies to
unity of
disease, because
even then
because most of
different from
to your
can only
knowledge
are many
merely a
wrote:
doesn't help
looking at
simillimum.
[mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
but the
him over
years with no
miasmatically.
that. This
psora and
predominant is to
complaint is
is latent.

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Re: miasms - PSORA

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:46 pm
by David Little
At 01:43 AM 7/15/2005, you wrote:

Hello,

The above explanation is related to the whole human condition. In the
first sentence of the preface of the Organon Hahnemann wrote that as long
as humans have existed they have been exposed individually and collectively
to diseases of moral and physical causes. This has been compounded by
generation of medical maltreatment and unhealthy trends related to rapid
civilizations. This has lead to the multiplication of the number of disease
suffered by humanity. If you are interested read these passages as this
deals with the entire human condition. This is related to GAS and the way
the stress and strain axis weakens the human organisms making it more
susceptible to disease in general. This not psora nor a miasm. These are
chronic diatheses that affect the human constitution.

Psora is not identical with the inherited and acquired constitutional
predispositions although it may play a role in its make up. There are many
more factors involved in the human constitution than psora alone. By trying
to make psora the cause of everything we lose sight of the fact that their
are potentially many inherited and acquired causes that are not psora. We
also lose sight of what psora, the skin miasma, really is. While GAS
represents the human organisms general reaction to stress. Psora is a
specific reaction dealing with the chronic affects of the suppression of
skin infections on the immune system. These are interrelated factors but
are not identical states.

The pathway in GAS is the neuro-endocrine system and the medium of
pathology is the loss of control over the pro and anti inflammatory
hormones. Psora deals with the cutaneous inflammatory barricade, humoral
resistance and the agent of pathology is the deranged antigen-antibody
axis. The chronic miasms are the source of many auto-immune diseases and
immuno-deficiency disorders which are responsible for a great number of
chronic degenerative states and idiopathic disorders. Each chronic miasms
has it own particular infectious agents and its own unique pathway of
disease. Today we are dealing with person to person transmission of psora,
TB, sycosis, syphilis, chronic hepatitis, lymphosis, HIV/AIDs as well as
zoologically transmitted miasms like lymes, yaws, malaria, etc. The
affects of these unresolved disease states are pass to the next generation.
These diseases kill and maim millions every year.

Sincerely, David Little
"It is the life-force which cures diseases because a dead man needs no more
medicines."

Samuel Hahnemann

Visit our website on Hahnemannian Homoeopathy and Cyberspace Homoeopathic
Academy at
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David Little © 2000

Re: miasms - PSORA

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2005 7:46 pm
by David Little
At 04:31 AM 7/15/2005, you wrote:

Hahnemann writings on psora, sycosis and syphilis are obviously an
early study in the constitutional affects of infections and a pilot study
of the system of mass defense and the immune system. To think that
Hahnemann and Hering were somehow ignorant of the epidemiology is a
misnomer. Hahnemann writings discuss predispositions, susceptibility and
conditioning factors as well as the stages of prodromal period, primary
symptoms, latent stages and secondary and tertiary states. He was well
aware of microorganism which he once called miasmic animalcule. In reality
the first generation postulates are clinically more accurate and useful
than its modern counterpart. To think orthodox science of today is so
advanced and the early homeopaths were primitive is putting the cart before
the horse. The idea that skin infections are constitutional in nature is
not nebulous. Nor is the idea that suppression of the lesions by topic
medicines may cause the mutation of the disordered state into more serious
internal states that appears as many differing pathological states. It is
also true that the correct homeopathic treatment of psora often causes the
reversal of symptoms that end in the organism mimicking the organ skin
eruption, which is then follow by the complete recover of health. I and
other homeopaths have witnessed this many times. This proves the connect
between Causa and the progression of symptoms.
The subject of Causa is too extensive to be reduce to any one, single
cause. Hahnemann himself wrote in the first sentence of the preface of the
Organon that as long as human being have existed they have been exposed
individually and collectively to diseases or moral and physical causes. He
explains that these disorders have become worse through generations of
maltreatment and the compounded unhealthy trend associated with
civilization. He did not say psora lies at the root of this phenomena
although it is one of the factors in the whole process.
No, that is not what Hahnemann taught in the Organon or Chronic Diseases.
The Founder taught that remedies are prescribed according to originating
causes, signs and symptoms and the attendant circumstances (refer aph 5, 6,
7, 18, 24, etc.). Such things make a difference in the selection of
remedies and case management procedures.
Psora is the inherited and acquired chronic affects of skin infections and
their suppression on the human organism. That keeps it very simple. it is
different from sycosis, TB, syphilis as well as psychological disorders,
poisons, toxins, malnutrition, accidents, over exposures, etc. When one
tries to make psora "everything" then psora become "nothing". Hahnemann may
have exaggerated the amount and importance of psora but his basic postulate
about the constitutional nature of skin infections and their potential
sequels are very valuable in their own right. This is psora.

Sincerely, David Little
---------------
"It is the life-force which cures diseases because a dead man needs no more
medicines."

Samuel Hahnemann

Visit our website on Hahnemannian Homoeopathy and Cyberspace Homoeopathic
Academy at
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David Little © 2000

Re: miasms - PSORA

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 4:21 am
by muthu kumar
David-

I have to admit that I follow Hahnemann so far but no further...
There is a limit to what even Hahnemann could have known...

I do not contradict that Hahnemann/ Hering had an idea of infection -
to the extent of calling it miasmic animalcule. But calling it a
miasmic animalcule does not mean he was an authority. What is this
animalcule? Bacteria? Virus? Scabies parasite? Or something else… to
explain what Hahnemann meant by animalcule would lead to further
hair-splitting…Knowing how computer works and posting this message
in the internet does not make me a computer scientist. He was a
master clinician and master of therapeutics.. but let us not make
him an authority of everything... he would be the last to claim
being so…

20 years back one of my favorite books was Christie's Infectious
diseases. The understanding and acumen the doctor brought to the
subject was amazing. And I learnt from this book why small pox was
called small pox when it had very large eruptions…

Let us say – even though Hahnemann had SOME understanding of
infection if I were to have a doubt about infectious diseases I
would go to Christie than to Hahnemann… but to treat it I would go
to Hahnemann..and the same way even about other medical conditions,
Hahnemann (and Hering) was an authority in Homeopathy and
homeopathic therapeutics– period. Not necessarily of medical
science / infection and all the other things under the sun.

To compare the medical knowledge of yesteryears to that of today and
claiming that some how people and processes of yesteryears were
superior is absurd. I am not saying that they were not very accurate
observers… they were.. probably an average doctor 200 years back
knew more than an average doctor today in terms of clinical
observation …but they had no way of corroborating their theories
like we can today… to say spider nevi can be caused by liver disease
by observing is different from being capable of proving that is so
by running tests…and observation is not always right…Pappworth's
Primer of Medicine which is one of the most inspiring books it has
been my fortune to come across is as good in clinical medicine as
any of the older medical men..

No doubt Galen knew that humans had brains but to say that he knew
brain the same way like neuroscientists Dr. Penfield or John Eccles-
tests my belief. And even Penfield and Eccles are not THE
authorities in Neuroscience any more…

I have no problem with Psora as a phenomenon. And even with making
it a skin infection (condition?) with constitutional ramifications…
Even I have seen skin eruptions ( not necessarily infections)
occurring in many cases after the remedy (not in all cured cases
though). I believe in such a back ground process at work.

For me psora is a chronic state of the patient which prevents a
patient from getting well from symptom-based homeopathic
prescriptions, it establishes a repetitive pattern / predisposition
which needs to be addressed for a relatively permanent cure… I do
not care if it is an infection or malabsorption or vitamin
deficiency or bowel flora change… or a mismatched vayu, pitha and
kapha...
for me it does not change the homeopathic medicine I am going to
select because I am not treating a primary skin infection /
malabsorption or deficiency…for me the so-called anti-psorics are
the medicines that have the power to break down this pattern… that
is all…

If we look back even classical homeopaths had problem in coming to
terms with what psora meant. Isn't that why HARoberts took a stab at
explaining this in modern terms? Because he had a different
explanation does not mean that he was not doing good chronic
prescribing… and this is what I meant by accepting the phenomenon
but not the explanation…

The fact that Psora still needs so much defending and explanation
itself is proof that the jury is still out…
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, David Little wrote:
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Re: miasms - PSORA

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 9:12 am
by doctorleelah2h
Dear David,
Would you be able to elaborate furthur than this statement (which
Hahenmann mentions as well) , in terms of your clincal expereince and
management of this phase.
I have a pateint with this going on right now, and a few pointers to
apply as to whether I'm on the right track in priniciple (remedy
selection, time, etc) would really help.

thanks,
D.r Leela

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, David Little wrote:
It is
also true that the correct homeopathic treatment of psora often
causes the
reversal of symptoms that end in the organism mimicking the organ skin
eruption, which is then follow by the complete recover of health. I
and
other homeopaths have witnessed this many times. This proves the
connect
between Causa and the progression of symptoms.
Sincerely, David Little
no more
Homoeopathic

Re: miasms - PSORA

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 8:36 pm
by David Little
At 07:51 AM 7/16/2005, you wrote:

Hahnemann is the Father of modern epidemiology as he published the
first coherent system of infection that included heredity, constitutional
factors, predisposition, prodrome, primary stage, latent states, and
secondary and tertiary symptoms as well as suppression, mutation and
chronic sequels. He deserves credit for this in the medical history books
but allopathic historians ignore his contribution.The presence of
microorganisms had already been confirmed by the microscope by Hahnemann's
time and there was much discussion about these discoveries in scientific
circles. The term "animalcule" was already in use for microorganisms and
Hahnemann proposed these parasites were responsible for acute and chronic
infectious diseases.. He also knew that scabies was a mite and wrote about
this in his writings. To establish these historical points is important
because some people don't realize these facts. Let's give credit where
credit is due.

A founder like Hahnemann starts an investigation and it is for the
following generations to correct his mistakes and bring the material up to
date for our times. Hahnemann did not know all the scientific details of
today but he did observe how the human organism reacted to infection very
carefully. He knew miasms were infectious diseases of common cause and
similar symptoms that affected a homogeneous group. He also put together a
special method using the group case so he could find specific genus
epidemicus remedies for their treatment. Hahnemann's teaching on the miasms
is an early study of auto-immune diseases and immuno-deficency disorders
that is much more expanded than what you find in today's pathology works.
On this basis he developed a special materia medica that is
immuno-enhancing rather than immuno suppressive. Modern medicine is long in
data and very short on practical observation and effective treatment
strategies. The whole system is based on "killing the bugs" and little
else. What has been the outcome of this? Suppression, mutation, and the
creation resistant strains and new superbugs!
Orthodox medical books offers lots of information on the various
genera and has details Hahnemann knew nothing about. I study these books
for general information but I review Hahnemann's works to understand how to
use this information properly. Orthodox books lack detailed symptomtology
as they focus mostly on pathological ultimates and don't even mention the
affects of suppression, mutation and the constitutional sequels of
incorrect \treatment. The Organon and Chronic Diseases, one the other
hand, teaches how to make a group case for studying the exact details of
the symptoms of acute and chronic miasms. *One can learn more about the
symptoms and sequels of the acute and chronic miasms and their remedies
from constructing a group anamnesis based on the symptoms of many sufferers
than by reading ALL the modern books on pathology.* That is a clinical fact!
These books are helpful for new data but what good is this
information without being guided by the vitalists philosophy? What do they
offer in the way of symptomatolgy beyond pathological signs? Do they offer
detailed mental symptoms, general symptoms, desires and aversions,
sensations, modalities, times and concomitants, etc.? NO, they do not! Do
they recognize the constitutional sequels caused by suppression? No they do
not. What do they offer for treatment? Antiboitics, antifungals, poisons
for mites, steroids for inflammation, etc! All of these are
immuno-suppressive agents that cause the pathogen to mutated while they
weaken the immune system and vitality of the patient. This may be Ok in an
emergency but does this make a safe and effective system? No it does not.
First of all, to imagine that Hahnemann and company were ignorant of
the nature of infection is wrong. That is way I wrote my posts. They
charted the conditioning factors, precursors and stages of what they were
observing quite well. They knew miasms were collective infectious diseases
of common cause and similar symptoms and developed group anamnesis for
finding specific remedies for these complaints. Orthodox texts only offer
the pathological ultimates not the true totality of the symptoms or disease
sequels experienced by patients. Hahnemann, Hering and others offered the
basic methods but it is for US to bring them up to date for our times in
accordance with clinical realities. The mechanist schools look at the outer
shell but they do not understand the inner Esse that ties it all together.
It was Hahnemann who provided the basic scheme for doing this properly.

Lets deal with the facts. Did Hahnemann know as many details about
infectious agents as we do today. No he did not. Did he develop a system of
observation and treatment this is better than what orthodox medicine has
today? YES, he did! If one uses these principles properly and brings them
up to date they are the best way to approach such disease states. That is
what I am saying. To think he was somehow too ignorant about infectious
diseases to know what he was working with is historically wrong.
When it comes to psora I am in favor of keeping it simple. I am defining
psora in accordance with Chronic Diseases. I am not making it into a total
metaphysical priori, the reason for the fall of humanity, or the cause of
all chronic diseases, etc. Psora IS the inherited and acquired affects of
suppressing primary skin infections of the skin as well secondary skin
lesions and the constitutional sequels of using such treatments. Nothing
more and nothing less. This is very profound in itself. Just this one key
can save countless persons from unneeded suffering. That is enough in itself.
Psora is not the only disease that is difficult to cure by what you
called symptom based prescriptions. One should say symptom based
prescriptions focusing only on one individual rather than symptom based
prescriptions based on a collective of study of many patients suffering the
same group disease. Why? Because psora is a collective miasms and
anti-psoric remedies found in this manner are specific for it. This is the
reason behind the failure of individual prescriptions in many chronic
degenerative diseases based on collective miasms. This should be better
understood. Why? Because the same method can be used to cure new miasms as
well as many non miasmic collective disorders.

Psora alone doesn't establish all constitutional disorders. The human
constitution establishes the constitutional nature of disease. In the
Chronic Diseases Hahnemann clearly states the inherited predisposition in
the constitution are the major conditioning factors in the development of
the symptoms of chronic diseases including psora. There are many chronic
miasms and degenerative disorders produced by other causes like continuous
emotional stress, lack of food, living in bad environments, etc. Let us
not over simplify the study of causation and the human condition,

For a remedy to be a full antipsoric it must reflect all three stages
of psora in its symptoms as reflected by a number of patients. The same may
be said of all the other chronic miasms. Remedies that only have one part
or another of a miasmic syndrome only act superficially on that part. They
cannot root out the cause and complete the cure. That is why the patient
relapses. One has to look at the nature of the disease they are treating as
there is a difference between individual and collective diseases and their
case taking methods.

Pythagoras and Hippocrates taught the primordial homeomeries, which are
the similar powers from which all phenomena is composed. These were
symbolized by the three forces (+/o/-) and the five elements (earth, water,
fire, air and ether). These archetypes form the fundamental forces like
space and time, electromagnetism, and weak and strong nuclear forces and
the DNA and its four chemicals, etc. These fundamental numbers and patterns
exist throughout nature. This is the basis of the four classical
temperaments, the choleric, phlegmatic, sanguine and melancholic and their
mixtures. These are the primary constitutional types that condition
personal reactions to stimuli. When we equate the homeomeries with the
miasms we put the cart in front of the horse. The miasms follow the
patterns of the homeomeires not the other way around.

I don't equate psora with the primordial homeomeries and other
philosophical ideas about absolute cause, etc. The homeomeries come first
then comes their related categories of cause, mental states, symptom
syndromes and miasms. Psora is not the cause of all of humanities problems.
As Hahnemann said in the first sentence of the Organon: As long as humanity
has existed it has been exposed both individually and collectively to
diseases of moral and physical causes. This situation has become worse
through maltreatment and the factors related to rapid modernization. This
process is continuing today at logarithmic rates. I advise folks to read
this passage and think it over deeply. What is going on collectively and
individual? What are the moral and physical causes? Why are we suffering
from ever increasing diseases of civilizations? This is Hahnemann's Genesis!

If one contemplates the first paragraph on the Preface to the Organon
they will learn much about Causa both individually and collectively. This
is the basis of the personal case for unique disorders affecting the
individual and the group case in collective diseases which may include
group environmental factors, group miasms, group poisoning, endemic
nutritional deficiency, etc. It is not time to ignore all this material nor
change it into something new. Hippocrates taught that natural diseases
have interdependent origins and are not often based on one single cause
alone. Some of these causes are logical and others are non linear
synchronisms. The old Asclepiad was as right then as he is now!

Psora teaches that skin disorders are constitutional in nature and
should be treated as such. The suppression of skin infections and skin
lesions produces constitutional complications and chronic sequels. The use
of topic medicine like antibiotics and steroids are counter productive in
the long run. These disorders need internal homeopathic treatment with
remedies that strengthen the system of mass defense and vitality and cure
the entire state. This is psora in a nutshell. This is the essence of what
Hahnemann taught in1828 it is more in tune with reality than what you find
in a modern text!
As I said, I believe in keeping it simple rather than making it
complex. In the Chronic Diseases Psora is the negative constitutional
affects of the suppression primary skin infections and secondary skin
diseases. This is the essence of what Hahnemann taught. What Robert's has
observed about the nutritional minerals and psora is very good. What he
says about the heavy metals and venereal disease is true. Nevertheless,
nutritional deficiency is nutritional deficiency. It is not an infectious
disease and not what Hahnemann was writing about. It can be caused by poor
diet or lack of assimilation. When it is due to lack of assimilation it
does have constitutional factors behind it. The cause of this, however, can
be due to a number of causes that may or may not include psora. Causa
shouldn't be over simplified because it is often complex rather than
singular. It is good to understand Causa (when it can be known) because
this knowledge helps us to prevent further exposures, remove obstacles to
the cure, find remedies and manage cases. When the cause is not know we
must work only by observing effects. Fortunately, homeopathy can also do
this also! Nevertheless, it is best to understand both cause and effects
when possible!
It only needs explaining when one loses sight of the fact that the
psora theory teaches that *diseases of the skin are constitutional in
nature* and must be treated as such. That is the essence of what Hahnemann
taught in the Nature of Psora found in the Chronic Diseases. When it gets
mixed up with original sin, the fall of humanity, and confused with the
primordial homeomeries, this fundamental fact gets lost. Then psora becomes
every BUT related to the suppression of skin diseases and miasmic diseases
become everything BUT the inherited and acquired affects of infections and
their maltreatment. The psora doctrine teaches that skin infections are
constitutional in nature and their suppression leads to the mutation of the
symptoms into a great number of chronic degenerative diseases called many
different names by the orthodox texts. That is the essence of what is
written in the Chronic Diseases. This alone is a grand and wonderful
contribution to the healing arts. The material on psora should be brought
up to date not ignored or change into some metaphysical priori.

What I am writing has serious research behind it and deserves much more
than the "Hahnemann didn't know it all" lecture. I never said his knowledge
was perfect nor did I imply as much. I would just like homeopaths to take a
deeper look at what Hahnemann really wrote on the subject, his place in
medical history, and what it means in its original paradigm before changing
it all into something else.

Similia MInmus
Sincerely, David Little

---------------
"It is the life-force which cures diseases because a dead man needs no more
medicines."

Samuel Hahnemann

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Re: miasms - PSORA

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2005 11:11 pm
by muthu kumar
I do not have a problem with equating Psora with suppression of skin
diseases or any disease for that matter. Neither do I question that
Hahnemann understood infection. I agree with you that Psora is only
part of a large group of factors that are responsible for slow cures
or chronicity of complaints. The question only comes when we suggest
Psora is suppressed infection. In one of my early postings I wrote
about a patient of mine who had a centipede bite for which she had
applied common sesame oil and turmeric and while treating her osteo
arthritis she had similar lesions to what she had in centipede bite.
We did not disturb this and her OA went away...

Do we truly know if she had a psoric background? THere was no
infection at that point and how do I know if she did or did not have
psoric tendencies already when she got bitten. Her getting cured of
Osteo arthritis brought out skin lesions and is Ruta which was the
one given at that time was antipsoric or not? We know the normal
human skin harbors a lot of organisms even in health and there is
always an interaction between these and us and most of us are
infected sub clinically all the time... People use so many sun
screens, powders, talcum, anitperspirants etc. Are they suppressing
these sub clinical infections or not?

The "immuno enhancing" treatment of Hahnemann is not just applicable
to his chronic antipsoric medicines... Whenever we treat any kind of
infection - even acutes- this is what we are doing...

My point is when you correct the system - what causes the specific
problem is not as important...whether it is infection or deficiency...
I have seen people becoming vitamin deficient even though they take
adequate nutrition and supplements. When the diet itself is a problem
but the person is otherwise healthy then you can supplement...this is
a social problem and not a medical one.

but not if the system is not in order and so is unable to
assimilate... this is when the system when corrected can set right
whether it is infection or deficiency and this is why hahnemann said
do not spin theories as to what the aetiology is...Sometimes the
deficiency itself could be because of infection and the infection due
to deficiency, It is then that why psora came about becomes a
chicken - egg question...

For a homeopathic diagnosis this is not important - but for us to
understand the prognosis of the case- what will happen if the case is
left untreated and treated wrongly- that is when we need to know the
aetiology...
We cannot correctly say that when a psoric "infection" took place in
any individual case but we can confidently say that the majority of
the population is affected... and even if we do not have an
antimiasmic approach and as in the case of Osteo arthritis stated
above- the correct medicine brings out any suppression whether we
classify the patient as psoric or not and since we know of the
centrifugal action of Sulphur and others like it - you follow it up
as you would any other medicinal reaction... once again I reiterate -
why suppression of skin infections alone- Disease is constitutional -
including skin infections, lesions and all that...and when you treat
any condition without considering the whole you are suppressing in a
way and this would lead to ramifications...

You said " What I am writing has serious research behind it and
deserves much more
knowledge
-

Exactly this is restating what I am saying - Hahnemann's knowledge is
not perfect as you said and that is the same as saying - "He did not
know it all"- I am an ardent follower of Hahnemann as well but that
does not mean that I am not following others... as Burnett would put
it..
--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, David Little wrote:
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Re: miasms - PSORA

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 3:46 am
by Ellen Madono
Dear Leaha,
I was looking at Jan Scholten's charts on the elemental constituents of remedies and wondering how one uses that information. I have hear Vermeulen say that for example Rhus-v contains a lot of zinc, so it makes sense that when zinc didn't work then he would try Rhus-v. I would be asking him, how much zinc is a lot since different elements appear in all plants, and some appear in most etc.
Blessings,
Ellen

Re: miasms - PSORA

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:22 am
by David Little
At 12:41 PM 7/16/2005, you wrote:

Dear Dr. Leela,

The first mention of the reversal of symptoms is found in the
theoretic part of the Chronic Diseases published in 1828. Hering then
expanded on the subject in 1845 in the preface to the American edition of
the Chronic Diseases. This lead to Kent speaking in terms of "Hering's
Laws". In Hahnemann's rendition, however, he added conditions to the
reversal of symptoms by saying that in suppression, drugging and old
one-sided local affections may not follow the strict reversal of the
timeline. In some cases, an old local affection or one-sided pathology
manifestation my not be removed until the health and vitality are restored
in most other respects. I have been such things several times. Hahnemann
even offers a special method of adjusting the dose to remove these
lingering one sided states.

The symptoms tend to "peel off" in layers that demonstrate the reversal
of the order that they developed. The most recent symptoms leave first and
the oldest symptoms last. In comes cases old suppressed symptoms my return
in the form of a mini crisis that mimics the original disease before
suppression. Old malaria fevers will appear for a short time, old
discharges will come back, an old mental symptoms or a forgotten traumas
may appear. These many not all follow the exact order due to reason's
Hahnemann mentioned but the time flow is in the general direction of
reversal from disease toward health. In this way, many of the original
causes will show themselves. An old suppressed skin or discharge will
reappear and repressed emotions will arise while awake or in a dream. This
is a natural healing crises.

The reason this happens is because it is innate in the human
constitution and temperament. Psychology works the same way as the process
of analysis usually runs in the reverse order until the causal rubrics are
uncovered. If the patient can relive the original experience in a similar
but not identical manner as the original experience their mental and
physical health improves. This is all according to homeopathic law. Most
successful psychology is based on similars will that which is based on
opposites produce repression rather than cure.

I can't comment on an individual cases because I don't know the causes,
symptoms and circumstances involved. I can only say that when the process
of healing moves from within to without, from the more important to lesser
spheres, from a above to below, from the mental to physical plane, and in
the reverse order of symptoms the case is moving in the correct direction.
When the symptoms move from without to within, from the less important to
more important spheres, from below to above, from the physical to the
mental, and new symptoms appear the case is getting worse.

Sincerely, David Little
---------------
"It is the life-force which cures diseases because a dead man needs no more
medicines."

Samuel Hahnemann

Visit our website on Hahnemannian Homoeopathy and Cyberspace Homoeopathic
Academy at
http://www.simillimum.com
David Little © 2000