Minutus

I would include, "treats OR PREVENTS"

delete, "especially"

delete, "minute" and replace with "potentised"

and change to, "is capable of, in healthy persons, producing".

Ardavan Shahrdar wrote:
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Fran Sheffield
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Dear Shannon, Luise, Margaret and all,
The problem of definition can be solved but it needs a step by step analysis.
It is first important to see what parts are not the necessary parts of the definition.
For example, is using the minute doses or potentized remedies a necessary part??
Another ambigious part is using the word 'disease'. What do we mean by 'disease' here? Conventionaly, Mumps, Parkinson's disease, Multiple sclerosis, tuberculosis, Esophageal atresia,..... are all considered as diseases. But are all of these conditioned are named in a same quality of level of meaning???
For those who try not do use the word 'disease' still the following problem exists.
The word 'Similar' is also problematic. If it has a simple meaning of 'similar', why do we need case-analysis, a kind of data processing (different types in different schools) before choosing a remedy?? Presence of data processing means that you are using a 'function' and not simply choosing a 'similar' remedy.
Let's not jump suddenly to the conclusions. It is important to first understand the state of current definition. We somehow need a hermeneutic study of the current condition. If we 'understand' the current condition, the new definition will itself bloom in our mind.
Thanks for participation in this discussion!
Regards,
Ardavan

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i like the sound of your changes. they are much more focused
and the language is better clipped, removing the 'fuzziness'
of the original. that fuzziness lends an unreal affect to the
ordinal definition.
tanya
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And on looking at it again, not even the potentised is needed.

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Fran Sheffield
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Tanya Marquette wrote:
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'a system of medical practice that treats a set of mental, emotional and physical symptoms of the patient by the administration of potentised doses of a remedy that has been shown to be capable of producing a similar set of symptoms in the healthy volunteers as those being experienced by patient'.

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Soroush
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Hi Ardavan,
Yes - neither of these adjectives are helpful and can be misleading.
What about the any state of dis-ease - the state of not being at ease in part or in whole. Also, checking dictionaries, I think their definitions generally encompass the homeopathic concept of disease. It is the common allopathic concept that is too limiting and needs to be corrected.
I am confused on what you mean here. On looking at dictionary definitions, again, I think "similar" is appropriate. For example, definitions generally talk about, "showing resemblance in qualities, characteristics, or appearance." We need case analyses and a form of data-processing to compare and contrast two things to see if there is a degree of similarity. How else would you find the similar?
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OK Fran
How about
'a system of medical practice that treats a set of mental, emotional and physical symptoms of the individual patient by the administration of doses of a remedy that has been shown to be capable of producing a similar set of symptoms in the healthy volunteers as those being experienced by patient'.

Regards

Soroush
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Soroush wrote:

'a system of medical practice that treats a set of mental, emotional and physical symptoms of the individual patient by the administration of doses of a remedy that has been shown to be capable of producing a similar set of symptoms in the healthy volunteers as those being experienced by patient'.
However, many of our remedy rubrics come from toxic overdose symptoms

And

Healthy volunteers – maybe not quite correct – healthy being a matter of relativity, and volunteer maybe being more info than is required.

A lot of remedies are also used based on clinical evidence/results – so.........
Robyn
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Hi Ardavan et al,

One problem that should be addressed first of all is whether we want
the entry to be based on Hahnemann or whether we want it to be based
on to-day's various methods of prescribing.

IMO there should be two entries, one covering the Hahnemann
instructions, one the modern. (Hahnemann's instructions also go way
beyond the entry quoted below)
cut
This problem exist only in English. Perhaps also in other languages,
not however in German.

In German the expression is "Krankheit", which means "illness".

A long long time there was a long discussion on then Lyghtforce where
I argued that the translation of Krankheit into disease had presented
problems. You are the first one who agrees:-)

Regards

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The problem Robin is that how short or long do we want to take it?
Also the point is that the definition below describes the way Homeopathy was discovered.
(When I am asked to give a talk on Homoeopathy, I was explain how Hn discovered Hom and it seems to make it easier to understand for people.
What various practitioners (covering the elements that you have raised) brought into it remains a debating point

Regards

Soroush