Minutus

No, I'm in US, tho have gotten remedies from Helios and was enchanted
at the range of choices they offer! I usually buy from
Hahnemann, who offer potencies thru 30c on, er, medium-sized globules.
I forget what number size they call them, but it's the same as I've
gotten from Boiron and Standard... and higher potencies in poppy-seed
sized ones. But I've also seen it done *all* sorts of other ways! I
have seen no significant difference in effect between one pillule and
several, nor between a single poppy-seed pill and a single larger one.

I making LMs it matters simply because part of the dilution process
(which determines the potency) involves putting a single medicated
poppy-seed sized pellet into a specified amount of diluent. If a
different-sized pill is used, the dilution ratio will be changed--which
would *not* mean that the rx would not work just fine, bu lessens the
standardization and precision (what you have won't *really* be an LM,
quite). In a pinch I wouldn't (personally) worry about it, but IMO
it's useful to aim for that standardized starting point when feasible!

But for buying a prepared remedy, I can't see any basis for choosing
one size over another other than aesthetics or convenience--but I'll be
interested to hear if anyone has further thoughts!

Best,
Shannon

At 7:16 PM +0100 2/17/05, Marleen wrote:

Easy to tell. Just line 10 up and measure them in millimeters!!!
Because part of the *manufacture* of the remedy had to do with a
certain number of granule (500) absorbing one drop of the potency.
Therefore, each granule contains 1/500 of a drop. When mixed with 100
drops of alcohol, the dilution then becomes 1/50,000.
Yes.
POPPY SIZED: Take 10 poppyseeds and line them up. I did. Somewhere
between 8.9 and 9.5 mm. So a true poppy-seed granule is a bit smaller
the a #10.

If the LM is provided as anything larger than a #10 it cannot produce
a higher LM potency.
If the pharmacy wants to provide a centesimal potency on larger
granules-- no problem.

JW

At 11:08 PM -0500 2/16/05, Homeopathinmn@aol.com wrote:
Recall that Hahnemann suggested that the granules come from a
"confectioner". As such they would be made of *sucrose*. I have
NEVER seem granules made from lactose-- although I have seen
*tablets* made from lactose.
The granules we get are sucrose-- pure cane sugar that is liquified
and then sprayed onto a "starter" (much like a pearl is built around
a grain of sand) in large, rotating drums. The longer the process,
the large the granule.

We (the community) has a problem because we call "blanks" "sac lac"
when they generally aren't.
We forget that many of the older physicians used to deliver the dose
in powdered milk-sugar-- a single medicated *sucrose* granule was
placed in about 1/2 teaspoon of milk-sugar, and wrapped into a
"bindle." The patient merely had to open the folded paper and place
the dose on their tongue.
Many physicians used placebos-- and often instructed to patient to
take a dose a day from the numbered bindles (see my book on how to
fold your own) and THEN they would tell the pharmacy to give the
patient 30 packs, number 1-30, with a "live dose" in pack number 5.

JW

At 10:15 AM +0100 2/22/05, Marleen wrote:

I will try to find out here in NZ what the European numbering system
is. I THINK it might have to do with volume per kilo or some such
thing.

JW

I can contact UNDA myself because they have a factory in Belgium and in
Canada too i believe,
but im not sure if they will provide me with answers, im not a doctor so
maybe they will not bother

but if you find out something i will be happy to receive info yes thanks

Marleen

So all those persons using lactose tablets aren't homeopaths because
they're not using homeopathy because it's not doing what Hahnemann said
OH NO!



Simon
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The bottom line, tho, is that for practical purposes other than
manufacture of LMs, it doesn't matter! You may use Dolisos with a
clear conscience.

Shannon

At 11:42 AM +0100 2/22/05, Marleen wrote:

I will keep looking.
As far as I can tell, the old system (length of 10 granules in mm)
made all the sense in the world.
I have asked my local pharmacy here in NZ to tell me, and they are
checking. All they could say is that the most used granule measures
22-28 per gram and is called a number 6-- which makes NO sense at
all!!

More to come.

JW

Now hang on a mo;, surely if we accept terms like 'i's a short step'
etc then that can apply that to ANYTHING H said, which pretty much
validates all those who would alter his methods?
When does it change from a small step to a step too far?

Methinks we need some definitions of what constitutes a small step!

Simon
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