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Shannon Nelson
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Re: ordering remedies

Post by Shannon Nelson »

No, I'm in US, tho have gotten remedies from Helios and was enchanted
at the range of choices they offer! :-) I usually buy from
Hahnemann, who offer potencies thru 30c on, er, medium-sized globules.
I forget what number size they call them, but it's the same as I've
gotten from Boiron and Standard... and higher potencies in poppy-seed
sized ones. But I've also seen it done *all* sorts of other ways! I
have seen no significant difference in effect between one pillule and
several, nor between a single poppy-seed pill and a single larger one.

I making LMs it matters simply because part of the dilution process
(which determines the potency) involves putting a single medicated
poppy-seed sized pellet into a specified amount of diluent. If a
different-sized pill is used, the dilution ratio will be changed--which
would *not* mean that the rx would not work just fine, bu lessens the
standardization and precision (what you have won't *really* be an LM,
quite). In a pinch I wouldn't (personally) worry about it, but IMO
it's useful to aim for that standardized starting point when feasible!

But for buying a prepared remedy, I can't see any basis for choosing
one size over another other than aesthetics or convenience--but I'll be
interested to hear if anyone has further thoughts!

Best,
Shannon


Julian Winston
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Re: ordering remedies

Post by Julian Winston »

At 7:16 PM +0100 2/17/05, Marleen wrote:

Easy to tell. Just line 10 up and measure them in millimeters!!!
Because part of the *manufacture* of the remedy had to do with a
certain number of granule (500) absorbing one drop of the potency.
Therefore, each granule contains 1/500 of a drop. When mixed with 100
drops of alcohol, the dilution then becomes 1/50,000.
Yes.
POPPY SIZED: Take 10 poppyseeds and line them up. I did. Somewhere
between 8.9 and 9.5 mm. So a true poppy-seed granule is a bit smaller
the a #10.

If the LM is provided as anything larger than a #10 it cannot produce
a higher LM potency.
If the pharmacy wants to provide a centesimal potency on larger
granules-- no problem.

JW


Julian Winston
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Re: ordering remedies

Post by Julian Winston »

At 11:08 PM -0500 2/16/05, Homeopathinmn@aol.com wrote:
Recall that Hahnemann suggested that the granules come from a
"confectioner". As such they would be made of *sucrose*. I have
NEVER seem granules made from lactose-- although I have seen
*tablets* made from lactose.
The granules we get are sucrose-- pure cane sugar that is liquified
and then sprayed onto a "starter" (much like a pearl is built around
a grain of sand) in large, rotating drums. The longer the process,
the large the granule.

We (the community) has a problem because we call "blanks" "sac lac"
when they generally aren't.
We forget that many of the older physicians used to deliver the dose
in powdered milk-sugar-- a single medicated *sucrose* granule was
placed in about 1/2 teaspoon of milk-sugar, and wrapped into a
"bindle." The patient merely had to open the folded paper and place
the dose on their tongue.
Many physicians used placebos-- and often instructed to patient to
take a dose a day from the numbered bindles (see my book on how to
fold your own) and THEN they would tell the pharmacy to give the
patient 30 packs, number 1-30, with a "live dose" in pack number 5.

JW


Julian Winston
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Re: ordering remedies

Post by Julian Winston »

At 10:15 AM +0100 2/22/05, Marleen wrote:

I will try to find out here in NZ what the European numbering system
is. I THINK it might have to do with volume per kilo or some such
thing.

JW


Marleen
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Re: ordering remedies

Post by Marleen »

I can contact UNDA myself because they have a factory in Belgium and in
Canada too i believe,
but im not sure if they will provide me with answers, im not a doctor so
maybe they will not bother

but if you find out something i will be happy to receive info yes thanks

Marleen


Simon King LCPH MARH
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Re: ordering remedies

Post by Simon King LCPH MARH »

So all those persons using lactose tablets aren't homeopaths because
they're not using homeopathy because it's not doing what Hahnemann said
OH NO!

:-)

Simon
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Shannon Nelson
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Re: ordering remedies

Post by Shannon Nelson »

The bottom line, tho, is that for practical purposes other than
manufacture of LMs, it doesn't matter! You may use Dolisos with a
clear conscience.
:-)
Shannon


Julian Winston
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Re: ordering remedies

Post by Julian Winston »

At 11:42 AM +0100 2/22/05, Marleen wrote:

I will keep looking.
As far as I can tell, the old system (length of 10 granules in mm)
made all the sense in the world.
I have asked my local pharmacy here in NZ to tell me, and they are
checking. All they could say is that the most used granule measures
22-28 per gram and is called a number 6-- which makes NO sense at
all!!

More to come.

JW


Simon King LCPH MARH
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Re: ordering remedies

Post by Simon King LCPH MARH »

Now hang on a mo;, surely if we accept terms like 'i's a short step'
etc then that can apply that to ANYTHING H said, which pretty much
validates all those who would alter his methods?
When does it change from a small step to a step too far?

Methinks we need some definitions of what constitutes a small step!

Simon
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