Minutus

Correction: I meant 1850, not 1950.

Roger
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2014 19:13:15 -0700
Subject: [Minutus] History of Homeopathy
I will review all of the "homeopaths" that I have gone to over the past 45 years to see if they said anything about diet.

1969 -- Dr. Fatheringham, old school real deal homeopath. Not one word about diet. He didn't even say whether I should come back or not.

1970 -- Old 4 fingered guy on Telegraph Avenue, old school real deal homeopath. Not one word about diet.

Early 1970's -- Dr. Roger Morrison. Not one word about diet. Dr. Morrison had a little write-up about what we should avoid before and after treatment, like strong smells, dental work, camphor, etc., but it did not include anything about any food. I was curious why only he mentioned dental work, camphor, etc, and no one else did.

Mid-1970's -- Dr. Robert Gorter. A truly great healer. He had plenty to say about food, but not in regard to his anthroposophical remedies, and nothing about carbs or wheat

1991 -- Guy using computer, also did traditional Chinese medicine. Not one word about diet.

2000 to present -- Dr. Mark Cooper, naturopathic doctor. Not one word about diet, and he should have known better.

2013 -- lady in Monument. Definitely new school homeopath. She is the only one who insisted upon a complete diet write-up.

I may have missed a few.

You could say that they were not all real homeopaths, but that is NOT what the customers see. The customers see "Homeopath". The first two were as real as they get, and they said absolutely nothing whatsoever about diet. 1991 was clearly not a certified homeopath, but he healed my wife of endometriosis (versus a radical hysterectomy recommended by the conventional medical moron). Mark Cooper, who I adore, should have known better. I had to figure it out all by myself. And only the lady in Monument, Colorado got it right.

So, I say that Irene and others here are living on a little island and aren't seeing even the whole of the homeopathic world, let alone the whole of the whole world. You'all are being defensive, but that is not what the customer cares about. The customer want results. You might personally be perfect with regard to your practice, but if homeopathy as a whole does not address the maintaining factors of a processed food diet and other maintaining factors, then you won't get as many good results as the homeopaths of 1950 got.

Roger Bird

"I am being real" is the phrase that people always use when they are unable to grasp the other person's viewpoint. I understand your viewpoint about the AMA scum-bags etc.; I have appreciated this viewpoint for perhaps 20 years since I read Divided Legacy, although it has been an under-current for much longer than the 45 years I have been a homeopathy supporter. Divided Legacy merely connected the dots for me with regard to homeopathy and gave me more juice to abhor conventional medicine.

But I have also known that the Divided Legacy perspective is only part of the picture. I am giving you the perspective of how the customer reacts to events concerning homeopathy, but you are unable to see it. So, I think that we should just drop this subject.

Paradigm shifting nimbleness is a great skill, one necessary to be able to appreciate new and different perspectives. Of course it is not binary; it is analog. Some people are better at it than other people. It is why I knew that cold fusion was real in October of 2011; someday you and everyone else in the world will also know that it is real. Your inability to paradigm shift is the reason why you get into fights so often in this forum. As long as you and I are on the same paradigm page, you and I get along great and I respect your knowledge. As soon as I introduce a new and different perspective, you flip out and start putting me and my viewpoint down.

Roger Bird
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 04:17:32 -0800
Subject: Re: [Minutus] History of Homeopathy
No I am being real.

Let's skip the persoal comments okay?
AS you have explained it, you are giving me your personal view as a customer, and possibly the personal view of your sister, but you have ane mentioned no other experience as a customer to go by. So your sample size is two customers.

Compare with a homeopath who sees two new customers a week, starting 1984 and going up to the present time. That is a sample size of 3,224 customers.

And you want us to belive the view of 2 customers over the views of 3224 customers.
Sorry but your experience whatever it is is no more than anecdotal. It does not come anywhere nbear statistical significance.
So no, I do not find your isolated and unsubstantiated 0.062% of views a credible representation of homeopathy customers.
New and different perspectives are my stock in trade, as you shoud know. Develiping a totally new system that is genetics based is just one example, so sheath your inappropriate arrows and cease the personal attacks.
Your views need to be real and relevant for the homeopathy customer population, and yours in this case, have not been shown to be so.

YOUR views are valid for you, but not for every homeopathy customer.

You are simply not in a position to speak on behalf of a significant number of customers or potential customers. You apprently froget that someone in business sees many more cutomers than yourself and your sister, and is in a better position to judge whether the customers exist, are plentiful and are happy or not.

The fact that the American public is documneted to spend more money on homeopathy than on western medicine - despite the latter being far more expensive - says a lot. You have no statistics to counter that.

Namaste,
Irene
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