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Re: data base?

Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 1:32 am
by Homoeopathic Help Line
All this reminds me of what I concluded years ago when these machines, and for that matter these programmes, started pouring in.
My conclusion was and is that there must always be a man / woman behind and before a machine.
A machine can be a mean but can never be an end.
Syed Mohsin Rizvi
http://www.homoeohelpline.netfirms.com
Rosemary C Hyde PhD wrote:
This discussion is reminding me of when I got my first Radar program, after a little over a year of homeopathic training. I was ecstatic, thinking my prescribing would suddenly, miraculously, get much more accurate. I plugged in rubrics for the first case, and the remedies that came up had nothing to do with the patient's illness. It was the most beautiful -- and humbling -- illustration of the GIGO (garbage-in-garbage-out) principle I'd ever seen. So it was back to the books and classes for a few more years! :-)))

The programs provide a fantastic library of homeopathic writings -- from many more sources than anyone -- well maybe not Julian :-) -- is likely to have on his or her bookshelves. The repertorization part does speed up searches for specific details and is marvelous for seeing the outcome of various combinations of rubrics. But you still need to find the exact description of the symptoms in Materia Medica, and what you put into the repertorization still works better or worse depending on your skill in picking symptoms: central to the case, relatively unusual, and solid, well-developed repertory rubrics.

Often, I find with the Repertory software that less is MUCH more. If I can find two relatively unusual symptoms that are important in a case, and combine them in the software, it gives me a clue for a relatively unknown remedy that can be right on -- where none of the polychrests or well known remedies seems to fit exactly.

Rosemary

Re: data base?

Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:47 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
Dear Nancy

Reflecting back on exchanges over this issue, I now understand the reasons
behind your request.

I would like to use the Organon to clarify what is needed to be a GOOD
homoeopath: (Aph 2)

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If the physician clearly perceives what is to be cured in diseases, that is
to say, in every individual case of disease (knowledge of disease,
indication), if he clearly perceives what is curative in medicines, that is
to say, in each individual medicine (knowledge of medical powers), and if he
knows how to adapt, according to clearly defined principles, what is
curative in medicines to what he has discovered to be undoubtedly morbid in
the patient, so that the recovery must ensue - to adapt it, as well in
respect to the suitability of the medicine most appropriate according to its
mode of action to the case before him (choice of the remedy, the medicine
indicated), as also in respect to the exact mode of preparation and quantity
of it required (proper dose), and the proper period for repeating the
dose; - if, finally, he knows the obstacles to recovery in each case and is
aware how to remove them, so that the restoration may be permanent, then he
understands how to treat judiciously and rationally, and he is a true
practitioner of the healing art.
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So he has to understand
WHAT NEEDS TO BE CURED
WHAT CAN CURE IT (Knowledge of the full power of the remedies)
HOW TO SELECT, PREPARE ADMINISTER AND REPEAT THE REMEDY
HOW TO REMOVE ANY OBSTACLES

Most software are NOT complete.
They are designed so that all remedies supposedly exhibiting a particular
symptom are listed, eg HEAD, PERSPIRATION
But we often find that there are omissions.
This makes the computerised remedy selection not to be 100% reliable.

To become a true practitioner of the healing art as he say, would take years
of hard work and study. As has been implied, it needs good training to be
able to discern what needs to be cured in each case and just putting all the
available information irrespective of immediate relevancy, will not lead to
the selection of the correct remedy whether you do it manually or by
computer.

I hope all goes well with your child.

Soroush
Message: 15
Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 06:48:21 -0500
From: Nancy Dwyer
Subject: data base?
I am new to this group and to homeopathy. Is there a ocmputer data base
that practitioners typically plug symptoms into to assist them in
determining the appropriate remedy?
Thanks.
Nancy