online case BST/Nov.01

[Beverly Shamon]

Thankyou for your advice Piet, I appreciate it. i will look at Med.

Beverly Shamon-Turner

[Phosphor]

why do you regad this as a symptom? It's a normal state of mind - for
intuitive people. You could take this as a symptom if she sudenly started
getting strange premonitions.

Andrew

[Phosphor]

Piet said:
challenge

Why do you regard this as the key? We should first try to see if there is
any peculiar symptom reaction which is indicative of the 'signature' of the
vital force.
This feeling as described is perfectly typical of anyone undergoing a long
series of trials and tribulations. probably half the world would think
similar.

Andrew

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear Wendy

I agree with you.

Using the same concept, I once managed to work out the rx for a pt pure
concentrating on their stool!

But I feel it needs first hand interaction!
Rgds
Soroush

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

This sx registered with me too - I got a feeling that the pt was in some
despair!
If so, it needs to be explored.

Soroush

[Piet Guijt]

Soroush, Andrew,

You can hide to say there is't information enough.
I think there is.
But have you checked the possibility of Med?
What about the predominating miasm.?
A confusion picture can be an indication of a nosode, remember?
After that I'm willing to give a more detailed explanation.

Piet

[Joy Lucas]

>I think some of these points are very interesting. We should be prescribing on
pathology - mental, emotional and physical - we do not prescribe on
'healthy' symptoms. So intuitive is a positive state unless, as andrew says,
she is 'ill' from being intuitive, i.e this is out of proportion. If that is
the case it then becomes an important symptom.

However the 'despair' that has been mentioned in this case does appear to be
out of proportion and possibly directly related to the clients emotional
history and therefore her dis-ease in the present. I personally feel that
this is a symptom to be included in the whole symptom picture which will be
prescribed on.

When we describe someone vis a vis remedy pictures we often make the mistake
of giving too much importance to 'normal' states of being. I think this can
help us to learn about the remedy picture - like keynotes - but we must
stick to WHAT NEEDS TO BE CURED.

Best wishes, Joy Lucas

[Phosphor]

prescribing on
says,
is
i would put it, in fact i did put it, as being intuitive as a result of
being ill. if someone gets premonitions for the first time after being ill
with a fever, you can take that as a symptom. For others, premonitions,
visions etc are perfectly normal, even if they seem bizarre to us.

Andrew

[Phosphor]

Piet said

Suroush's complaint not mine.

yes i would look at sycosis also.

yes. but here it is more the lack of clear symiptoms rather than
contradicting symptoms. At this stage i would consider trying med by
default.

We're listening.

Andrew

[Piet Guijt]

Joy Lucas wrote

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Dear Joy, Beverly, all,

First I like to state that one aspect is taken out of my explanation, to
start a discussion on.
I don't approve on this, our first goal should be to help Beverly and her
patient, after that we can discuss about the followed method etc.
I don't think people that had no contribution to solve this case, are in the
position to be the first to say how it should be done.
Please say why a suggested remedy can't be correct, compare Materia medica
and case!

Ok,
Lets take a more detailed look:

"Patient said something along the lines of 'wonders how long
they can go on'. Seems to be finding the years of stress and 'swimming
against the tide' overwhelming to the point where their love for a challenge
is being overcome by the daily grind of just putting one foot after the
other to go on"

Is this normal, ? Maybe, but It shows something of the dis-ease.
I tells something about the former state (love for a challenge)
and present state (just putting one foot after the
other to go on)"

What does it say: 'The complaints are fixing me, and I don't like that, but
I try to keep moving, I don't give up'

An observation is no observation until it is confirmed!

"Feeling of uncertainty that no matter what they do things may never be
better than scraping through
financially"

Again the fixed situation and the trying to keep on going (fighting)
element).

"This has caused problems with some remainig members of family of origin who
finding fault and have a
pattern of control into which she refuses to buy any longer"

Again the feeling of being fixed and not willing to accept this.
Here we also see: Sensitive, reprimands, criticism, to

The observation that this a main 'Sycotic' case is confirmed.
You have to be blind anyway not to see this, the other symptoms show it also
very clear:
Asthma, pneumonia, bronchitis, cough and cold. Agg from damp, humid
atmosphere (living barometer), Fixed symptoms( hard inflexible, like a lump
of concrete) Inferiority feeling, Hyper reactions. (see Miasmatic diagnosis
by S.K. Banerjea).

Now lets look at an other aspect of the case:

"had to cut off emotional feelings to survive situations"
"Now allowing the validity of their feelings"
"I sense she does not easily feel part of what is going on"

Confusion, identity, as to his
Delusion, far off.
Unreal, everything seems
Dullness, understands questions only after repeating

Synoptic Materia Medica F. Vermeulen on Med: Withdrawal from outer world in
to inner dream world.
(History of being attracted to things/places that are very different to the
sphere in which they live)
And this aspect:

"depressed [slight] in windy weather. Feels it is foreboding. Cannot control
possible consequences [like a raging sea]."

Again: needs to be in control (not limited, fixed) to anticipate: Fear of
Misfortune. Ailments from anticipation.

Sankaran:
Med is a nosode it represents the heart of the sycotic miasm. The main
feeling of the sycotic miasm is:
"I am OK as long as my weakness is covered up. I know my weakness is not
fatal to me, it is not the end. But if it is exposed, I will be criticized,
I will lose a lot, people will take advantage of me and my position will
come down. Therefore, I must do all I can to see that this weakness is not
exposed. I may have to be overactive in the opposite direction as a result"
The fear of being exposed in Med is seen in its fears an anxieties. The
person is claivoant and fears misfortune, always anticipating that something
will happen.
In this state of intellect, this dreamy state he finds that things that he
is familiar with look unfamiliar.
Med is unwilling to take up responsibilities, and has a non-committal
stance, he feels that if he commits and than is unable to fulfil that
commitment, his weakness will be exposed.

Grandgeorge;
Med tries to control time (time is money). These individuals are constantly
projecting in to the future.
Faced with the in instability of the passage of time, Med tries to control
it from downstream, but suddenly has no more control of the present!

Synoptic Materia Medica F. Vermeulen:
Always rushing on and ANTICIPATING.
Everything seems unreal, as if in a dream. Feels FAR OFF. Confusion as to
his identity. Sensation of unbearible inner EMPTINESS. Sensation of being
superfluous or rejected. Delusion he is doomed. All resulting in efforts to
escape.
Notes in my synoptic
The core of Med is emotion and relationship
The Med individual is extreme perceptive, intuitive, and emotional.
The mentioned text was for me really the key, I didn't have a clue yet, but
when I read this almost last sentence, I thought he this could be Med, and
so I checked it with the rest.
So when I see things like; 'Night people', 'very Intuitive' I'm very glad
to have those confirmations.
Don't turn it the other way around please.

I think I gave a more detailed explanation of my way of thinking.
I hope this will help Beverly in understanding her patient.

kind regards,

Piet Guijt