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Re: homeo vaccinations

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 9:58 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
Hn was not a prophet of God - He was not a Ma'asoom either!!

He was a scientist - a very good one at that. He made experiments and
worked on the basis of results.

The early result of vaccination were good. But you see in Kent's Rep under
Gens you have VACCINOSIS!!

And Compton Burnett published his book about the aftermath of Smallpox
vaccine in 1887 (?).

So we have known about the problems for a long time.

Also Hn changed his mind - just see what he crossed out in Org 5 to make it
Org 6!!

I would not vaccinate!!!

Soroush

Re: homeo vaccinations

Posted: Sun Oct 14, 2001 10:09 pm
by Phosphor
Sourash said:
become

do you have any evidence to back this up, or is this pure speculation on
your part?

Andrew

Re: homeo vaccinations

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 12:08 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
With a good VF and little susceptibility why should the child get infected.
And even if they do, it is easy to get rid of it.

Evidence is based on teaching and experience of masters.

Rgds
Soroush

Re: homeo vaccinations

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 12:27 pm
by Joy Lucas
Hi, and may I add.......yes I agree with Soroush. Experience counts for so
much. Our clients/patients are very important - this is how we become
good/better at what we do - they are our evidence, whether successfully
treated or not (and we all have failures). Homeopathy is only as good as the
practitioner, and I like to think that any condition can be treated. Cases
that have a fundamentally strong constitution are, in my experience, much
easier to treat. If a case is well taken, and in the case of a child the
parents and even grandparents information is also important, then you will
have markers as to the susceptibility of the child. But in the end you treat
the individual and the totality of the symptoms. What more should you do?
Best wishes, keep smiling. Joy Lucas.
on 15/10/01 9:42 am, Finrod at finrod@webstar.co.uk wrote:

Re: homeo vaccinations

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 12:32 pm
by Farbod Rahnama
Dear Soroush
I hope you are well.
Offcourse with a good VF susceptibility is low and offcourse the risk of infecting will decrease but not as low as zero. Supposed that your patient and his parents and his grandparents and etc. etc. have got their homoeopathic constitutional remedies. Now if your patient ingest a lot of polio virus do you guarantee that he wouldnt infected with polio? I dont. What do you think?
Regards
Farbod

Re: homeo vaccinations

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 12:38 pm
by Soroush Ebrahimi
Firstly you must realise that these germs and virus are around us all the
time.

Swab any group's throat and you will find well over 10% are carrying
Meningitis!

You only succumb to infection when your defences are down!

NOTHING is 100% guaranteeable! Not even insurance companies!!

But we know with high certainty that with homeopathy - providing the patient
has had good homeopathic treatment in the past we can - with God's grace -
heal and cure.

Rgds
Soroush

Re: homeo vaccinations

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 1:36 pm
by Phosphor
yes true. can you quote the relevant passage in the Organon which suports
the idea of prophylaxis by the constitutional remedy?

thanks
Andrew

Re: homeo vaccinations

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 2:06 pm
by Joy Lucas
Hi Andrew, direction of cure from within - outwards, from above - downwards.
If someone has been treated constitutionally and correctly they are on their
way to good health for as long as the Rx is working. Aggravations, if they
occur, can be dealt with if neccessary. If the Rx is correct it is hard to
imagine a life threatening disease entering the vital force, minor illness
or acutes are very likely. So the correct constitutional Rx is prophylactic.
I don't have my organon at hand at the moment - this is such the basis of
homeopathy I can hardly believe the request to prove it. Best wishes, Joy
Lucas
on 15/10/01 7:37 pm, Phosphor at phosphor@hotkey.net.au wrote:

Re: homeo vaccinations

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 2:38 pm
by Phosphor
So the correct constitutional Rx is prophylactic.

while the question was directed to Sourash, i am interested to know if
anyone else can come up with the relevant passage from the Organon which
supports this assertion.

Andrew

Re: homeo vaccinations

Posted: Mon Oct 15, 2001 2:55 pm
by Joy Lucas
Dear Andrew I am not sure I like the way you "edit" replies or contributions
but yes the correct Rx (and the correct management of a case) will be the
measure necessary to preserve health and to prevent disease, i.e.
prophylaxis. Joy Lucas RSHom
on 15/10/01 8:12 pm, Phosphor at phosphor@hotkey.net.au wrote: