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APEX PRECITECH
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Re: The man who thinks he is dying

Post by APEX PRECITECH »

Dear VT,
Also,
Death, conviction of (pg 30, Knerr's rep)
Ars h, bell, 3 canth,2coff, 3 cup ac,3 phyt,2 psor,3
thuya
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vtyekkirala
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Re: The man who thinks he is dying

Post by vtyekkirala »

Dear JV,

In Synthesis, there are nearly 2 pages of sub-rubrics
under Death- presentiment of. Of all the rubrics I chose that
one because it covers both polarities of Death and the
sexual sphere. In this case(85 % prostate removed) there is every
possibility of the pt suffering real/imaginary impotency which leads to
a variety of masks which inturn leads to the death wish
thus completing the cycle of agn. Of course the pt may
protest that he is not sexually active and hence it matters not for him.
I must confess that I chose the rubric because it contains agn, my
favourite remedy for such cases.
regards,
V.T.Yekkirala.


Shannon Nelson
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Re: The man who thinks he is dying

Post by Shannon Nelson »

VTY,

When you say "my favorite remedy for such cases", do you mean cases of
prostate malignancy, or that sort of mental state, or another?

Thankyou!
Shannon
on 5/14/04 10:37 AM, vtyekkirala at vtyekkirala@satyam.net.in wrote:


Rochelle
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Re: The man who thinks he is dying

Post by Rochelle »

Thanks for the rubric. I found all these Rx!!

Regards
Rochelle

RU, Mind; death; conviction of: (see delusions, imaginations; die; time has come to:), acon[1](26), agn[1](54), alum-p[1](58), apis[1](54), arn[1](54), ars[1](1), ars-h[1](54), bapt[1](122), bell[1](54), camph[1](54), canth[3](54), coff[3](54), coff-t[1](54), croc[1](54), cupr-acet[3](54), hydr[1](137), kali-ar[1](58), kali-fcy[1](36), lac-d[1](8), lach[1](54), merc[1](54), mosch[1](26), ox-ac[1](54), phos[1](54), phyt[3](54), plat[1](54), psor[3](54), puls[1](54), succ[1](194), thuj[3](54)

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Rochelle
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Re: The man who thinks he is dying

Post by Rochelle »

All I know is that he said that the operation was entirely successful. I asked about incontinence but didn't about his sexual function. I don't know if he will come and see me again and I don't feel that this is a question I can ask him over the phone. However I may be able to ask his poor suffering wife!!

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Rochelle
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Re: The man who thinks he is dying

Post by Rochelle »

Never Been Well Since

Prostate Specific Antigen

Regards
Rochelle
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Julian Winston
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Re: The man who thinks he is dying

Post by Julian Winston »

At 2:57 PM +0100 5/14/04, J.VENKATA SUBRAMANIAN wrote:

Never been well since
Prostate specific anitgen

PSA is determined by a blood test. "Normal" is the range of 0
(unlikely) to 3 or 4. Higher than that could indicate either a
swollen prostate or prostate cancer. Older men usually have a PSA at
the higher range. A PSA of over 4 would be an indication that
something MIGHT be amiss and should be further investigated. A PSA of
20-30 would be a strong indication of prostate cancer.

JW


Toni-Ann Trevino
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Re: The man who thinks he is dying

Post by Toni-Ann Trevino »

Wouldn't this fall into a category such as NBWS (Ailments from) bad news?
I'm not sure I understand the concept of NBWS PSA. Sure, I know what PSA
is, but NBWS prostate specific antigen? Hmmm. I think this warrants a look
at Ailments from ordeals, or Ailments from bad news, or even Ailments from
fright, etc.
Toni


Robyn
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Re: The man who thinks he is dying

Post by Robyn »

Rochelle

You and others have had good suggestions so far. If I may contribute some
thoughts!

Your case has reminded me of an experience I had about 10 yrs ago -
When I worked in a general hospital on the psych ward as a psychologist and
before studying Homoeopathy, I was asked to attend to a gentleman who would
have been in his sixties who had resisted all their attempts at treatment.
They had tried all the drugs, and he had just had 3 weeks of
electro(shock)therapy - And he just 'wouldn't snap out of it'!
They basically wanted to commit him to a psychiatric hospital and wanted me
to do a battery of tests and come up with a diagnosis of say, dementia, so
they could get him out of the ward and give the bed to someone else!

I sat with him initially, before doing the tests, and tried to talk to him.
He was not too interested in talking, and I got the impression that he
didn't care to live anymore - he was looking despondent, spaced out, and
just wanted to be left alone. It was obvious to me that 'the spark' was
gone, so to speak. He had a wife who was constantly hovering around him,
very efficient - a nurse/matron - however,one of the problems for the
hospital was that he didn't want to go home - he was refusing to go home
actually - where he could be looked after by this efficient wife.

My personal conclusion was that he was weary of life for reasons I was not
able to uncover due to lack of time and that their efforts to 'revive his
spirits' or his 'desire to live' were a waste of time. It was as though he
had decided that this was it -

It was cases like this that led up to my studying homoeopathy in the first
place. I would love to have the opportunity to work with these people again
with the craft of Homoeopathy up my sleeve!

You mentioned in one of your mails that he wanted to be put out of his
misery - this seems to be quite a common theme for severly depressed people
of any age or circumstance - when whatever has been dealt to them is too
much for them to handle - they have hit their threshold of coping, and
cannot see a way through the situation.

Just looking at rubrics such as
MIND - WEARY OF LIFE
MIND - WEARY OF LIFE - unfit for life
MIND - PHENOMENA - WEARY of life
MIND - PHENOMENA - SADNESS, despondency, depression, melancholy
MIND - DELUSIONS - sick - being
MIND - PHENOMENA - DEATH - desires
MIND - SADNESS - despair; with
these would lead me to look at Agn, Hell and a few others with Agn being the
highest contender

If you then add in the possibility (and you would need to confirm this in
interview with him) of physical and consequent emotional impotence as
causative to his present state of mind then adding say

MIND - SADNESS - impotence, with
MALE GENITALIA/SEX - ERECTIONS - wanting

Agn and Kali Brom become prominent - but do not discount Calad. which has
impotence and depression and is clinically successful at 200C (Banerji)

Rochelle, with prostate problems there is always likely to be issues to do
with sexuality and aging issues, with possible fear of not being able to
hang on to things - territorial type issues - so thorough interviewing on
these topics should lead you to the core problem - if he doesn't want to
reveal or can't for whatever reason, then you can only do what you can do!

Just some thoughts

Interesting case - keep us informed

Robyn
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Rochelle
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Re: The man who thinks he is dying

Post by Rochelle »

Firstly to Toni - it wasn't NBWS PSA. Those 2 acronyms were together because
someone asked what they meant. It is a case of NBWS the surgeon revealed to
him that 3 of the samples of prostate that he removed had PREcancerous cells
in. (although he insists on calling them cancerous!!)

Robyn- what you say is so right and I think this patient is clinically
depressed. The latest is that he phoned me - and amazingly sounded far more
animated on the phone than he did when he was sat with me. He acts like
other clinically depressed patients do in that he puts on an act for the
Grandchildren etc. He phoned to say that he went to the Doctor yesterday and
was given anti depressants and wanted to know if he can take them and mine
Rx!! No comment!! I explained and said that I couldn't tell him not to take
them and that it is up to him etc etc - We will see where it goes!! I am
beginning to think that IF he believes that the anti depressants are going
to do the trick he should take them and then I will support him in coming
off them when he feels better. I didn't tell him this but told his wife. I
have left it to him if he wants to continue the Ars 30 WP for a few more
days on its own.

I feel I will hear from the family again, as I said his daughter and Grand
daughter have been patients and are cured of their problems now.
Interestingly it was Ars which sorted his 3 year old granddaughter out. We
went from 30 to 1M in 9 months. His daughter just needed a couple of doses
of Puls 200.

Regards
Rochelle

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Wouldn't this fall into a category such as NBWS (Ailments from) bad news?
I'm not sure I understand the concept of NBWS PSA. Sure, I know what PSA
is, but NBWS prostate specific antigen? Hmmm. I think this warrants a look
at Ailments from ordeals, or Ailments from bad news, or even Ailments from
fright, etc.

Toni


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