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Re: Goitre

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:52 am
by Joy Lucas
Nutritional balance is... just that, a fine balance that is easily disturbed
and consuming supplements with no real knowledgeable base can cause all
sorts of problems. I have a real 'thing' about the supplements market -
apart from putting money into a billion dollar industry many people just
consume enormous amounts of supplements without thinking about what they are
doing to their bodies. It is a lazy and dangerous method of nutrition. I
much prefer to encourage people to eat a healthy diet but that too has to
based on a sound understanding of what foods are doing what.

Many of the brassica family of vegetables can inhibit the body's ability to
use iodine, such as cabbage, turnips, swede, mustard + peanuts - smoking and
alcohol and caffeine can also effect it. Eggs, yogurt and milk, some hard
cheeses, watercress and salt water fish are good sources of iodine.

I know a number of clients who, because they were somewhat overweight
started taking kelp indiscriminantly and a few ended up with serious
pathology, one going straight into exopthlamic hyperthyroidism and serious
weight loss.

I live not too far away from Derbyshire where the 'Derbyshire neck' i.e.
goitre, used to be well known - this was an area lacking in natural iodine.
I am sure there are other areas such as this.

We are the sum of all our parts and considering the work this small gland
has to do I am not keen at all to treat it as an appendage.
on 2/16/04 2:27 AM, Bob&Shannon at shannonnelson@tds.net wrote:

Hi Joy,

I never heard of kelp *causing* thyroid problems; can you explain?
I assume you mean taking concentrated tablets, or do you consider that
*eating* kelp (e.g. kombu seaweed) can cause problems?

Shannon
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Re: Goitre

Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 1:48 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Thanks Joy, I'll definitely keep that in mind!
As far as supplements in general, I emphatically agree that one shouldn't be
"popping pills" indiscriminately, whether they are pharmaceuticals or
vitamins or herbs (tho I see those in descending order of riskiness). One
can't get a good result from *any* tool unless there an informed plan of
action behind it.

But there's a lot of good information available on these topics, and
(speaking for long and hard personal experience) for some folks "good diet"
doesn't even *begin* to be enough. For some of us "good diet" plus "good
homeopathic care" doesn't even begin to be enough, at least not at certain
points. In that case one has to take further steps. I guess all I can say
is that yes, I agree that "knowledge base" is important if one is going to
be popping pills...

Presumably the homeopath has looked at what's being taken, and will ask him
to modify his approach if necessary.
on 2/16/04 3:51 AM, Joy Lucas at joy.lucas@ntlworld.com wrote:

Re: Goitre

Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:04 am
by Patricia Hatherly
Dear Julian

Thanks for that.
I guess the blue connection comes from the fact that most Sepia individuals
wear blue, black or brown to the consultation (mostly the former in my
experience).

regards
Patricia Hatherly

Re: Goitre

Posted: Sat Mar 27, 2004 1:52 am
by Jean Doherty
Do I remember you saying she was anaemic?? What makes her better or worse/
Thirst, Apathy/ desires etc
My own painful truth is that I have used Thyroxine if clinical state not
improving. One though always keeps looking for answer, Jean
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Re: Goitre

Posted: Sun Mar 28, 2004 1:58 am
by Rochelle
No anaemia is not in the picture. She is neither thirsty or not thirsty.

I saw her today and she is convinced that the goitre is changing and has gone down. She saw my osteopath again yesterday and when I spoke to the osteopath she reckoned that her neck was a lot freer. I asked her about the constriction in the throat when she swallows and she said that it is only there now and again not all the time so I think I will have to conclude that the lapis A has/is doing something. I have told her to continue with it at 4x a day and I have also given her a split dose of Calc 200 in the hopes it may perk up her energy. She certainly looked better in that her face had plumpened up whereas last time i saw her she looked thin in the face. The osteopath said it may be generalised oedema.

In this 3rd world country of ours - the UK- she is still, after 2 weeks, waiting for the biopsy results. She is away on a course until Wednesday and then she will phone her doctor and ask him to chase it up. I just want to check that it is not cancer and if it is start her on Dr R's protocol

Regards
Rochelle

www.rochellemarsden.co.uk