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Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 1:43 am
by Hennie Duits
(Ph-ac, because diabetes originates relatively frequent from some sort of
grief).
H.
Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:22 am
by Hennie Duits
I would guess that telling the islets of Langerhans for some 30 years or so
that there is no need to do anything (by giving insulin) makes it pretty
hard to revive them. But I've seen them awake again after a few years of
such practice. However, there are no 'generals' on this number of years,
because vitality differs.
Just like any colleague, I may well have treated actual or potential
diabetics without knowing it.
Lizards grow new legs. People grow new cells. But it may well go virtually
unnoticed if, after 30 years of insulin, some portion of the islet cells
start working again.
Hennie
Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:53 am
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Atiq,
I assume all of this applies more to adult onset diabetes? What results
have you seen with someone who has been insulin dependent since childhood,
where there is apparently "no" pancreatic function at all?
Thanks,
Shannon
on 2/4/04 9:21 AM, Dr. Atiq Ahmad Bhatti at
atiq@homoeopathyforlife.co.uk
wrote:
Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 3:58 am
by Alva Irish
You guys are forgetting that most of the Diabetic people in the world have
plenty of insulin.
Their bodies do not recognize it.
So they are given pills to make their bodies recognize the insulin,a nd more
insulin to dump into the system at the same time.
Awakening the islets will not work with them, the islets are working just
fine.
Kind of an auto immune type of thing, THE most common type of diabetes.
Alva
Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 9:19 am
by E&M Wighton
Hi Sheri,
The next email was Patti's and if you click on the link, the trial case is apparently about "Diabetes and extreme Phobias", you do have to register first, but it looks like a wonderful set up.
Cheers, Elizabeth
Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 10:35 am
by gracehealth4all
Dear Rochelle,
I agree on the whole.
At the moment, I am supervising a senior student who is treating a teenager
newly diagnosed. The patient is doing very well on Carc.; feels much better in
himself, blood glucose levels stable, insulin levels are the same but being
reviewed by medics next week.
Loiuse Hay says that diabetes is about "Life has lost its sweetness" and I
often find this with my patients. And people feel valued and acknowledged when
they see that the homeopath is taking their emotional stuff into
consideration.
Best regards,
Grace
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Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 12:05 pm
by Dr. Atiq Ahmad Bhatti
Hennie has valid points.
I find that many a time asian patients come when they either been on
Insulin and are fed up with the long term effects of Diabetes, i.e.
Auditory Vertigo, Tinnitus, Low Blood Circulation, Legs and Feet Numb,
Sexual Weakness etc.
Or they come when they have been diagnosed with Diabetes or high blood
sugar. Usually this is when the sugar levels are 9mmol or above.
I have found that an appropriate prescription in the latter case always
controls the increase in sugar levels. Thereafter one can focus on the
'cure'. This is variable dependant upon the use or not of insulin, as
Hennie has said.
Insulin users take up to 2 years or so. Non insulin users work faster.
The prescription I use surprisingly promotes the body's own production
of insulin and control of the degenerative side effects of Diabetes.
Atiq
Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 2:01 pm
by Shannon Nelson
Hi Grace,
Without meaning to sound like too much of a scrooge, I've been really
disillusioned with approaches such as Louise Hay's (and also with hers in
particular)! Because it gives the impression (or did to me, when many years
ago I tried to heal myself thru those routes) that if you can just change
your thinking, you can eliminate these health problems. And the next
implied extension (or, again, this is how it played to me and others I knew)
that if you *aren't* eliminating these (deep, serious, chronic) health
issues, then you haven't tried earnestly enough, or whatever, to change your
thinking. In other words, to me it played out as another of those "blame
the patient" schticks. Altho I of course understand and appreciate the fact
that change in thinking *does* translate into change of physiology, I've
become leery of using this as a major approach to healing. (You're not, of
course, as you are a homeopath! But still...)
Often the reverse is true too: When the *body* heals, the thoughts and
emotions do too. I'm thinking that *anyone* with a debilitating chronic
illness is at high risk for coming to feel that "life has lost its
sweetness"!!!!
My bottom line -- keep and encourage positive thinking *where feasible*, be
gentle and patient if that patient's not ready yet to "get happy", and leave
out the "this disease comes from that wicked way of thinking", because more
guilt and shame are ***NOT*** what a chronically ill patient needs to have
dumped on them.
I've ranted in the past about this subject; apologies to anyone who's
already bored with it.
Cheers,
Shannon
on 2/5/04 3:35 AM,
gracehealth4all@aol.com at
gracehealth4all@aol.com wrote:
Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 9:44 pm
by gracehealth4all
Hi Shannon,
I don't feel that I am in the business of making people feel 'anything'.
I use various tools as I think appropriate that will help me to understand
the patient the best I can, and support them in a positive way in the process.
If the person does not identify with Louise' stuff, it's the end of the
matter, I don't go on pursuing it . However, from my professional experience, many
people connect with her work, and it can help in the opening up process or
association with what is going on with the person.
Best wishes,
Grace
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Re: QUESTION on Diabetes - Insulin-Dependent
Posted: Thu Feb 05, 2004 11:20 pm
by Shannon Nelson
As a way of seeing what issues they resonate with, I can see it would be
useful.
Cheers,
Shannon
on 2/5/04 2:44 PM,
gracehealth4all@aol.com at
gracehealth4all@aol.com wrote: