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Re: An interesting case

Posted: Sat Jul 17, 2004 6:49 pm
by J Lucas
Aconite would fit

best, Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com

Re: An interesting case

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 11:34 am
by Gaby Rottler
Hi Farbod, all,
I think it's interesting that you based your remedy choice on the one
symptom 'urination involuntarily, during vomiting' - and now some in thw
group found out found that there are discrepancies in the different Reps
- and Paris probably/possibly never produced such a symptom.

So thanks for this case, as this was a possibility to find out some
errors in our modern literature!

So, the question is:

WHY did Paris quad. apparently cure - although the characteristic
symptom you choose wasn't covered by it?

Simple answer:

Paris has according to Jahr's Symptomenkodex:
"increased warmth of the body, often with anxiety or with perspiration,
especially on the upper body and with accelerated full pulse; ....heat
and perspiration on head, with nausea, after breakfast."

So here you have the combination perspiration - anxiety - nausea within
ONE symptom (prover)!! ....which could/will be the cause why Paris cured
in this case.

BTW: Jahr's Manual gives the rubric: Vomiting, accompanied by flow of
urine - Lach (only remedy). But that entire symptom in te Symptomenkodex
is quite different from what you are describing. Yet Lach should be
added to this rubric in the Reps.)

Food for thought,

Gaby

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Gaby Rottler
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rottler@curantur.de

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Re: An interesting case

Posted: Sun Jul 18, 2004 12:39 pm
by J Lucas
I think there are probably a number of remedies to add to the rubric.

My choice of remedy which was Aconite has 'vomiting with fear, profuse sweat
and increased urination; there is also involuntary urination.

But there are other aspects of this case which are vague in Paris - the
periodicity; the <<< before and after menses; and the possible causation of
surgery - even the anxious restlessness is not truly a strong keynote but is
obviously there.

I remember some Paris cases from College days so this is an eye opener to me
and renewed my thoughts about this rx.

Fascinating case - thanks for sharing.

Best, Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 18/7/04 10:34 AM, Gaby Rottler at rottler@curantur.de wrote:

Hi Farbod, all,
I think it's interesting that you based your remedy choice on the one
symptom 'urination involuntarily, during vomiting' - and now some in thw
group found out found that there are discrepancies in the different Reps
- and Paris probably/possibly never produced such a symptom.

So thanks for this case, as this was a possibility to find out some
errors in our modern literature!

So, the question is:

WHY did Paris quad. apparently cure - although the characteristic
symptom you choose wasn't covered by it?

Simple answer:

Paris has according to Jahr's Symptomenkodex:
"increased warmth of the body, often with anxiety or with perspiration,
especially on the upper body and with accelerated full pulse; ....heat
and perspiration on head, with nausea, after breakfast."

So here you have the combination perspiration - anxiety - nausea within
ONE symptom (prover)!! ....which could/will be the cause why Paris cured
in this case.

BTW: Jahr's Manual gives the rubric: Vomiting, accompanied by flow of
urine - Lach (only remedy). But that entire symptom in te Symptomenkodex
is quite different from what you are describing. Yet Lach should be
added to this rubric in the Reps.)

Food for thought,

Gaby
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