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Re: A problem case

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 10:53 am
by Joy Lucas
Dear Rochelle, Sulphur would also resonate with the case as you described
his emotional/mental state that, although somewhat 'timid his staff are
fearful of him as he takes on challenges and gets what he wants' - SELFISH -
a number one keynote of Sulphur. Sulphur are not always lazy at all.

This mixture of timid and determined would rule out Graphites which has all
the physicals but I was interested that you said his sx got worse after the
Lyc 200 you gave him - they might well do with a high potency of this rx but
I am always curious when a remedy creates such an aggravation as it might be
the true similimum. Lyc has 'weak determination'.

best, Joy
on 8/8/03 1:03 AM, ROCHELLE at rochelle@ntlworld.com wrote:

Hi Gaby,
Sulphur does come out as the top remedy in my reps but doesn't it always!!!
Maybe you are right and I should consider it. Will look at it carefully-
Thanks for the suggestion. Sometimes the obvious needs pointing out.

Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk
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Re: A problem case

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 11:57 am
by marsden43
Dear Joy,
Yes I will look through Sulphur carefully before he next comes in. I
don't think I have ever considering Graphites. What physicals do you
see that are graphites?
I don't want to repeat the Lycopodium at the moment as I gave that
more for the IBS stuff and that is not there at the moment. It is
just the ears that are to the fore now.

Regards
Rochelle

--- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, Joy Lucas wrote:
described
staff are
SELFISH -
all.
which has all
after the
this rx but
it might be

Re: A problem case

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 3:45 pm
by Joy Lucas
yes, I know you said the IBS sx have gone but I still think that the true
simillimum, given earlier would and should have dealt with the whole case
rather than in bits.

Elisabeth's post reminded me that this is the 'rock climbing person' and her
points about delving deeper into this mixture of timidity and challenging
personality is worth doing - and going back to Lycopodium I was again
thinking that the rock climbing is a way of dealing with his apparent
timidity/cowardice and besides Lyc has otorrhea, deafness and eczema
associated with the ears as well.

Graphites, very timid in their nature, almost child like but they don't
compensate in the way you describe him as they really are irresolute, but
the ears are a central point for eruptions, fissures and moisture oozing,
deafness often accompanies. IBS is common also as it seems to be part of the
same defection - skin and mucous membranes (a catarrhal state).
on 8/8/03 10:57 AM, marsden43 at rochelle@ntlworld.com wrote:
Dear Joy,
Yes I will look through Sulphur carefully before he next comes in. I
don't think I have ever considering Graphites. What physicals do you
see that are graphites?
I don't want to repeat the Lycopodium at the moment as I gave that
more for the IBS stuff and that is not there at the moment. It is
just the ears that are to the fore now.

Regards
Rochelle
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Re: A problem case

Posted: Fri Aug 08, 2003 6:35 pm
by Gaby Rottler
Hi Rochelle,
Sometimes when a case seems stuck, it is good to focus on the current
complaint and the symptoms that have developped during the time of the
complaint.
Not taking those into account that were present before the time the
complaint started.

And when the rhus-poisoning started the ear problems, then this causa
needs to be taken into account.

Best,

Gaby

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Gaby Rottler
Germany
rottler@curantur.de

http://www.curantur.de
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Re: A problem case

Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2003 2:06 am
by Rochelle
Are you thinking about a particular Rx? Answers to your questions are below.

Thanks
Rochelle
www.rochellemarsden.co.uk

Re: A problem case

Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2003 10:20 pm
by marsden43
Dear All.
Just an update on his last consultation, what I prescribed and what
happened (nothing!!). i was going to prescribe Sulphur until the
following came up!!! This consultation was very interesting as he
came up with things I was not aware of before. He must be beginning
to trust me more.The Kali Sulphate didn't appear to do anything in
the 200 potency that I had given the previous month.

Mother - a close relationship. "She has a very strong personality
and she tries to dominate me but she doesn't get away with it. It
suits me to live in the same building as Mum although we have
different flats. She makes my meals."
"I don't like people in my house as they might make a mess. I had to
do all the decorating. People are more sloppy than I am." I wouldn't
want to wear dirty old clothes or sit in a house that was a midden.
They my house is like a museum. It's perfect with everything in the
right place. I never have Mum in for a meal as after she's been I
would have Hoover the floor. I think this stems back to childhood
when I had to live in a constant state of renovation. It is a
sanctuary and it's mine. I wouldn't leave a stranger in my house as
they could break, steal or make a mess. I can be untidy with my
clothes thrown on the floor at night. Yes I do clean because I don't
like dust."

"I am too shy to ask someone out. I don't trust people and I want
them to be kept at a distance. I think that is why I have never
dated. No I don't think I am very affectionate."

" Most of my life is spent climbing"

He could be fearful of the dark as he has a hall light on at night.

" I am very happy with my life. In 5 years I would like to be
retired doing full time climbing. I can't afford to retire early as
I have a mortgage."

"I watch DVDs - action adventures, live concerts. I like rock music
and I like dancing to music in Clubs, which I do when I go to Spain.
No, a girl has never made a pass at me. You dance on your own.

"I prefer to be in company but my home is my castle."

Remembering that the problem is the itchy eczema in ears (see
original post below) I decided on what Joy recommended Graphites and
gave in 30C bd for one week. (18th August)Since I was going away my
instructi9ons were that if there was no change to take a single dose
Carc 200 a few days later.(Reason - the fastidiousness + his caring
job + it may lead me to the next Rx )

I had an Email yesterday to say there has been no change!! he is due
in again on 22nd but I have not answered his e mail yet as I don't
know what to say. maybe send some sac lac??

Comments appreciated as usual!!

Rochelle
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Previous post
-- In minutus@yahoogroups.com, "ROCHELLE" wrote:
""Basically I have eczema in both ears which causes the skin to
break and fluid leaks into my ears causing temporary deafness.""

Have sorted this patient's other concerns and this is what we are
left with!! Last remedy tried Kali Sulph 200 after possible success
with the 30C which was a little difficult to judge as he had been
taking doctor's stuff! after getting a fly in his ear! His other
problems were IBS. I find that the rep is very lacking when it comes
to eczema and itching IN the ear. He is a timid nervous sounding man
(unmarried) - too underconfident at 47 to have ever had a
relationship who thinks that his staff are frightened of him because
he takes on the local council and gets what he wants. Hobby is rock
climbing. He has a fear of failing in a situation that he can't
solve or cope with. Dad died of TB when he was born and he must have
been conceived when he had it. I have not given him Tub but maybe I
should? He was in a children's home between age of 7-11 and later
threatened that if he was naughty he would be sent back. He sounds
as if he was Tub as a child as he says he was violent and used to
smash things up. He has a striking shock of thick blond hair. The
ear stuff started in '84 when his step father (the one who
threatened him as a child) died and he cut down some poison ivy and
came out in a rash. It will happen now if he inhales the spore. The
first Rx I gave him was Rhus Tox 200. He came out in an acne type
rash after the rx which he has had before but nothing much else. I
have just remembered that I have discussed this case before and
told you that I gave Dys.Co 30 . It was that which made all the
difference to the IBS.

Re: A problem case

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 2:33 am
by Shannon Nelson
My, how interesting!!!
This is one that seems to push some of my "buttons", and I'd wonder whether
I'm objective: What I *seem* to be hearing is a lot of arrogance and
selfishness (other people are slobs, they're not worthy of being let into my
"castle"; my mum can't get away with dominating me, but I let her cook my
meals (at 47 ????; won't have his mum to visit, because he'd have to
*vacuum* after her???? What, does she shed? sheesh... and etc...), and a
*striking* lack of connection -- with *anyone*, it seems! But he's fine
with it, doesn't miss any of those connections at all, it seems. He says
he's "too shy to ask someone out", but it sounds more like he simply doesn't
want to mess up his tidy life!

Could this be syphilitic miasm? (or am I misinterpreting...)

MIND; AVERSION; society: anac., bell., caust., cic., clem., coca, con.,
graph., kali-c., lyc., nat-c., ratt-n., stann., syph.

MIND; DELUSIONS, imaginations; great person, is: aeth., agar., alum., bell.,
cann-i., coca, cupr., cur., glon., graph., hyos., kola., lach., lap-mar-c.,
lyc., lycpr., lyss., phos., plat., stram., sulph., syph., verat., verat-v.

MIND; DIRTINESS; aversion to: ratt-n., syph.

MIND; INDIFFERENCE, apathy; relations, to: acon., bac., falco-p., fl-ac.,
Hell., hep., hydrog., kali-p., lap-gr-m., nat-c., nat-p., PHOS., plat.,
SEP., syph.

MIND; MORAL affections; antisocial: aesc., anac., ilx-a., lap-gr-m.,
pseuts-m., sac-alb., syph.

Also Obstinate, Offended easily...

But the ears...
I don't see syph in any "itchy ears" rubrics, but it does appear in these:]

SKIN; ERUPTIONS; crusty
SKIN; ERUPTIONS; itching
SKIN; ERUPTIONS; scaly

Dunno if those are close enough to maybe apply...

Anyway, I'll be fascinated to hear others' thoughts! What an interesting
case.

Shannon
on 9/7/03 3:20 PM, marsden43 at rochelle@ntlworld.com wrote:

Re: A problem case

Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2003 8:20 am
by Joy Lucas
Dear Rochelle, what would he do if his 'castle' was invaded - what would his
reaction be - I am asking as to whether he has any violence in him when
under threat or the reverse (he already appears to be quite timid and a
loner).

Lac can washes and cleans all the time with a sense of disgust, as does Syph

Baryta carb has mistrust, great obsession with trivia, cannot leave the
parent, has very itchy ears.

Just a couple of pointers.

best, Joy

www.homeopathicmateriamedica.com
on 9/7/03 9:20 PM, marsden43 at rochelle@ntlworld.com wrote:

Dear All.
Just an update on his last consultation, what I prescribed and what
happened (nothing!!). i was going to prescribe Sulphur until the
following came up!!! This consultation was very interesting as he
came up with things I was not aware of before. He must be beginning
to trust me more.The Kali Sulphate didn't appear to do anything in
the 200 potency that I had given the previous month.

Mother - a close relationship. "She has a very strong personality
and she tries to dominate me but she doesn't get away with it. It
suits me to live in the same building as Mum although we have
different flats. She makes my meals."
"I don't like people in my house as they might make a mess. I had to
do all the decorating. People are more sloppy than I am." I wouldn't
want to wear dirty old clothes or sit in a house that was a midden.
They my house is like a museum. It's perfect with everything in the
right place. I never have Mum in for a meal as after she's been I
would have Hoover the floor. I think this stems back to childhood
when I had to live in a constant state of renovation. It is a
sanctuary and it's mine. I wouldn't leave a stranger in my house as
they could break, steal or make a mess. I can be untidy with my
clothes thrown on the floor at night. Yes I do clean because I don't
like dust."

"I am too shy to ask someone out. I don't trust people and I want
them to be kept at a distance. I think that is why I have never
dated. No I don't think I am very affectionate."

" Most of my life is spent climbing"

He could be fearful of the dark as he has a hall light on at night.

" I am very happy with my life. In 5 years I would like to be
retired doing full time climbing. I can't afford to retire early as
I have a mortgage."

"I watch DVDs - action adventures, live concerts. I like rock music
and I like dancing to music in Clubs, which I do when I go to Spain.
No, a girl has never made a pass at me. You dance on your own.

"I prefer to be in company but my home is my castle."

Remembering that the problem is the itchy eczema in ears (see
original post below) I decided on what Joy recommended Graphites and
gave in 30C bd for one week. (18th August)Since I was going away my
instructi9ons were that if there was no change to take a single dose
Carc 200 a few days later.(Reason - the fastidiousness + his caring
job + it may lead me to the next Rx )

I had an Email yesterday to say there has been no change!! he is due
in again on 22nd but I have not answered his e mail yet as I don't
know what to say. maybe send some sac lac??

Comments appreciated as usual!!

Rochelle
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Re: A problem case

Posted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 12:27 pm
by J.VENKATASUBRAMANIAN
Dear Rochelle,

You post those conversations and the desire to interpret in Dr
Sehgall's PPP
( Present, Persisting and Predominant) way becomes irresistible.

1. Coquettish, not enough- bell, lyc, puls
exp 1. I think that is why I have never dated. No I don't think I
am very affectionate."
exp 2. too underconfident at 47 to have ever had a relationship
who thinks that
his staff are frightened of him because he takes on the
local council and gets
what he wants(this exp I would give importance since this
has persisted since last
interview.
exp 3. No, a girl has never made a pass at me. You dance on your
own.

2. Quiet wants to be, repose and tranquility desires:bell,con,
crat,nux v, sulph
exp 1. I prefer to be in company but my home is my castle
3. Home- talks of home- bell, Bry
4. Objective, reasonable: alum, bell, hep, lach, merc, nat-m,nit
ac,plat,sil
exp: I can't afford to retire early as I have a mortgage."

If I were you, I would start him on bell 30c.If no reaction,
gradually go up to cm.
once these expressions are neutralised, there will be a chain of
return of orig sx.

This forum is too small to go into the entire substance of Dr
Sehgall's teachings.
But irrespective of the physicals, he devised a new way of
prescription beased on
PPP mentals.
Best
Venkat