Minutus

I will respond with a more detailed presentation of remedies and timeline
tomorrow

comments and questions remain, unaswered:
I do not think it reasonable for you to equate yourself with Galileo or
Copernicus, and suggest that you learn to mimic homeopathy prior to
recreating it in your own image.

Clearly, you have not internalized Hahnemann's philosophy, and gone on to
prove it to yourself, and you are blatantly taking advantage of the loose
moderation of this group to promote TCM, homo-jive-ocology, or whatever.

This group is a HOMEOPATHY group.

Your consistent insistence on posting off topic is most disrespectful of the
simple fact that this group
is a HOMEOPATHY group.

Isn't it interesting how people consider themselves to be bold and intrepid
advancers of some fringe idea loosely related to homeopathy .. yet have
never come to understand the whole?

And when caught up short, confronted by the fact of their shortcomings in
having read, understood and successfully practiced "the basics" each one of
these wannabe Einsteins will rail against the injustice of it all... and
generally sink to ad-hominem attack.

Kindly show respect for topic of group. (request number 20 or so)

Dave Hartley
www.Mr-Notebook.com
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Seattle, WA 425.820.7443
Asheville, NC 828.285.0240

Far be it from me to get involved in your argument. But I think our friend has a point about guessopathy. There must be a place for insulin in Homoeopathy I am sure. But what that place is should be found by the symptoms as produced in controlled provings and not by the name of the disease because even though it may help one case it is bound to fail in hundreds of others and then that becomes guessopathy.
So if you want to prescribe insulin go ahead and do it but try to get its symptoms first.
best regards
Elham

Dave,

What Isali describes is not of classical homeopathy; however it *is* within
the broader "popular" definition of homeopathy (???anything that uses
"potentized remedies"???), and it is a recognized and effective method of
healing; and it is (if I've understood correctly) an allowable topic for
discussion on this list.

As you've noted, it's not classical.
As we've noted, your familiarity with use of potentized remedies does not
extend beyond classical.
Ergo, you're not familiar with the approach Isali speaks of.
Ergo, in criticizing and demeaning it and him, you literally don't know what
you're talking about.
Give it a rest.
*If* you think his posts are off-topic to an extent that should be
disallowed, I suggest you take it up -- off-list -- with Ardavan (list
owner, remember?), and then (ahem) abide by his decision. And oh, you could
feel free to let us know what he says.

I respect your enthusiasm for classical; I shun your ongoing rudeness over
the non-classical.

Regards,
Shannon
on 11/4/02 1:30 PM, Dave Hartley at dave@localcomputermart.com wrote:

I would like to second Shannon's comments.

With respect, what give's Dave the right to dictate what other people may or
may not be interested in hearing about - what happened to being
unprejudiced, and why is it necessary to constantly put other people down.
I for one am getting fed up with it and am sure I am not the only one.

Classical Homeopathy is obviously how you choose to practice homeopathy,
everyone is entitled to choose their path, but it is not to say it is the
only way, everyone should have the opportunity to share their own
experience. No one forces you to read what you don't agree with, but give
other people the choice.

Regards

Karen

I must heartily concur with Shannon.

Dave there have been some great homeopath, who have done wonders and by your
standards Compton Burnett, Ellis Barker, Pritam Singh (et al) would have been
put up against the wall & shot!
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Karen:

What gives you the idea that being "unprejudiced" is the same as lacking or
failing to exercise the basic intellectual ability to discriminate between
posts which are on the topic of homeopathy and posts which are not?

Do you understand that TCM is not homeopathy?
Good. Hopefully you also are aware that throwing together 15 or 20
different remedies in 3 or 5 different potencies is not homeopathy? ??
????

Do you understand that the (quote) physics of homotoxicology (close quote)
is not homeopathy ?

Do you understand that this is a homeopathy discussion group?

Do you understand that there are hundreds of all-things-considered
alternative healing email groups?

What is the problem?

If you want a bunch of off-topic discussion, JOIN ANOTHER LIST to fulfill
your desire
... and post homeopathy on this one.

Simple common courtesy dictates posting on-topic.
Dave Hartley
www.Mr-Notebook.com
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Seattle, WA 425.820.7443
Asheville, NC 828.285.0240

Let's not get confused.

Isali is not a homeopath and has never been one.

He's a TCM doctor, probably a passably good one, who is using combinations
of potentized substances -which is definitively non-homeopathic.

Giving 15 or 20 remedies because you aren't able to select ONE remedy is
not homeopathy (get out a dictionary if you are unclear on this or better
yet, read the Organon!)

Learn homeopathy first.
THEN try whatever last-ditch efforts in a cancer case, or wherever your
practice takes you, and God bless you and guide your hand. As you go on
about continual learning, perhaps you will have something of value to
teach -- and very likely it will be consistent with homeopathy, no?

If you start out with little understanding of homeopathy, and begin using
Reckeweg stuff or some other far-removed exploration of what someone else
has developed as an alternative to homeopathy, you are not learning or
practicing homeopathy, and your cases have no value in terms of contributing
to or illustrating homeopathic understanding.
Dave Hartley
www.Mr-Notebook.com
www.localcomputermart.com/dave
Seattle, WA 425.820.7443
Asheville, NC 828.285.0240

Okay, so let's say he was sharing a plumbing technique.
Why not just point out that, in case anyone is confused, this is plumbing,
not classical homeopathy, and leave it at that? And skip the inuendo and
insults?
on 11/4/02 4:06 PM, Dave Hartley at dave@localcomputermart.com wrote:

Dave your absolutley RIGHT - Here in Canada everybody is a would-be
homeopath - health food store employees, chiroprators, herbalist etc even a
few MDs hiding under the radar. They all read their $ 29 book and found
companies like Seroyal and Reckeweg. But all they use is are the
polypharmacies and don't have a clue. This is one factor that helped
destroy real homeopathy 100 yrs ago and my fears are that history may repeat
itself again. "Where's my Op "

Bob