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Re: California Passes Mandatory Vaccinations Bill For All Adults
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 7:50 pm
by Dana Ullman, MPH
Gad…so many homeopaths are total nut cases!
Anyone who thinks that Fox News isn’t fake news is warped beyond imagination, just like our President who doesn’t seem to be able to tell the truth about virtually every subject. And although Trump doesn’t “need” anyone else’s money, THAT is ALL he thinks about. He tries to monetize everything he does. He’s the greediest man alive…and the fact that people here don’t get that suggests that many homeopaths are deaf, dumb, and blind. Heck, Trump is still hiding his taxes AND hiding his college grades (don’t you think that IF his grades were simply good, he’d be bragging about them and SHOWING them…and if his taxes were clean, he’s be posting them on Twitter.
He’s a MAFIA DON, and I’ve heard fellow homeopaths diagnose him with the syphilitic miasm…it is no wonder that he is a germophobe!
And to say that the United Nations is full of “communists” is the most laughable thing I’ve heard in a long long time. Delusions happen amongst homeopaths just as much as anywhere else. Sad, but true.
Dana Ullman, MPH, CCH
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Re: California Passes Mandatory Vaccinations Bill For All Adults
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 8:21 pm
by Tanya Marquette
Thank you Dana. So nice when one hears their own words coming from someone else, particularly with someone of notable standing.
tanya
Re: California Passes Mandatory Vaccinations Bill For All Adults
Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:50 pm
by Mary Salvador
Thank you again Dana!
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Gad…so many homeopaths are total nut cases!
Anyone who thinks that Fox News isn’t fake news is warped beyond imagination, just like our President who doesn’t seem to be able to tell the truth about virtually every subject. And although Trump doesn’t “need” anyone else’s money, THAT is ALL he thinks about. He tries to monetize everything he does. He’s the greediest man alive…and the fact that people here don’t get that suggests that many homeopaths are deaf, dumb, and blind. Heck, Trump is still hiding his taxes AND hiding his college grades (don’t you think that IF his grades were simply good, he’d be bragging about them and SHOWING them…and if his taxes were clean, he’s be posting them on Twitter.
He’s a MAFIA DON, and I’ve heard fellow homeopaths diagnose him with the syphilitic miasm…it is no wonder that he is a germophobe!
And to say that the United Nations is full of “communists” is the most laughable thing I’ve heard in a long long time. Delusions happen amongst homeopaths just as much as anywhere else. Sad, but true.
Dana Ullman, MPH, CCH
812 Camelia St.
Berkeley, CA. 94710
(510)649-0294
dullman@igc.org (personal email)
email@homeopathic.com (professional email)
www.homeopathic.com (website)
www.HomeopathicFamilyMedicine.com (new e-course website!)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/dana-ullman (Blog at the Huffingtonpost)
@HomeopathicDana (Twitter)
Re: California Passes Mandatory Vaccinations Bill For All Adults
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:36 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
Yes Tanya, but there is a difference between presenting and using the experiences and actions of other countries and nations, and presenting one nation as the pinnacle of importance.
As you properly wrote, this is bullying and the best way to repel others.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz
Re: California Passes Mandatory Vaccinations Bill For All Adults
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 6:56 pm
by Dana Ullman, MPH
Joe Rozenswajg claims that I and perhaps others here are claiming that the USA is somehow superior to other countries. I assume that he is NOT talking about me (if he is, he is dead wrong). Just because I sometimes write about something happening in the USA or am critiquing some of the lunatics in America does NOT mean that I consider America to be “the best.”
Perhaps some of the right-wing Trumpers here are guilty of this.
Joe…please be more specific with your concerns.
Dana Ullman, MPH, CCH
812 Camelia St.
Berkeley, CA. 94710
(510)649-0294
dullman@igc.org (personal email)
email@homeopathic.com (professional email)
www.homeopathic.com (website)
www.HomeopathicFamilyMedicine.com (new e-course website!)
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/dana-ullman (Blog at the Huffingtonpost)
@HomeopathicDana (Twitter)
Re: California Passes Mandatory Vaccinations Bill For All Adults
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 8:34 pm
by Tanya Marquette
Dana
I read Joe's post as more generic. The US is full of exceptionalism in its attitudes towards the rest of the world.
And when it comes to health and the medical/chemical industries it has been a major bully actually threatening countries
if they did not accept one vaccine campaign or another. It seems to me that when we talk about vaccines in other countries
and what is happening, or the push to ban homeopathy we are talking about corporate America and its control over gov't
policies abroad as well as here in the US.
My focus is to try and educate people in other countries about the strategies and tactics being used here as these are the
very ones we seen being exported for control of other countries. My advocacy is for people to take our experiences seriously
so they can a) be aware and b) prepare to defend themselves. Currently we see the UK marching slowly and determinedly to
limit and de-legitimatize homeopathy. If people there really rev up their organizing they can wage a strong fight. They would
also gain support I think thru the Alliance for Health EU.
I do not take Joe's comment personally as I know where I sit when it comes to looking abroad. and it is not elitist.
t
Re: California Passes Mandatory Vaccinations Bill For All Adults
Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 10:44 pm
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
Why do you feel targeted?
The whole point of remaining somewhat polite on a discussion list is to avoid personal attacks that are not addressed directly to the individual.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz
Re: California Passes Mandatory Vaccinations Bill For All Adults
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 3:12 am
by Vicki Satta
LOL: Dr. Joe: Greetings from Colorado, USA! Good question. I must add (politely) that if the homeopaths in this group could clear their minds of the notions that Trump is this… Trump is that… and simply think about how the White House (like Melania, the First Lady) might help us then anything is possible! Yes, I know… but I think there is something to the thought.
How so: Her mission is focused on children, which includes ALL families living in the USA. Go to whitehouse.gov and look for First Lady Initiatives.
First, she is European. She may be an advocate for homeopathy. Being the President’s wife, maybe she can put our ideas in his head! Before we go off the wall and become a political hot spot of DEMOCRATS VS REPUBLICAN, I see an opening here. If the people in charge of this new effort want to do something, and if we all believe homeopathy is the solution to “healthcare that works and is affordable,” then this makes sense. You cannot ask for somebody else to do it because you are too busy. We are ALL TOO BUSY, eh?
How did the European nations set-up their homeopathy programs? How are they handling the fight to keep them? If we are smart, we can leave the details out for now and write an extremely interesting REQUEST FOR HELP FROM Melania and find someone to lead this initiative who is NOT full of hate and political rhetoric to start doing the research and writing up a plan for a meeting with the First Lady. She is all about health. Look at her… stunning. Right? Does it matter if she is the President’s wife? Not to me. I see her as an asset to our dilemma.
How so:
We have someone in this group who is also Czech and she is SMART (very smart)… you know her well Joe. What if we asked her (she lives in CA and was raised with homeopathy) to spend some time in helping us (not us, but this small group of positive and determined homeopaths) to write a letter to Melania in her language seeking her support of homeopathy and her help in developing an initiative for Congress to look at? We could also ask her parents (who live here) for some help. I would be shocked if, knowing that she grew up in a country that uses homeopathy, that her staff wouldn’t ask her to take a look at a proposal from us. Can you imagine an initiative that would (in some fashion) support her BE BEST program? I see it. I feel it happening, and see how we might fit in. Stop giving up people. Do you really believe in the power of homeopathy? With that intent, we cannot lose.
We know that Josette Calabrese, who is very, very busy, raised her kids WITHOUT antibiotics and seriously practiced homeopathy in taking care of her boys, right? Do you know that? Are you a practitioner who knows her? How could she help? Would she take some time out of her own “always homeopathy” money making practice and help us develop something that started with children and would be directed at our First Lady? We need to look at Melania as not a REPUBLICAN or DEMOCRAT. she is OUR First Lady. Would anyone agree to help develop this initiative?
No attacks/no politics, and nobody on the working group who is going to turn this POSITIVE thought that could grow into an initiative and not a partisan political battle. Joe, does that sound reasonable? Is it doable to get these international practitioners to FIGHT for homeopathy? I would hope that every single person in the international arena who is reading this great discussion group would say, “Hey, let’s try. There is a lot to gain by making the effort.” I absolutely have no time. I am absolutely in a bad state of health right now, and working with a local homeopath who relocated to CO recently. The lucky people who found her call her MIRACLE DOCTOR. I believe 1) we do have the power, 2) we can take action from a very elevated state of life if we are able to embrace everyone who thinks Americans need/want homeopathy and don’t know it! We should also study: why did we Americans let the other side destroy homeopathy back in the day? How did that happen? Why did it happen? Perhaps we didn’t have enough confidence to go through the battle of winning? Were we not sure of the value of homeopathy to the people of the USA and the world? Who knows (or was around then) to be able to see why we lost one of the most important non-military battles of our country’s history?
If we as homeopaths, students of homeopathy and patients of homeopaths aren’t able to rise above the world that the AI’s programming and the unimaginable things that the AI is throwing our way, then the world as we know it will not continue to exist. And that is the truth. I could say more, but then you will call me a conspiracy theorist! Not conspiracy. I will not disclose the dirty little secret of the AI programming that we need to wake up to that are bombarding us with unimaginable visions of what is coming. We need to act before it’s too late. That is without doubt. I, as a non-homeopath/patient and student, long to be educated enough to guide others to homeopathy and to heal my own issues. Further, I am convinced that the practitioners in this group need to practice their own medicine, to believe in it and assist other humans and pet owners that homeopathy is THE WAY. I say that reluctantly. Why reluctantly? I think I am at least a “graduate level” woman who knows that when people come together for the sake of a giant and impossible-looking task, then and only then does the IMPOSSIBLE become POSSIBLE! The whole point of being "somewhat polite on a discussion list” my dear Dr. Joe, is to avoid personal attacks that are not addressed directly to the individual. LOL Joe, if I might go ahead and say this: you always get it right!
One more quick thought: The President and his First Lady spent time in London with the great-looking Queen of England, who at 90+ years of age could walk, talk and looked old but had vitality and looked healthy. Why do you suppose that is? Yes, thanks to her HOMEOPATH, it appears she is good for more LIFE and not death at this moment. Do you suppose that she, Charles and her homeopath (sorry, don’t know his name) might help us? I think there would be no better advocates. What do you think?
Further, and this could be the kicker if Melania could snoop around the White House and get us some contacts. I heard the President say something like this, “… Her people (the Queens staff) told me that they haven’t seen her having so much “fun” in at last 25 years!" Now, what would you say about that? Anybody in London willing to get on this team and ask them to help put together a plan that we can present to the First Lady? If she hadn’t grown up in a world where homeopathy existed, then it probably isn’t a winning idea. But she did, and it is a winning idea!
In closing, I thank you if you made it to the end of my support of Dr. Joe’s thoughts… he always ends with his ABSOLUTELY truthful quote about closed minds! Thanks Joe.
In closing, thank you for allowing me to post this. I hope someone can take my thoughts and move forward with them!
Vicki, still crying for her best friend Walter. He’s gone, but we will meet again soon.
Thanks everyone. Please help. I am just going to send this. I’ve been sitting here for a long time, with feet, legs on the floor when they s/b elevated. So if this isn’t clear, ask me and I will respond tomorrow.
Vicki and Walter (He wants us to save more of our pets!)
Re: California Passes Mandatory Vaccinations Bill For All Adults
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 4:43 am
by Leilanae
Hi Dana,
If your Company was on the verge of bankruptcy, would you hire someone
who had a specialty in monetization?
Atb,
Leilanae
Re: California Passes Mandatory Vaccinations Bill For All Adults
Posted: Thu Aug 01, 2019 8:16 am
by Dr. Joe Rozencwajg, NMD
Well, it is worth a try, nothing to lose but time.
But let me add this, the view from the "outside": with the "ambiance" now existing in the WH, the Congress, the Senate and your whole country, even if Melania agreed to it and if T would listen to her, I fear it will immediately be dismissed as another of his "ideas" and be blocked and pooh-poohed, then seen as something evil coming out from him (I am trying to suppress my own opinions here...).
I would suggest to wait until after the elections, then act on whoever is in power. Now is such an unstable time, it would be akin to build a house during an earthquake.
Joe.
Dr. J. Rozencwajg, NMD
"The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind"
www.naturamedica.co.nz