Alcoholic patient

[Dale Moss]

Thank you, Didi. When I first started treating him years ago, the alcoholism was well hidden, from both me and his family. It was difficult to make sense of his symptoms (and his apparent lack of response to well-indicated remedies) until we learned of his drinking.
He is in AA and receiving counseling (though query whether the latter is frequent enough and aggressive enough).
Good to know about the acupuncture. I had ordered Quercus for him, but this and some of the older recommended techniques for inducing a distaste for alcohol seem to me more geared to physiological dependency than psychological. Maybe by this stage there's no line between them, however, and any complementary approach should be embraced. If I can get him to do it -- I've used FE with this man but doubt he takes them regularly. These are not the most compliant or regular of patients...
Peace,
Dale

[Shannon Nelson]

Well... wouldn't stuff that comes out when he's been drinking be more likely to show what's actually there?
And "relentlessly cheerful" sounds like a compensation... ?
Anything about responsibility / responsibilities?

[Lucy De Pieri]

Hi Didi,

Thank you for the information.

How are you administering the MTs for weaning off alcohol?

Kind regards
Lucy
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[Sherill]

Dale, I understand your desire to avoid speculation and to help him identify what drives the behavior. Maybe a remedy (Germ or another) will help him get clarity. While the pasted rubrics ARE pure speculation, thrown together - as if one – might add some remedies to consider. Additionally I never saw this rubric: MIND; SUICIDAL disposition; drunkenness, during (3) : ars., bell., nux-v.

While it is an opposite to your case, it is interesting…
MIND; POSITIVENESS (17)

MIND; SUCCEEDS never (10)

MIND; CONFIDENCE; want of self (120)

MIND; DELUSIONS, imaginations; succeed, that he cannot, does everything wrong (18)

MIND; ANXIETY; success, from doubt about (2)

MIND; UNDERTAKES; nothing, lest he fails (3)

MIND; DELUSIONS, imaginations; right, does nothing (6)

MIND; DELUSIONS, imaginations; wrong; he has done (30)

MIND; DELUSIONS, imaginations; crime; committed, he had (32)

MIND; HYPOCHONDRIASIS; suicide, leading to (12)
Sherill

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I agree, Sherill. But I'm not sure how to repertorize this without falling into more speculation than makes me comfortable (e.g., what drives this behavior?).
Peace,

Dale

[Dale Moss]

Interesting that of the rubrics you suggested, the two that ring truest for this patient (Delusions, he cannot succeed and does everything wrong; delusions, he does nothing right) both contain Germanium in high degree.
It seems to me that his is a problem of very basic self-loathing. He doesn't feel like a criminal or feel as if he's committed a major wrong; he just doesn't feel the does things right.
His cheerfulness is a way of deflecting inquiry into what's going on. I don't think he's actively suicidal: the idea he'd be better off dead comes if he relapses and seems to be -- pure speculation on my part -- to reflect a desire for punishment rather than a true desire to die.
At any rate, Germanium has the neuropathy, the cheeriness, and the appropriate degree of self-loathing. There's also an interesting Bill Gray case involving it in RefW.
Peace,
Dale

[Didi Ananda Ruchira]

I wrote

Sorry the booklet is Gallavardins Alcholism. a worthy read. can find it in Ref Works.
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With regards,
Didi Ananda Ruchira | Tel: +254 (0)723-869133  | eudora="autourl">www.abhalight.org

[Dale Moss]

Would that it were a pamphlet by Foubister! I do have Gallavardin's booklet but have not found it that helpful.
Peace,
Dale