About constitutional remedy

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

In that there has been a lot of bad teaching of homeopathy there is no doubt. The fact that a lot of colleague are practising mixopathy in place homeopathy is a confirming point.
I did mention that 'constitutional prescribing' means different things to different people - depending on who has taught them. This is also sadly true in the meaning of miasms too.
In treating a patient over a long period of time, one may use a variety of remedies. It is sometime like peeling an onion that has not been stored well.

One would observe the colour of the outside skin and its condition. When this outer layer is peeled off, one may come across a few leaves that are edible and then we come across a leaf/layer that gone brown or even mouldy (miasm). Peel that one off too and more good leaves may be seen until we come across another brown leaf under which a green shoot is waiting to come out and get light and moisture.
The shape and colour of the onion will define its species.

But the condition of the onion defines its status and what you may do with it. Sometimes it is perfect from the outer skin - especially when just harvested.
I have learnt that remedies have many facets and these will include many shapes and sizes of patient.

So one Puls patient may be as Irene has kindly described, but will all Puls patient have a similar body shape? My experience says No!
Such body attributes, may give one a good lead on to potential remedy, but by no means do they define their constitution or needs.
Just look how many different face colours can be covered by Sulphur!
I would suggest David Little's articles make a good starting point for many colleagues:

http://www.simillimum.com/education/lit ... icle01.php

Kind regards

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 16 September 2015 16:00
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] About constitutional remedy
Hi Irene,

Yes, but the problem is you set up a practice in India, China or Nigeria and you keep waiting for a chance to use pulsatilla, but no blue eyed blonde haired women come in.
Are you making fun of my work?

There is NOTHING in my post or work or principles or writings anywhere that remotely suggests any such thing.
ICT is a few decades - three - of research into features that are innate for each ICT. By that I do not mean features that MAY be present (like eye color) but features that are sure - like leg to torso ratios.

But no homeopath worth their salt ever "waits for a case of XYZ"

You start with presenting features, and THAT leads to a remedy.

I have little time for a homeopath who "looks for a case of Puls" or any other remedy. It is backwards (as by now I am well known for stressing).

You look for patient symptoms and features .... you do not look for a remedy...the patient features wil lead you to itl

I have yet to use eye color in ICT work, but it is one of the ten thousand or more potential rubrics any ICT has.
Again it is backwards...I look at what features are there as if I have no knowledge of remedies at all.

The study of remedies for anything chronic is actually a huge detriment, as it leads to "trying to see Puls" or some remedy - in the patient...common but HUGE mistake.
It is essential to look at the features without bias of what YOU think Puls or some or other remedy looks like.

You then choose what features are most reliable or dominant and from those you are LED to a remedy that suits the features - the same as any other repertorizing. Never ever look to see if soemone "is a Puls" or "is a Lach" etc.
This is for the same reasons in ICT repping, as applies when repping for a simillimum.

The problem with workig as you describe - backwards - is:

You can get a list of rubrics for ANY remedy - all ten tousand or so - and you WILL find matching ones to the individual no matter WHAT remedy you choose - but to call that a fit is total ficvtion and you will lose the case.

ALL remedies have SO many rubriucs that it is easy to "make a case" for the remedy in ANY individual with ANY illness - if yo are the kind of homeopath who works backwards like this!

(This is less of a danger with ICT where less features overlap between remedies - but is a huge danger with Simillimum - howeer the principle of using features of individual and NOT starting with a remedy - is relevant in both.)
Otherwise it is like saying the green shoelaces mean everything green is a shoelace.
SO for ICt repping you MUST select the appropriate set of features that makes an individial unique, and let THOSE lead to a remedy - it would be wise to give all remedies random names first so nobody can guess if a remedy fits.... and everyoe should be forced to use the symptoms to LEAD to the randomly named remedy

THat is so for simillimum selection and for ICT selection.

Bias due to known common features of any remedy - is a DETRIMENT to good homeopathy.

Knowing a remedy is good in emergencies only..so you can grab arnica 1m for a heart attack before it kills or Lach 200C for snakebite before that kills or Calendula ticture for bleeding before that kills or Ledum for catbite before you get blood poisoning etc.
For chronic issues, and ICT, knowing anything about any remedy - is a bad thing

You need to know about the patient. Not the remedy.

If you want to study something, study individuals, not remedies.
and then she happens to be blue/blonde, you can feel more certain of the remedy. At least that's how I first learnt puls.
Sorry yo got that - lousy way to learn anything.

Where did you study to "see symptoms of Puls" in anyone?

No school should be teaching backwards homeopathy where yo see remedies in individuals.
For chronic cases you need to forget what you learned about all the remedies and select properly.
I have no clue why you suggest the developer of the ICT system would put in a few decades of serius research including successful case records and then somehow be doing something so ridiculous and ineffective.
My ICT work has shown great efficacy compared with simillimum work in practice - for several years now - but they each have a place (ICT and SIillimunm). I am sharing my successful development of ICT as a system of health here and why and how it works. It would never have wotked if I was doing some sloppy blue eyes are Puls type assumptions.

(My initial post on it made that clear too, you seem to have missed it.)
The "essence" of an ICT case includes ALL relevant innate characteristics. The questionnaire I use asks for body measurements and features in detail. When I have eliminated enough remedies to be down to a dozen or so, I will ask more questions (I work by email with animal owners) or ask for photos or a video of how they walk or whatever I need to differentiate the short list.
I have had greater success in ICT remedy use than in Simillimum use, for immnue compromise cases, and not becasue I developed a poor system:-)
I am blind and deaf in that I work by email but more importantly becasue I am not a memory fanatic about remedies - I intentionally forget I know anything about any remedy when I start a case and select its relevant features.


The problem is some homeopaths have been taught, and also practice this way, that as a blue/blonde women walks in, you can reach for the puls.
They - and their tutors - deserve to be shot.
Give the remedies random names - THEN repertorize and see which is correct as a match.

I am very much agaist the rote learning of supposed remedies. It makes for lousy homeopaths.

Nobody learns ALL the ten thousand EQUALLY IMPORTANT rubrtics that apply, for ALL the 5000 or so remedies and so whatever they learn is biased and misused - both to look for remedies in idividuals AND by knowing only a small fraction of the RELEVANT rubrics of any remedy ANd by being led (by the nose) to see noses as ermedies instead of seeing a set of characteristics to be sought iside the pictures of remedies - usign ALL of the picture for ever remedy.
There is NO way to use that memorization of remedies mess to find a correct homeopathic match - ICT or Siillimum.

Yet that is what CHC or whatever it is called, wants and uses to "test" proficiency. It is a memory test about remedies and can only turn out terrible homeopaths.
An average remedy has ten thousand rubrics and NOBODY knows that many.

They know some commonly known ones which means if the ones needed are NOT commonnly known they will be ignored when in fact they are equally relevant or may be MORE relevant in a case.
Hence for Chronic cases adn ICT, I am in favor of anonymous remedies - to guarantee all relevant features are sought that are in the individual - a balanced total set - and that THOSE alone - together - lead to the remedy of uniknown name. One should only allow a homeopath to look up the remedy name repertorized, AFTER they finish repertorizing.
You have not been reading my posts or you would never suggest I would work backwards.

I am always passionately against such sloppy work, and do NOT teach such junk in my own school.

If it was up to me, every repertory would have arbitrary random remedy names assigned at the start of each repping, that only went away and replaced with the real names AFTER you finished repertorizing.

I do not believe in the "all green things are shoelaces" approach.

How did you manage to suggest I would be in that category?

I can think of no phrase I ever wrote to suggest it?
I was looking forward to an intelligent discussion of the constitutional remedy selection I have researched for some 30 yeas now, not a scorning assumption that "all blue eyes are Puls" or "all green things are shoelaces"
Namaste,

Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info

(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

Hi All,
I would like to undo the misunderstandings about physical features of a constitutional type.
I am not sure why people are hung up on color. Paul talks of blue eyes, and Soroushg talks of skin color - but that is ONE gene and being a majpr gene (one that is either there or not there) it is irrelavnet in constitutionl choices.

The genes that can have a constitutional relevance are the polygenes, which are genes for INTENSITY. So in other words it matters not whether eyes are blue or not, it matters whether eyes are LIGHT (eg light brown or light blue) or whether they are dark (eg dark green or dark brown) .
Same with skin color. It matters only whether the skin is light for the group or dark for the group.. So for example if a couple has ten kids and one of them is lighter or darker than the others - THAT matters. It does not matter whether the family is caicasian, asian, or pink and purple.

The features are ALL relative - relative to the speciers or group. You can not use ANY features that vary between groups. There is no constitutional lizarf or constitutional Korean or constitutional Beagle.
There is only a variation WITHIN the group, that matters.

For example cats come in skinny siamese type and in stocky persian types. BOTH hae memebers of ALL constitutional types.
The slim Calc-phos will be slimmer than other members of the breed - whether the breed is siamese or persian.
And in street cats the calc-phos one will be slimmer than other members of the group from which it is bred.

SO constitutional fefatures are all relative, they are all feature variations within the group to which the individual belongs.
For example I am average height in my family (6 foot 3), my sons being 6 foot 6 and 6 foot 10, and my parents being 5 foot 8 and 4 foot 10. SO someone in the family ocver 6 foot 3 would be tall.....relatively.
In a different family, next door, there are ten peple and not one is overe 5 foot 4. Average is likely 4 foot 10.
In THIS family someone over five foot is tall - relatively.
A tall individual in their group can be one of the taller ICTs.

Likewise in a family with nearly all over 6 foot, you might find a 5 foot 11 Sil type, even though Sil is a shorter ICT than most (all this being relative to the group they belong to.)

Separately I shall post a quiz - based ona real example - that everyone can try, and see if they can come up with the right constitutional type. Hopefully that will be fun and educational at the same time.

Soroush, to answer your comment about
This is becasue you are confusing the selection of a Simillimum with the selection of a constitutional remedy.
A constitutional remedy (ICT) has NOTHING to do with presenting symptoms. In fact it is essential to exclude them!
A Simillimum has EVERYTHING to do with presenting symptoms. Constitutional features must be excluded!

If you do not exclude irrelevant aspects of a case, your prescription will often be incorrect.

A SiImillimum can be any remedy - it has no relationship at all with physical constitution.
It is a mistake to confuse the two.
They have different reasons to exist.

Constitutional remedy (ICT) is NOT used against illness symptoms ever. It can be used in totally healthy individuals and in deathly ill ones, but it has nothing to do with the illness symptoms. It will address the health and robustness of the body, aligned with genetic predispositions and miasms and all aspects of innate (inherited and present from birth) aspects of that body - its "costitution". It will NOT address a current disese with pressenting symptoms.

Simillimum IS used against illness symptoms, always. It is directly geared to act against disease, but it is NOT geared to repair constitutional predispositions as the constitutional remedy does.
Example a constitutionally Lachesis individual has mastitis. On repertorizing the best remedy for th epresentig symptoms is phytolacca - not Lachesis. Phytolacca is a Simillimum. Lachesis woudl be a constitutional remey and it would take forever to help the mastitis with Lach, because a constitutional remedy never addresses disease - it works to repair immune system NOT mastitis. AFTER the immune system is repaired, then IT will heal the mastitis - so you can get there in the end with a constitutional match. But it is BETTER to use a diserase match - a simillimum, as anyone will tell yo who has had mastitis - it needs fixing FAST.
In cats for example, imagine a mastitis - it affects the entire undercarriage of the cat - very painfully. A SImillimum is the way to go, NOT a constitutional remedy.

However, if a disease has few symptoms and is misdiagnosed or unknown as to body damage being caused internally, it may be better to use a Constitutional remedy and repair the immune system so it can address "whatever" unknown disease is causing the problem....maybe an epigene switch issue for example.

The BEST use of constitutional remedy is for prevention of illness.
SO my new kitten who arrived two days ago will get his constitutional remedy for this purpose. He is very hale and hearty and healthy right now, not vaccinated, no drugs used on him.
I shall post an example in quiz form so you can hopefully see the difference between a truly well chosen constitutional remedy and what you are doing always - wich is not constitutional despite your claim that it is, but Simillimum.
ANy color can be Suphur of course - you are not seeing the need to look at RELATIVE color/size/etc - relative to the group to which that sulphur belongs.

Constitutional features are ALL relative to the group of which the individual is a member.
THat is how to apply them in ALL species.
SO if you know the RELATIVE issues for a constitutioanl type, (the only ones that are valid) they can be applied in giraffes, hamsters, alligators, snakes, caucasians, neanderthals, and the darkest African tribes. The SAME relative rules apply for each ICT. They must be seen within the relevant group.

SO a repertory of constitutional features has no blue eyes of black skin, as those are NOT relative characteristics.
It can have LIGHT eyes and DARK skin - as those can be relative within any group.
It can have specific genes that override others - such as red gene, dilution gene (turns black to grey red to cream etc).
Hair also is relative ad separate from skin shading. For example there are black cats with white skin and black cats with almost black skin.
There are black cats with light black fur and with dark black fur. so dark hair/fur and light hair/fur can be a rubric for constitutions even in a species that has only black hair. Black is NOT one color, it has many shades (though humans are poor at seeing black shades compared to other color shades.)

Constitutional physical features are relative - reatively wide shoulders, reatively long tail, relatively dark hair, relatively broad chest, relatively long torso, relatively big feet, relatively light or heavy landings when jumping, etc

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Soroush Ebrahimi]

Dear Irene

Perhaps it was not realised that the references to some body features made by myself and perhaps Paul were 'tongue in cheek'!
However, as part of Minutus's role to educate about homeopathy, I think it will be very useful if you would take time and describe ICT in detail - perhaps over several posts and days (so that you do not get tired), its origins, what it actually stands for and how you would use it.
THANKS

Soroush
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 17 September 2015 08:26
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] About constitutional remedy
Hi All,

I would like to undo the misunderstandings about physical features of a constitutional type.

I am not sure why people are hung up on color. Paul talks of blue eyes, and Soroushg talks of skin color - but that is ONE gene and being a majpr gene (one that is either there or not there) it is irrelavnet in constitutionl choices.
The genes that can have a constitutional relevance are the polygenes, which are genes for INTENSITY. So in other words it matters not whether eyes are blue or not, it matters whether eyes are LIGHT (eg light brown or light blue) or whether they are dark (eg dark green or dark brown) .

Same with skin color. It matters only whether the skin is light for the group or dark for the group.. So for example if a couple has ten kids and one of them is lighter or darker than the others - THAT matters. It does not matter whether the family is caicasian, asian, or pink and purple.
The features are ALL relative - relative to the speciers or group. You can not use ANY features that vary between groups. There is no constitutional lizarf or constitutional Korean or constitutional Beagle.

There is only a variation WITHIN the group, that matters.
For example cats come in skinny siamese type and in stocky persian types. BOTH hae memebers of ALL constitutional types.

The slim Calc-phos will be slimmer than other members of the breed - whether the breed is siamese or persian.

And in street cats the calc-phos one will be slimmer than other members of the group from which it is bred.
SO constitutional fefatures are all relative, they are all feature variations within the group to which the individual belongs.

For example I am average height in my family (6 foot 3), my sons being 6 foot 6 and 6 foot 10, and my parents being 5 foot 8 and 4 foot 10. SO someone in the family ocver 6 foot 3 would be tall.....relatively.

In a different family, next door, there are ten peple and not one is overe 5 foot 4. Average is likely 4 foot 10.

In THIS family someone over five foot is tall - relatively.

A tall individual in their group can be one of the taller ICTs.
Likewise in a family with nearly all over 6 foot, you might find a 5 foot 11 Sil type, even though Sil is a shorter ICT than most (all this being relative to the group they belong to.)
Separately I shall post a quiz - based ona real example - that everyone can try, and see if they can come up with the right constitutional type. Hopefully that will be fun and educational at the same time.
Soroush, to answer your comment about
This is becasue you are confusing the selection of a Simillimum with the selection of a constitutional remedy.

A constitutional remedy (ICT) has NOTHING to do with presenting symptoms. In fact it is essential to exclude them!

A Simillimum has EVERYTHING to do with presenting symptoms. Constitutional features must be excluded!
If you do not exclude irrelevant aspects of a case, your prescription will often be incorrect.
A SiImillimum can be any remedy - it has no relationship at all with physical constitution.

It is a mistake to confuse the two.

They have different reasons to exist.
Constitutional remedy (ICT) is NOT used against illness symptoms ever. It can be used in totally healthy individuals and in deathly ill ones, but it has nothing to do with the illness symptoms. It will address the health and robustness of the body, aligned with genetic predispositions and miasms and all aspects of innate (inherited and present from birth) aspects of that body - its "costitution". It will NOT address a current disese with pressenting symptoms.
Simillimum IS used against illness symptoms, always. It is directly geared to act against disease, but it is NOT geared to repair constitutional predispositions as the constitutional remedy does.

Example a constitutionally Lachesis individual has mastitis. On repertorizing the best remedy for th epresentig symptoms is phytolacca - not Lachesis. Phytolacca is a Simillimum. Lachesis woudl be a constitutional remey and it would take forever to help the mastitis with Lach, because a constitutional remedy never addresses disease - it works to repair immune system NOT mastitis. AFTER the immune system is repaired, then IT will heal the mastitis - so you can get there in the end with a constitutional match. But it is BETTER to use a diserase match - a simillimum, as anyone will tell yo who has had mastitis - it needs fixing FAST.

In cats for example, imagine a mastitis - it affects the entire undercarriage of the cat - very painfully. A SImillimum is the way to go, NOT a constitutional remedy.
However, if a disease has few symptoms and is misdiagnosed or unknown as to body damage being caused internally, it may be better to use a Constitutional remedy and repair the immune system so it can address "whatever" unknown disease is causing the problem....maybe an epigene switch issue for example.
The BEST use of constitutional remedy is for prevention of illness.

SO my new kitten who arrived two days ago will get his constitutional remedy for this purpose. He is very hale and hearty and healthy right now, not vaccinated, no drugs used on him.
I shall post an example in quiz form so you can hopefully see the difference between a truly well chosen constitutional remedy and what you are doing always - wich is not constitutional despite your claim that it is, but Simillimum.
ANy color can be Suphur of course - you are not seeing the need to look at RELATIVE color/size/etc - relative to the group to which that sulphur belongs.



Constitutional features are ALL relative to the group of which the individual is a member.

THat is how to apply them in ALL species.

SO if you know the RELATIVE issues for a constitutioanl type, (the only ones that are valid) they can be applied in giraffes, hamsters, alligators, snakes, caucasians, neanderthals, and the darkest African tribes. The SAME relative rules apply for each ICT. They must be seen within the relevant group.
SO a repertory of constitutional features has no blue eyes of black skin, as those are NOT relative characteristics.

It can have LIGHT eyes and DARK skin - as those can be relative within any group.

It can have specific genes that override others - such as red gene, dilution gene (turns black to grey red to cream etc).

Hair also is relative ad separate from skin shading. For example there are black cats with white skin and black cats with almost black skin.

There are black cats with light black fur and with dark black fur. so dark hair/fur and light hair/fur can be a rubric for constitutions even in a species that has only black hair. Black is NOT one color, it has many shades (though humans are poor at seeing black shades compared to other color shades.)
Constitutional physical features are relative - reatively wide shoulders, reatively long tail, relatively dark hair, relatively broad chest, relatively long torso, relatively big feet, relatively light or heavy landings when jumping, etc
Namaste,

Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info

(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Jean Doherty]

Would Grant Bentely’s facial analysis fit in with your method of accessing body types, Thank you,, Jean

[Irene de Villiers]

Hi Jean,
I have only seen the cover of the book, and have not read it - so I can not say for sure.
But I notice the cover has seven Caucasian faces, which makes me wonder how his rules (whatever they may be) can be adapted to horses, pigs, zebras and any other non-Caucasian individuals.
Rubrics of constitutional type must apply to ALL living groups to be valid.
One has only to look at persian cats and siamese cats to see the problem.
The constitutional issues MUST be relative values so that they can be applied in ANY group, including persians and siamese.
I would accept a "narrow long face" rubric as that can be aplied within a group, for example a persian with a RELATIVELY narrow long face - relative to the average persian.
Or a "shorter face than usual" - which can be applied to people, siamese, persians and any other life form with a face.
That must be so - a rubtic must be universal to all with the feature in question.
Tails on cats are useful in ICT work, tails on humans also may apply but are not used - may need an xray to see their relative proportions:-)
SO tail rubrics are good even though not all life forms have them. The rubric must apply to all who do have them.

Maybe he does that - rubrics that apply to all living types, maybe not, have you read the book, can you say how his types are defined and whether his rules would apply in ANY ethnic group, species, or breed?
I like your question.
Since I had no definitive answer, I figure I owe you an extra clue to Leo's ICT:
If you lift him by the tummy, his legs go stiff and look for somewhere to get purchase. (Not a type who will be a gymnnast - wants his feet literally on the ground or on somewhere firm.)

Namaste,
Irene
PS During development of my ICT system, I have intentionally avoided ALL other authors on constitutions and constitutional types, and read NONE of them, in order to be sure to have no bias in developing ICT from my genetics background.
However, at this point after using ICT for several years in practice, I feel I have the principles and implementation approach well secured and would be open to reading what others think in ther books - or here. It can no longer bias my own ICT approach, and may even add to it.
But my budget is going nowhere at present. So all those books will wait.

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Irene de Villiers]

I missed the joke yes, sorry about that - perhaps the problem is partly the lack of intonation in emails - also likely my own situation - my own pasionate involvement in ICT development, it has been such a serious one since 1984 and I use it in terminal cases daily, where Simillimum has no chance.
I am currently working with a cat owner day and night whose cat is a death's door. So my funnybone is in hiding from overetiredness and discomfort from an injury (torn diaphragm) a week ago
Happy to do that as and when I can

Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Vicki Satta]

Irene, I just want to say that I do not understand anything about ICT, but I do understand and highly respect your work and the outcomes of it. I get the feeling that you save lives. The world is better because of what you do, and I hope you are teaching many people to do the ICT work. The pet owners of this country and the world need people like you who are willing to work night and day for their animals who have no option other than homeopathy and your wisdom.

I respect your passion and your tireless work for the cats and dogs who are fortunate enough to get to you. May you be blessed with whatever you need to continue with your work and many students who can carry on with it in all parts of the world.

May I humbly speak for all of the pets and their owners you have helped by offering a giant THANK YOU for all you do?

Vicki

[Irene de Villiers]

Dear Vicki,

Thank you for your very lovely tribute, and for the generous good wishes included in it.
It is true I work many hours for animals in dire need and also that I wish to share my ICT work with the world.
One lesson I wrote in the BIH course for the D.Vet.Hom, is on ICT but there is much more.
I teach it at my own school where I know one of my strudents uses it a lot but I have very few students.
I have decribed individual ICTs on various lists.

So that amounts to a smattrering of information in the scheme of things. It is a big subject.

SO I am happy that Soroush invited me to outline ICT here.

Thank you very much for your endorsement of my work in general, and the good wishes for my progress.

My current case needs all the technology we can toss at it. It involves a cat rescued by the owner when he was in Afghanistan some years ago, a kitten est at age 3 months then, the mother cat no longer alive, the kitten in a bad way. He took it home to Iceland and nursed it back to health but the vet had applied steroids. (Practically guarantees FIP to follow) Now the cat is adult, but it is blind and worse, it now has FIP, and the owner is away at a conference overseas, cannot go home. He had approached a local homeopath in Iceland who really let him down badly. So I am trying to help pick up the pieces and hope it is not too late ...by emailing him what needs to be done to help him treat the cat in Iceland - he phones his sister and niece in Iceland - and the feedback comes back in reverse order. They are 7 hrs ahead of me.

Such a case could not have existed without internet technology
But by nature - being FIP - it is touch and go all the time and stressful for all involved. The indirect communication is not ideal, but this makes things happen where we really need local homeopathic pet hospitals with full time homeopaths and intensive care. To get a success against such odds is a small miracle. (also hard work for all involved.)
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Shannon Nelson]

Yes!!
Grant was asked about other body features, and his reply was that same process could be applied in a huge variety of ways, different systems, different selections of features, but he had found that using the facial features proved both manageable and very effective, so he has simply concentrated on that.

Personally I would think that adding in body type correlations would be useful!
Irene -- it's just the same as the process you would need to go through, in applying your evaluation process to e.g. different breeds of cat, or moving cross-species. You simply compare the features with what is "average" for the most-applicable base group that you can identify.

Also, there are the same caveats and difficulties that we occasionally run into, when deciding how to interpret or weight or use different aspects of a case, and where it is sometimes necessary to solicit input from their friends and family (giving both more objectivity, but also giving a better insight on what's normal *in the context of that patient*.)

Or e.g. in treating a dog, to know the characteristics that are normal to the breed (similar to race in humans, I would think?).

So, you might judge "short legs" in a Manx, for a leg-length much longer than what you'd see in an average mixed-breed feral cat. Similarly, by Grant's method facial features are compared with what is "average" for the person's race and age (what else…), so far as is known.
Yes -- with the caveat that you need to have some idea of what's normal or average for the group.

[Shannon Nelson]

And let me add my hoorays at the prospect of more here about the ICTs!!!

I have been trying to save all of your descriptions here right along, but have lost some to computer crashes and upgrades. Am doing my best to save them.