Minutus

Irene, writing to every congress member is a good thought but that process takes a long time and alot of patience from the organizer side (since we have to remind people every day to do it, and we have no way of knowing that it has been done) organizing a mass protest against laws that curb our free choice is in my opinion a lot faster and more effective - then plus nerving the c-members plus telling the NCH to do its job. I will start a Pincrest Cause and a Care2 cause to get some of the public involved.
Gisela
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 04:11:11 -0700
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Legislation as a danger to homeopathy: Attn Dana Ullman and David Little
Write to congress members en masse.
Tell everyine to do it and get ten others to do it and pass it on to the next ten....

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Maria - you probably have been following my post on minitus - got some responses but it seems the community is not easily aroused - well I am in I will work on this but as a platform of - Freedom to the right to choose- I think that will be a more easily attainable - PA is trying to license ND's as the only ones to practise Homeopathy.

Let me know your thoughts and what we could do in your opinion
Gisela
And have a Happy Eastern!

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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 11:13:18 -0400
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Legislation as a danger to homeopathy: Attn Dana Ullman and David Little
I got that information with a 'please share it'.

Yes, there are organizations getting together. I think for this kind of thing we need lots and lots of organizations, one will not do it. AND we need to bombard our Congressmen with this bill.

Yes, bombard, call them!! A call is worth a thousand names on a petition. An email is also worth a lot.

Big money is paying to sneak this legislation in under our nose. This, just like the GMO legislation is burried in a large document and they hoped we would not see it and the public would not be aware of it.

We need to hit these congress people on THREE fronts to protect ourselves in the USA - 1) on freedom of choice to purchase or use homeopathic medicine, herbals and vitamins. 2) the right to chose vaccination or not 3) And, we want GMO's labeled in the USA.

We are being worn down by this kind of thing. The hearings will be held, but hearings like petitions go un-noticed if possible. Lets be honest here,
big money is being donated to large campaigns, and big money talks. BUT the poiliticians want to be re-elected, If we call them and tell them what we want in no uncertain terms they MUST listen to us or they will not be re-elected. So they need to be hit where it does the most good. WE want their vote against this legislation. We want the right to choose what is right for ourselves, not let big brother and the pharmaceuticals and the GMO people force us into using what they produce, it is our choice.

Realize they are trying to wear us down. Even if we win this one, there will be another one as soon as we feel confident it is over, another will be snuck in under our noses. Big Pharma stands to lose a lot of money if we win, and they have the money to keep on plugging at this. Only people, one at a time, calling up and demanding results can win this for us.

So, please, please, please put your organizations together, we need a united front of many organizations all with a lot of people in them all calling our Congressmen and women and demanding our rights. That is the only way this is going to be ok.

Maria

Actually the homeopathic community is being mobilized, most of the organizations are burning up emails with this.

The first step is the FDA hearing on this coming up, Step 2 is going to be the testimonials. I am told if this FDA plan goes through we will not be able to purchase any 'animal' or 'nosode' remedies, we will be allowed about 75 remedies. Not good.

We are going to need lots and lots of letters from our clients who say 'homeopathy works'.

I was told homeopathic remedies are a billion dollar business in the USA today, Was that 3 billion?? Of course they do not want us, all that beautiful money curing people? Too many greedy people do not want us to have that happen.

Maria
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WELL GOOD BUT WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING? I will post on Facebook etc. but like to do more what about mobilizing on the day of the hearing? I am good when I am angry
Gisela
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2015 12:36:47 -0400
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Legislation as a danger to homeopathy: Attn Dana Ullman and David Little
Actually the homeopathic community is being mobilized, most of the organizations are burning up emails with this.

The first step is the FDA hearing on this coming up, Step 2 is going to be the testimonials. I am told if this FDA plan goes through we will not be able to purchase any 'animal' or 'nosode' remedies, we will be allowed about 75 remedies. Not good.

We are going to need lots and lots of letters from our clients who say 'homeopathy works'.

I was told homeopathic remedies are a billion dollar business in the USA today, Was that 3 billion?? Of course they do not want us, all that beautiful money curing people? Too many greedy people do not want us to have that happen.

Maria
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I disagree with writing to Congress. The path that came through from Maria's original information is that the FDA is opening up comments. That s/b the focus of our attention (in my opinion).

Vicki
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Time to add my two cents' worth. FWIW, many years ago I did some successful lobbying on behalf of a rare diseases database and a specific disease called IgA Nephropathy. It's incredibly hard work, demanding constant attention and extreme perseverance.
What I found most effective -- i.e., the most bang for the least amount of blood, sweat, and tears -- was the following:
1) Letters to members of Congress (and even personal visits) help but only at the margin. It was much more effective to target members of the bureaucracy -- e.g., people at the NIH who weren't funding research studies or, in the case of the rare diseases database, the faceless bureaucrat at OMB who'd killed funding for the project. They're not used to receiving mail; members of Congress are.
2) Write a compelling letter, one that it's hard to argue against. In the case of IgA Nephropathy I was able to show that the USG was spending far more on taking care of people who went into ESRF from this disease than it was on understanding it and finding ways to arrest its inexorable progression. (Of course, getting to that point involved persuading the CDC to reverse-engineer statistics to figure out incidence and prevalence -- using European statistics, because there weren't any available in the U.S., not even from insurance codes.)
3) Send that letter as an "example" to everyone you know, asking them to write a similar letter to their Congressman, etc., and to their friends. It's a lot easier now with the Internet, but that means mass responses are also somewhat cheapened in their worth.
4) Most important of all, get some favorable press! Write op-ed pieces, have friendly reporters interview you, speak out!! If you can get public testimonials from patients, so much the better.
But -- and it's a big but -- a campaign such as this requires is probably best fought as an attempted usurpation of our rights, a power grab by the corporations, as with fracking, GMOs, and the TTP. I don't think we're going to win folks over by trying to defend homeopathy as such, alas. There are just too few who understand it. But people do understand the concept of public taking for private gain, which is what this boils down to.
Peace,
Dale
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I do not see it that way Gisela.
Last night I wrote a long email to more than a thosand people urging them to contact their congress member, and giving them the background, the link to find the contact for their congress rep contact so they can do it easily and right away and the link to place direct comments on the bill to the FDA and asked them all to start a system of telling others to do it and asking them in turn to ask others.

One must shake ALL the apple trees till an apple falls out, not just the ones you think might or might not be easy to shake

Some trees to shake:

Finding your congressman/woman:
There is no official list of email addresses, but this leads you to contacts by zipcode:
http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/
Information on how to submit comments electronically, at this website: http://www.regulations.gov/#!searchResu ... ue;ns=true
The docket is # FDA-2015-N-0540.
Comments will be accepted through June 22
Namaste,
Irene

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

I DO think this is the end product we need.
Freedom of Health Care is as basic as freedom of religion.
It is really no different.
It will likely need an amendment to the constitution, the same as freedom of religion - except for freedom of health.
How else do we have the right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness?
Certainly freedom of health is prerequisite for MY right to life liberty and the pursiut of happiness.

There are steps to getting to this constitutional amendment rule.
We need to see that and climb the steps.
ONE of the steps is to stop the current anti-homeopahty action by FDA
Getting congress involves NOW is relevant as only Congress can pass health freedom law.

There is a method at state level - required before an amendment can be made - that worked for veterinary drug companies, to change the law, (thought they did not push for the final step of Federal change at the constitutional level) which we can copy.
Note: Bayer and Hills Science Diet together, late last century, spent app 2 Billion dollars for the study they did to come up with this method of "getting rid of the competition from alternative health" and 6 other vmpanies joined them at the lobbyone stage, in return for THEIR products being promoted b y AVMA through vet clinics.
So this is valuable free information from them. We just need to turn the tables.
What their "get rid of the competition" study showed is what they did:
* They wrote the law they wanted to see. (In their case the "new" definition of the practice of veterinary medicine).
It was carefully worded to exclude what they did not want while promoting safety.
* They called it a "Model veterinary practice Law" (Ours would be a "Model Health Freedom Law")
* They wrote a good justification for why the law would make it safer for the people. (critically important step)
* They got this lobbied into place in each state, (sometimes at 2am with a minimum selected quorum).
(expensive but we could use mass petitions as our more legitimate approach.)
AFTER geting A Health Freedom law into each state, or most of them, then we go for a constitutional amendment - this being AFTER the public is educated as to its benefit, and the states are on board with health freedom laws.
Do NOT think that current Health Freedom laws in a few states have any validity.
They are written specifically to counter "Obamacare" and to give people a choice to not use it.
They do NOTHING to protect homeopathy as a choice.
BUT - We should bear in mind public wishes that they see that also as part of health-choice freedom
We should write our Model Health-choice Freedom Law accordingly.
We ALSO need to get this Minutus list MADE PRIVATE ASAP
Strategic planning is not something we need public, in fact the Vets who had their idea has it publicly accessible for TWO DAYS and pulled it....wisely...else it gets undermined.
Soroush? Please help? This is critical to homeopathy survival.
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

I never got one email, burned or otherwise.
Yet I have a group of more than a thousand cat lovers who hear what I say.
Maybe they shoud send them before they burn them?
Do they not know Minutus as the boggest homepathy group needs an email either?
Is anyone there thinking? Where is "there"?
It has always been a problem that there is no common sense or intelligent homeopathy strategic representation.
Sad. We need it.

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Yeah that's all we need, infighting and discouragement of positive progress.

Shame on you Vivki.
The FDA has a history of asking for comments and ignoring them.
Place them anyway.
But ALSO lobby congress who are by LAW required to listed to and represent their constituents.
If yo are too lazy to do both you can cut and paste the comments from one to the other.

......Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."