Minutus

Well, that's an interesting point, and I won't dismiss it. And yet… It *bothers* me far less than e.g. bathing in chlorinated city water (even briefly); and one would have to weigh that possible burden, against the certain burden caused by receding gums and decaying teeth -- both of which I have been battling. The teeth for my entire life, and the gums only for some years, but they had started to give problems.

Fluoridated water -- that is a burden I have been sadly unable to figure out how to eliminate when I'm in the city. I haven't yet got hold of a filter that will take it out, tho I understand there now are some on the market. Anyone have a fix for that?

Sometimes there is a question of trade-offs, and I do appreciate expanding my understanding of just what those might be. (But I'm still going to keep using it on my teeth off-and-on, because I do not like dental work!!!!)
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Shannon,

There are many rxs for gum/decaying teeth. Why not repertorize and cure yourself?

Paulette
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thu, 19 Feb 2015 18:19:14 -0600
Subject: Re: [Minutus] MMS Aftertaste - Looking for Chlorine Dioxide Potency

Well, that's an interesting point, and I won't dismiss it. And yet… It *bothers* me far less than e.g. bathing in chlorinated city water (even briefly); and one would have to weigh that possible burden, against the certain burden caused by receding gums and decaying teeth -- both of which I have been battling. The teeth for my entire life, and the gums only for some years, but they had started to give problems.
Fluoridated water -- that is a burden I have been sadly unable to figure out how to eliminate when I'm in the city. I haven't yet got hold of a filter that will take it out, tho I understand there now are some on the market. Anyone have a fix for that?

Sometimes there is a question of trade-offs, and I do appreciate expanding my understanding of just what those might be. (But I'm still going to keep using it on my teeth off-and-on, because I do not like dental work!!!!)
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Long story. And a continuing one.
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Rule of thumb: Anything 'generally powerful' is powerful in all ways
(good and bad).

Irene de Villiers furryboots@icehouse.net [minutus] schreef op 19-2-2015
om 19:43:

Shannon,
Per Banerjea in Miasmatic Prescribing:
Sycotic misam "teeth visibly rotten above gum line"
Syphilitic miasm "teeth rot below the gumline. Often jammed together, malformed, or have gaps in between. Orthodontic treatment is required to make room in the mouth for the teeth as they come through."
Tubercular miasm "bleeding gums"
Psoric miasm "poor teeth, often small"
Are you using toothpaste with or without fluoride?
Any pre/post rinses?
Reverse osmosis or steam distillation can remove most fluoride from water, there are filters claiming they remove most of it like activated alumina.
Dasani brand bottled water uses RO on tap water, they add back some minerals like magnesium, potassium back
Stream distilled water is easily found in store but long term consumption is not recommended
Early Death Comes From Drinking Distilled Water
http://bit.ly/1AXpPEv
Spring water is mostly fluoride free or very low levels.
Susan

Still poisonous. Chlorine is a nono.
I surely would not put it in my mouth!
Use baking soda now and then on teeth - not all the time, it is too abrasive.
And use a hydrofloss for under the gums. And Nori for iodine to strengthen teeth.

Chlorine is toxic and cumulative.
The idea that you "feel" it is tolerated does not make is safe.
Many chemicals are lethal at levels too dilute to smell at all. Sense of smell, taste, etc is no guide.

I would play safe - why use a toxin when you do not need to do so.

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

No, INGESTING oxidizers is a mistake.
We need oxyygen for energy and ANTI-oxidants to protest it.

People use oxidizers as microbial toxins - it as an alternative to toxic antibiotics. Very poisonous and allopathic and unwise.
Actually, ATP runs our energy cycles. (Adenosine triphosphate) and does so by three methods:

1. Some ATP is made from creatine phosphate to be available immediayrly in the muslces, but not much, just enough to get going or do a short action like lifting something.

2. More ATP is made from glucose which we get from food. Called anaerobic glycolysis, this does not use oxygen either, but makes ATP enough for slightly longer activities.

3. The third wasy ATP is made (and the only one using oxygen) uses the oxygen we breathe, to burn carbohydrates and fat. The rate at which this ATP is made this way is slow, but can go on for a longer duration. Carbs and fat ONLY break down in presence of oxygen.
ATP is what we use for energy. Once ATP energy is released for use in metabolism, the ATP is converted back into its precursores, ready to recycle via the above 3 methods.

Oxygen is conserved if we swallow ANTI-oxidants.
When fatty acids break down to produce energy, (by oxidation) the free radicals need to attach to ANTI-oxidants or else they will do body damage.

So Oxidation is not what we want. It has to happen in some body poroicezses but the resultant radicals need to be mopped up by anti-oxidants ot they do harm.
Oxidation otherwise damages the cellular proteins of the body, its DNA and lipids and other structures. When oxygen is metabolized, it creates "free radicals" (positively charged items) which then steal electrons and cause damage. The body can cope with a few free radicals (and several p rocesses produce them) but th at does not make them beneficial and an overload causes everything from heart and liver disease to cancer. (eg eye lens damage, joint arthritis, damage to nerve cells and brain, accelleration of ageing process, and cancers via damaged DNA)
It is HARD to get enough ANTI-oxidants to keep the body damage from oxidation in check.

(I would knock off the chlorine ingestion if I were you!)

Namaste,
Irene

PS Dunno where you read your biochemistry but I woud find a better site, like a university lecture site.

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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.Furryboots.info
(Info on Feline health, genetics, nutrition & homeopathy)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Thanks Susan,

I do know those dental associations, and they've played a helpful part for me in the past. Thanks for the reminders.

Re taking out fluorine, thanks, I thought RO didn't take it out (and I think the others weren't yet on the market when I was looking, some 20 years ago). Thanks for updating my information.

Shannon

Thanks Irene, I do understand your points.
All noted.