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Re: Ebola, Science, Politics, Prevention and Cure

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:04 pm
by Roger B
Prove it.

Roger Bird
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2014 14:11:34 -0800
Subject: [Minutus] Re: Ebola, Science, Politics, Prevention and Cure

Ebola is a food born condition. It is very hard to transmit to others. The NWO is scaring the populous so that they will take a vaccine developed to kill them.
Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

Re: Ebola, Science, Politics, Prevention and Cure

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:07 pm
by Sheri Nakken
good grief
why do you to speak like this to Carmi?
Sheri
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Re: Ebola, Science, Politics, Prevention and Cure

Posted: Mon Nov 24, 2014 11:12 pm
by healthinfo6
Could be an aggravation or proving from Chocolate! ;)
Susan

Re: Ebola, Science, Politics, Prevention and Cure

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 2:27 am
by comdyne2002
I really didn't want to go there but I see that my comment has stirred up a hornet's nest. A goo thing to have differences in opinion as we all learn much from each other.

My contention that Ebola is a bacteria rests with the fact that many infectious microbes are pleomorphic. The organisms pass through stages in their life cycles and mutate into predicable and repeatable forms based largely upon the conditions in the media in which they are found. Rife, for example, found a virus sized organism (no doubt a mycoplasma) which he called a virus, which by definition, isn't a live entity but rather a fragment of protein that splixes into the RNA/DNA strand thus hijacking the organism and altering it for its deadly purpose. Cancer is a fungus yet previously was shifted from an earlier stage when it was virus sized. So yes, I can easily extrapolate the virus being the infantile form of a later stage whereby it morphs into a bacteria and then on to a fungus.

I'm sure a few here will not agree with me but that's OK. That is the nature of discussion groups. If we all agreed with everything others say then there would be little purpose for a discussion group in the first place.

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Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

Re: Ebola, Science, Politics, Prevention and Cure

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:53 am
by Roger B
Because I do not believe that it is true, and I am irritated when I see a lot of people making pronouncements that I find to be absurd. So, I want to see her evidence for her belief. Or are we just accepting anything that anyone says now.

Roger Bird
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 14:07:38 -0800
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: Ebola, Science, Politics, Prevention and Cure

good grief
why do you to speak like this to Carmi?
Sheri
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Re: Ebola, Science, Politics, Prevention and Cure

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 9:53 am
by Roger B
I have not yet taken the chocolate 200C. But I could imagine that it could happen, and in fact I will be seeing if that happens soon.

Roger Bird
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From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2014 17:12:41 -0500
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Ebola, Science, Politics, Prevention and Cure
Could be an aggravation or proving from Chocolate! ;)
Susan

Re: Ebola, Science, Politics, Prevention and Cure

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:17 am
by Irene de Villiers
Like what?

A request to prove an assertion (one that is clearly ridiculous), is a very reasonable response IMO.
..Irene
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Re: Ebola, Science, Politics, Prevention and Cure

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 10:26 am
by Irene de Villiers
That theory was due to the lack of good microscope lenses a very long time ago and is long since known to be untrue.

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Re: Ebola, Science, Politics, Prevention and Cure

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 11:06 am
by comdyne2002
Good microscope lenses? What? Are you trying to tell me that light microscopes can resolve viruses? Look at the stupid photos they put out claiming that the thing is a virus. Horsepucky! Viruses can only be seen via electron micrographs and unless the image has been colorized the micrographs are grey scale.

Pleomorphism has been demonstrated many times over. In fact, you can see some pleomorphic entities shift before your very eyes.

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I'll go one farther. Viruses do not cause disease! Our entire medical dogma is based upon junk science. All disease is caused by deficiencies and toxicities. Germs arrive after the fact and are Nature's scavengers. Medical "science" (I use the term loosely), is fixated on the "Germ Theory" long ago debunked. Our entire medical system is nothing but a grandiose lie. Caveat Emptor! Carmi Hazen

Re: Ebola, Science, Politics, Prevention and Cure

Posted: Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:34 pm
by Irene de Villiers
They can not - but the socalled pleomorphs were first claimed to have been seen on light microscopes.
Most photos do not claim any particular IQ:-)
But the photomicrographs of Ebola virus are very clear.
You are again behind the times.
I have seen some using Correlative fluorescence and electron microscopy.
The fluorescence make a green (or red etc) color for the structure/s targeted.
But it is a single color - depending on what fluorescence is being utilized - with the usual gray scale background
Check out Correlative fluorescence and electron microscopy here:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3059187/
Not in any relevant way in this day and age.

They do IF the individual is susceptible due to lacking thymus health.
In a healthy individual, the invading virus will be attacked and removed by the immune system BEFORE it can cause disease.
I have no interest in dogma.
Science is to do with what nature ACTUALLY does -- what actually happens when virus and human meet for example - physiology, metabolic actions, genetics, chemical reactions etc - it has nothing to do with greed politics of Big PHARMA or drugs or dogma.
No.
Deficiencies and toxins damage the system we have to counter disease, and the damaged system fails to RESIST or fight off, bacteria and viruses and cancerous mutations, adn fails to prevent implementation of epigenes with a bad switch position.
THat is not the same thing as a disease cause.
Deficiency and toxins predispose disease - but they are not the cause of the specific dis-ease.
Germs are not nature's scavengers.
Neutrophils are a better example of a scavenger. They go about scavenging dead cells, allergy antigens, bacteria, viruses, and any other junk that accumulates without their efforts.
There has been no "debunking" of the KNOWLEDGE (not a theory) of how viruses and bacteria function.

Namaste,
Irene
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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."