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Re: possible remedies for this type

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 4:07 am
by bored_chick
hmmm my mom eats a very clean diet lots of water and takes vitamin d iron and magnesium, so I don't think its a dietary thing.....
when the constipation gets bad she gets headaches abdomen swells and is painful to touch

Re: possible remedies for this type

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 7:31 am
by Tanya Marquette
I think the sx are typical during constipation. there is toxic build up because the body is not eliminating the waste.

Has she tried a probiotic? If the gut bacteria are insufficient or have been corrupted by damaging ones, she is in a state
of ill health. Is she eating organic? Or is she eating GMO's which are known to alter gut bacteria in a negative way.

I will share that as a child I often suffered constipation; it was a general state and very uncomfortable. When I gave
up meat the problem disappeared. This is only to say that even when diet seems okay or normative, individually there
may be something being eaten that is not beneficial for the person.

t

Re: possible remedies for this type

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 8:13 am
by Irene de Villiers
Only since Hahnemann's time, have causes been essential to take care of as a homeopath:--)

He is all about removing "maintaining causes".

You can not do that if you do not bother to discern the causes.
Nor will you cure any chronic disease for which the maintaining cause is not known, because the repertory has too many options and no way to differentiate other than maintaining cause - adn becasue the c ause may not be rediated by remedy but by some other necessity.
There is nothing new fangled or "out there" about understanding the cause of any illness. It is absolutely basic and Dr Roz just posted some excellent examples of how we can cause death if we ignore maitaining cause. I see it as irresponsible to ignore that.

Namaste,
Irene
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P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Re: possible remedies for this type

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 10:26 am
by Roger B
That makes perfect sense to me. I used to have to paint my body with magnesium just to keep from serious pain. When I started to adjust my diet to fit my genes better and a few other improvements, I can get by on much less magnesium and haven't painted myself with it in a very long time.

So, theory and experience meet and fall in love. (:->)
Roger Bird
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 15:43:17 -0500
Subject: Re: [Minutus] possible remedies for this type

Actually, I have found repeatedly that I -- I'll speak just for myself here -- need less of *many* nutrients, when my physiology is "tuned" and running well, than when it isn't. And as I think about it, it really makes sense to me. For e.g., some of the nutrients (magnesium being perhaps one of the preeminent ones) are more needed during times and situations of "stress"; and "stress" really is more about internal functioning, than about external circumstances. For many people (often including myself), most of the "stress" has been from either poorly functioning physiology, and/or results of emotional states; not so likely to be from e.g. too many tiger chases or typhoons or other strictly physical circumstances.
I have absolutely found that "the right remedy" *does* reduce nutrient needs; but I definitely agree that this could be the case only up to a point, and you really can't substitute remedies for good food.

So, I am not saying that any remedy would reduce the need to have *any* dietary magnesium, only that, if diet is otherwise good *and* the person's genetic makeup permits, a remedy *can* eliminate the need to take magnesium in supplemental form. The bottom line reason I think that, is that in the past, that's what happened for me (magnesium and several other nutrients). (In the past; currently I am again taking magnesium and other things, buuuuut that's neither here nor there!)

Shannon

Re: possible remedies for this type

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:41 am
by Roger B
The body may do this or that, thanks to homeopathy and nutrition, but the practitioner is going to be confused if they prescribe for a certain constellation of symptoms but it turns out that the symptom was not constitutional but nutritional. I say this from experience because my homeopath prescribed for me Sulfur, but the problem all along, since at least the second grade was high carbs and/or wheat. The Sulfur did good things, I think, but it did not stop me from being a hot-heat. Stopping grains and reducing my carbs made the hot-headedness evaporate. Now I am a large teddy bear easy to get along with. (:->)

Roger Bird
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2014 11:19:58 +1000
Subject: Re: [Minutus] possible remedies for this type

While this is true Roger, homeopathy may take it into account but has never focussed on the cause during treatment - in spite of some of the current practices being promoted "out there".

Homeopathy has always understood that the body's reaction (symptoms) to a state of disease show, in part, the way it is trying to heal and that if that way is supported with a remedy that mimics the symptoms, that self-healing response is supported and strengthened.

Yes, the body is under different stresses and exposures to some of those during Hahnemann's time but apart from removing obstacles to cure - something that has always been a part of homeopathic practice - these new influences do not change the way the human body responds or the way we support its healing efforts. While Hahnemann may not have faced some of the things we have to live with today (the reverse is also true) I doubt they would change his basic practices and instructions.

Kind regards, Fran.
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Re: possible remedies for this type

Posted: Tue Sep 02, 2014 11:42 am
by Roger B
There are many types of constipation. For me, it is only my rectum, if I forget to drink enough water or take enough magnesium or something, I can always do an enema. I tremble at the possibility of what would happen if the stoppage was higher up like in the small intestine.

Roger Bird
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 19:07:07 -0700
Subject: [Minutus] Re: possible remedies for this type
hmmm my mom eats a very clean diet lots of water and takes vitamin d iron and magnesium, so I don't think its a dietary thing.....
when the constipation gets bad she gets headaches abdomen swells and is painful to touch

Re: possible remedies for this type

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 12:53 am
by bored_chick
hmm ok I will try probiotic first and see if it changes..........does anyone here know of the vsl3 probiotic..(its very expensive but if bought only once will it work) or is kefir better?
organic is hard to do because its sooooo expensive. triple the price of regular food which makes no sense
. Y is mcdonalds cheaper than organic food

Re: possible remedies for this type

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 1:43 am
by LabelGMOFlorida
Crap food is subsidised by our taxes. Organic farmers are over regulated, pay huge fees and never subsidized.
Huge silos of gmo corn and soy go rotten because the farmers get more from the gov than they could selling it. And now that so many countries have banned gmo crap we the tax payers get to pay for more of that crap to sit and go bad so they can plant even more next year.
Jmo
Vicki
Www.labelgmoflorida.com
Www.glutenfreeyummies.com
"bored_chick@hotmail.ca [minutus]" wrote:
hmm ok I will try probiotic first and see if it changes..........does anyone here know of the vsl3 probiotic..(its very expensive but if bought only once will it work) or is kefir better?
organic is hard to do because its sooooo expensive. triple the price of regular food which makes no sense
. Y is mcdonalds cheaper than organic food

Re: possible remedies for this type

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:02 am
by Vicki Satta
rOn Sep 4, 2014, at 4:53 PM, bored_chick@hotmail.ca [minutus] wrote:
Contact me privately if you want to talk about fermented foods and beverages. They changed my life. I think there are many, many better choices that one can make in fermented foods and beverages than kefir. While kefir is a known source of probiotics, it's still brewed with milk (raw or organic goat or cow organic). I think there are better choices. My own health has improved dramatically in the < a year that I've been culturing my own food.

I was brewing milk kefir (organic milk not raw) and it did nothing for my gut. Coconut water/coconut milk ferments are much more effective, but they easily destroy the kefir grains because those grains were meant for culturing milk. You can do it, but you have to play with the grains to culture coconut milk/water. Why not find a better choice of fermented beverages? There are many.

Good luck.
Vicki

Re: possible remedies for this type

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2014 3:15 am
by LabelGMOFlorida
Is there a good website to learn about fermenting your own foods. I love coconut kefir but it is so expensive and I think my daughter has leaky gut now so I need to find fermented foods she will eat.
Thanks
Vicki (the other one)

Www.labelgmoflorida.com
Www.glutenfreeyummies.com
"Vicki Satta victoria2dc@comcast.net [minutus]" wrote:
rOn Sep 4, 2014, at 4:53 PM, bored_chick@hotmail.ca [minutus] wrote:
Contact me privately if you want to talk about fermented foods and beverages. They changed my life. I think there are many, many better choices that one can make in fermented foods and beverages than kefir. While kefir is a known source of probiotics, it's still brewed with milk (raw or organic goat or cow organic). I think there are better choices. My own health has improved dramatically in the < a year that I've been culturing my own food.

I was brewing milk kefir (organic milk not raw) and it did nothing for my gut. Coconut water/coconut milk ferments are much more effective, but they easily destroy the kefir grains because those grains were meant for culturing milk. You can do it, but you have to play with the grains to culture coconut milk/water. Why not find a better choice of fermented beverages? There are many.

Good luck.
Vicki