What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
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Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Hey Roger,
Ahhhhh.... Well, there's the problem then!! You're missing out on the whipped cream, chocolate mousse, and cake dollopped onto your celery! Most people who indulge usually do add those things to their celery-dessert! You're just skimping it!!
;- )
With regards,
Didi Ananda Ruchira | Tel: +254 (0)723-869133 | www.abhalight.org
Ahhhhh.... Well, there's the problem then!! You're missing out on the whipped cream, chocolate mousse, and cake dollopped onto your celery! Most people who indulge usually do add those things to their celery-dessert! You're just skimping it!!
;- )
With regards,
Didi Ananda Ruchira | Tel: +254 (0)723-869133 | www.abhalight.org
Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
I am ready to indulge, but not if it involves something that will harm me, like carbohydrates and sugars. (:->) Basically, carbohydrates and sugar are inflammatory because they raise insulin and insulin is inflammatory. There is absolutely, positively no need for carbohydrates in the body. No one was ever deficient in carbohydrates. Our ancient ancestors never had to worry about too much carbohydrates because it was very unavailable to them. Only honey comes to mind, and honey was rare and very difficult to obtain and indulging in honey once a month would not be a metabolic problem.
I am getting a handle on my mild diabetes thanks to a strong commitment to a very low carb and no wheat diet.
Roger
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Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 11:35:58 +0300
Subject: [Minutus] Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Hey Roger,
Ahhhhh.... Well, there's the problem then!! You're missing out on the whipped cream, chocolate mousse, and cake dollopped onto your celery! Most people who indulge usually do add those things to their celery-dessert! You're just skimping it!!
;- )
With regards,
Didi Ananda Ruchira | Tel: +254 (0)723-869133 | www.abhalight.org
I am getting a handle on my mild diabetes thanks to a strong commitment to a very low carb and no wheat diet.
Roger
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From: abhalight@gmail.com
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 11:35:58 +0300
Subject: [Minutus] Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Hey Roger,
Ahhhhh.... Well, there's the problem then!! You're missing out on the whipped cream, chocolate mousse, and cake dollopped onto your celery! Most people who indulge usually do add those things to their celery-dessert! You're just skimping it!!
;- )
With regards,
Didi Ananda Ruchira | Tel: +254 (0)723-869133 | www.abhalight.org
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Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Don't forget about fruits and roots; our ancestors ate carbs in those forms, and for many people (Paleo Diet!) those don't cause problems.
I heartily agree with you about low carb and no wheat!
Shannon
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I heartily agree with you about low carb and no wheat!
Shannon
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Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Garlic capsules don't work. The garlic must be raw and fresh. If you can't chew it, cut it very fine and swallow it during the meal.
Rena
Rena
Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Dear Shannon,
Since I started getting swelling in my feet, and I can't really do too many fruits and roots. I have become hardcore about low-carb, and it is working. But other wise people who have no diabetic symptoms can do paleo and do fruits and roots.
People, I think that Shannon understands as I do that evolution also plays a role in the adaptations of grain. The grains with the anti-nutrients were more likely to survive and have baby grains than those that did not. So wheat has anti-nutrients like phytic acid and lectins and probably others. The animals that ate grains with anti-nutrients were less likely to thrive as well as other animals that did not eat grains, so the grains with the anti-nutrients thrived.
On the other hand, fruit do better if eaten by animals who will spread their seeds far and wide. So the fruits that tasted best and were best for the animals tended to thrive.
It is just an application of the Theory of Evolution. It all makes perfect sense. We adapted to our culinary environment for the past 2.5 millions years. On the other hand, the families and clans that prepared the correct cuisine for the past 10,000 years thrived. So the cuisine adapted to us. This is why I also advocate traditional diets a la Weston A. Price.
And, of course, you have to be true to yourself and your own experience. My wife just cannot metabolize fats very well. Trying to force her to eat fats is not healthy either for her or for me. (:->)
Roger
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Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 13:30:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Don't forget about fruits and roots; our ancestors ate carbs in those forms, and for many people (Paleo Diet!) those don't cause problems.
I heartily agree with you about low carb and no wheat!
Shannon
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Since I started getting swelling in my feet, and I can't really do too many fruits and roots. I have become hardcore about low-carb, and it is working. But other wise people who have no diabetic symptoms can do paleo and do fruits and roots.
People, I think that Shannon understands as I do that evolution also plays a role in the adaptations of grain. The grains with the anti-nutrients were more likely to survive and have baby grains than those that did not. So wheat has anti-nutrients like phytic acid and lectins and probably others. The animals that ate grains with anti-nutrients were less likely to thrive as well as other animals that did not eat grains, so the grains with the anti-nutrients thrived.
On the other hand, fruit do better if eaten by animals who will spread their seeds far and wide. So the fruits that tasted best and were best for the animals tended to thrive.
It is just an application of the Theory of Evolution. It all makes perfect sense. We adapted to our culinary environment for the past 2.5 millions years. On the other hand, the families and clans that prepared the correct cuisine for the past 10,000 years thrived. So the cuisine adapted to us. This is why I also advocate traditional diets a la Weston A. Price.
And, of course, you have to be true to yourself and your own experience. My wife just cannot metabolize fats very well. Trying to force her to eat fats is not healthy either for her or for me. (:->)
Roger
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From: shannonnelson@tds.net
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 13:30:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Don't forget about fruits and roots; our ancestors ate carbs in those forms, and for many people (Paleo Diet!) those don't cause problems.
I heartily agree with you about low carb and no wheat!
Shannon
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Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Dare I say it on this group that Ivy’s Ayurvedic Mukta Vati does it every time. I have never known anyone who it has not worked for. It must be Ivy’s not one of the cheaper look alikes!!
Rochelle
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Garlic capsules don't work. The garlic must be raw and fresh. If you can't chew it, cut it very fine and swallow it during the meal.
Rena
Rochelle
Rochelle Marsden MSc RSHom MNWCH AAMET
Southport Homeopathic Practice
Registered Homeopath and EFT (Cert. Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
https://www.facebook.com/southporthomeopathicpractice
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Subject: Re: [Minutus] What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Garlic capsules don't work. The garlic must be raw and fresh. If you can't chew it, cut it very fine and swallow it during the meal.
Rena
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Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Roger,
I have also had success with a low carb/low GI diet (+exercise) for my Type 2 inherited diabetes. The only time I know it is not actually reversed but just controlled is when I get a bad cold /flu and my blood sugar goes up and will not come down whatever I do until the infection has passed.
Rochelle
Rochelle Marsden MSc RSHom MNWCH AAMET
Southport Homeopathic Practice
Registered Homeopath and EFT (Cert. Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
https://www.facebook.com/southporthomeopathicpractice
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger B
Sent: 08 May 2014 02:36
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Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Dear Shannon,
Since I started getting swelling in my feet, and I can't really do too many fruits and roots. I have become hardcore about low-carb, and it is working. But other wise people who have no diabetic symptoms can do paleo and do fruits and roots.
People, I think that Shannon understands as I do that evolution also plays a role in the adaptations of grain. The grains with the anti-nutrients were more likely to survive and have baby grains than those that did not. So wheat has anti-nutrients like phytic acid and lectins and probably others. The animals that ate grains with anti-nutrients were less likely to thrive as well as other animals that did not eat grains, so the grains with the anti-nutrients thrived.
On the other hand, fruit do better if eaten by animals who will spread their seeds far and wide. So the fruits that tasted best and were best for the animals tended to thrive.
It is just an application of the Theory of Evolution. It all makes perfect sense. We adapted to our culinary environment for the past 2.5 millions years. On the other hand, the families and clans that prepared the correct cuisine for the past 10,000 years thrived. So the cuisine adapted to us. This is why I also advocate traditional diets a la Weston A. Price.
And, of course, you have to be true to yourself and your own experience. My wife just cannot metabolize fats very well. Trying to force her to eat fats is not healthy either for her or for me. (:->)
Roger
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To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
From: shannonnelson@tds.net
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 13:30:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Don't forget about fruits and roots; our ancestors ate carbs in those forms, and for many people (Paleo Diet!) those don't cause problems.
I heartily agree with you about low carb and no wheat!
Shannon
________________________________
I have also had success with a low carb/low GI diet (+exercise) for my Type 2 inherited diabetes. The only time I know it is not actually reversed but just controlled is when I get a bad cold /flu and my blood sugar goes up and will not come down whatever I do until the infection has passed.
Rochelle
Rochelle Marsden MSc RSHom MNWCH AAMET
Southport Homeopathic Practice
Registered Homeopath and EFT (Cert. Advanced) Practitioner
www.southporthomeopathy.co.uk
https://www.facebook.com/southporthomeopathicpractice
From: minutus@yahoogroups.com [mailto:minutus@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Roger B
Sent: 08 May 2014 02:36
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Minutus] Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Dear Shannon,
Since I started getting swelling in my feet, and I can't really do too many fruits and roots. I have become hardcore about low-carb, and it is working. But other wise people who have no diabetic symptoms can do paleo and do fruits and roots.
People, I think that Shannon understands as I do that evolution also plays a role in the adaptations of grain. The grains with the anti-nutrients were more likely to survive and have baby grains than those that did not. So wheat has anti-nutrients like phytic acid and lectins and probably others. The animals that ate grains with anti-nutrients were less likely to thrive as well as other animals that did not eat grains, so the grains with the anti-nutrients thrived.
On the other hand, fruit do better if eaten by animals who will spread their seeds far and wide. So the fruits that tasted best and were best for the animals tended to thrive.
It is just an application of the Theory of Evolution. It all makes perfect sense. We adapted to our culinary environment for the past 2.5 millions years. On the other hand, the families and clans that prepared the correct cuisine for the past 10,000 years thrived. So the cuisine adapted to us. This is why I also advocate traditional diets a la Weston A. Price.
And, of course, you have to be true to yourself and your own experience. My wife just cannot metabolize fats very well. Trying to force her to eat fats is not healthy either for her or for me. (:->)
Roger
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From: shannonnelson@tds.net
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 13:30:40 -0500
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Don't forget about fruits and roots; our ancestors ate carbs in those forms, and for many people (Paleo Diet!) those don't cause problems.
I heartily agree with you about low carb and no wheat!
Shannon
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Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Scientific studies show that garlic tablets work just fine actually.
Here is one ref:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24035939
Irene
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"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."
Here is one ref:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24035939
Irene
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Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Hello everyone,
Here are my comments on blood pressure.
If we are to believe the Banerjis and their book The Banerji Protocall they have published, they said they had monitored people with hypertension as high as 210/110 for up to 20 years without seeing any damage. (Not with all cases of course as they do individualize cases), they said beta blockers cause cardiac hypertrophy and diuretics can cause kidney failure.
My pressure has been high (supposedly) for the past 3 years, have tried hawthorne and a few remedies with no help.
Somewhere I read to take a deep breath and let it out gently and slowly just before you get your pressure taken, and breathe slowly and deeply during your pressure being taken.
Yep, did that, yesterday my pressure was 133/73 that is anywhere from 60 points systolic to 20 or 30 points dystolic lower than 'was usual for me. It seems (until I read Banerji's comments on blood pressure and relaxed, that
I was holding my breath, breathing shallowly and getting nervous the minute the cuff came out (white coat hypertension).
My husband was the same way. It took years to convince his medical doctors that his pressure spiked when the cuff came out. Fortunately I knew enough to convince him not to take the allopathic medicines, eventually when he was too ill to care about his pressure the doctors finally 'got it'.
All these people out there on pressure controlling medications. Lots of CHF, dialysis is a big business in my area, whole hosptital wings devoted to the treatment. Is this what we are seeing as a reaction to messing with pressure regulation?
Dr. Roz, you are a cardiac expert, can I hear your opinion on this?
Warmly, Maria
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Here are my comments on blood pressure.
If we are to believe the Banerjis and their book The Banerji Protocall they have published, they said they had monitored people with hypertension as high as 210/110 for up to 20 years without seeing any damage. (Not with all cases of course as they do individualize cases), they said beta blockers cause cardiac hypertrophy and diuretics can cause kidney failure.
My pressure has been high (supposedly) for the past 3 years, have tried hawthorne and a few remedies with no help.
Somewhere I read to take a deep breath and let it out gently and slowly just before you get your pressure taken, and breathe slowly and deeply during your pressure being taken.
Yep, did that, yesterday my pressure was 133/73 that is anywhere from 60 points systolic to 20 or 30 points dystolic lower than 'was usual for me. It seems (until I read Banerji's comments on blood pressure and relaxed, that
I was holding my breath, breathing shallowly and getting nervous the minute the cuff came out (white coat hypertension).
My husband was the same way. It took years to convince his medical doctors that his pressure spiked when the cuff came out. Fortunately I knew enough to convince him not to take the allopathic medicines, eventually when he was too ill to care about his pressure the doctors finally 'got it'.
All these people out there on pressure controlling medications. Lots of CHF, dialysis is a big business in my area, whole hosptital wings devoted to the treatment. Is this what we are seeing as a reaction to messing with pressure regulation?
Dr. Roz, you are a cardiac expert, can I hear your opinion on this?
Warmly, Maria
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Re: What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
High blood pressure is probably a result of eating too many carbs and becoming insulin resistant.
Roger
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Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 14:52:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [Minutus] What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Garlic capsules don't work. The garlic must be raw and fresh. If you can't chew it, cut it very fine and swallow it during the meal.
Rena
Roger
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From: gracewellness@atlanticbb.net
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wed, 7 May 2014 14:52:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [Minutus] What's the best way to lower blood pressure naturally?
Garlic capsules don't work. The garlic must be raw and fresh. If you can't chew it, cut it very fine and swallow it during the meal.
Rena