Minutus

Dear Didi,

Your wonderful email and work is packed with invaluable insights. Kudos for such caring and successful work against near impossible odds. There are all manner of lessons to learn from your email. Thank y u!
I would certainly agree with the principle where access to individual care is not even possible. That is essentially the same approach as we use in veterinary homepathy, where it can be necessary to treat an entire population (cows, wild anmals in a reseve, sheep, cattery, stables, etc) for an outbreak of something, or for sickness of multiple types (as in a cat shelter or set of rescued animals after a hurricane or other disaster).

Delivery of the remedy in animals is usually in the drinking water in such mass treatment scanarios, not sure if that would be an option where you are.
The approach is usually to assemble all symptoms from all individuals in the group, adn repertorize them as if they were from a single individual, to find a genus-multiepidemicus fro want of a better term. This will help a majority of individuals, and the ones who do not respond become a more manageble umber, and/or one might reiterate the process if not, by having subgroups unresponsive to the first choice, wiht a few remedies according to new symptom subsets.
Follow-up then can be with preventive homeopathy for whatever is most prevalent in that area.
Bilharzia:

It was prevalent in the river where I grew up and I was just lucky not to get it as I swam in infected water. I know there ar ea few different forms, usually only one kind in one area. However I am wodering if a remedy could be made icludign the various forms of it together, (so as to provide "similar" as opposed to identical remedy) to be a prophylaxis remedy.
I have had this kind of remedy made for 4 kinds of cat flu, for exampe and it is extremely effective for prophylaxis and will also halt a not too advanced case of ANY feline flu, not only the four included, due to the overall similarity of symptoms of each,m and the overlao when combining the similar diseases.
The principle is the same as the crude homeopahty where cowpox is used for smallpox prevention and to explain how TB vaccine prevents Leprosy (but not TB) etc.

I find that in mass animal work, the smartest health approach is to choose the major risks in the area and use preventive homeopaty for them. Where possible a similar preventive beats an identical one for efficacy, to cover variations of the disease that develop in response to antibiotic resistance for example.
ANother way to get better efficacy is to use an old organism. For example the 4-flu remedy I had made, used organisms from 1996, and it is better as the years pass and it becomes less identical and more similar. It is especiall betyter to zap early infection as opposed ot only being used for prophylaxis.

My other finding agrees with one of yours - where a normally preventive remedy is used during infection it will not cure by itself - and yet it can make the difference between life and death if included I find. AN example:
An outbreak of Bordetella bronchiseptica (this is walking pneumonia in humans, kennel cough in dogs and a silent killer in cats and sheep, who may live with it about three months then cough once and drop dead.
Bordetella bronchioseptica is similar to Bordetella pertussis (whooping cough). I do not see the latter in animals but it would make sense that the Bord.B remedy may well prevent or help Bord.P better thaqn say a pertussis nosode or tautopathic remedy.
Cerainlky during Bord B outbreaks in cats, the allopathis death rate is 100% under age 6 months (aka children and babies age) and 50% in previously healthy adult cats. Using matched remedy without the Bord.B remedy added in, achieves about 50% or better success in kittens and a high but incompete success in adults. Add in Bord.B as well, in 200C not 30C for this remedy, and all can be saved.
I find 200C needed where the remedy is closer to identical - as opposed to similar.

I find it is especially important to give preventive remedies in the first hour of life if the environment or mother has infection. (Protocol tested on thousands of cats: I have used aqueous 30C and to repeat twice daily for a week, thereafter a weekly dose, later monthly - later dose every 6 months preventively for 2 yrs then stop.) This can enable a sick mother cat to birth and nurse the newborn without it getting sick...even in the midst of a complete cattery outbreak of an illness where the air and mother are both full of active acute infective organisms.

Another "similar" thought is the feline reemdy for FIV (the cat version of HIV. Cats are used a lot in HIV research.) There is a FIV 30C remedy and a FIV 200C remedy. In my opinion this is far more likely to help against HIV than FIV.
This is another area in cats where I combined immune compromise disease concepts to get a remedy more effective than one (FIV) alone for cats. For cats I combine FIV, FeLV (Feline leukaemia) and FIP (an immuns compromise disease from a mutant coronavirus) into one 30C remedy. THis prevents the three immune compromise illnesses better than any one of them singly, (though they have some efficacy as well.) They are less (or un-) helpful DURING disease, and I suspect it is becasue mammals are not designed to build resistance to immune compromise disease - we lack a mechanism for that and only thymus health is the main factor for prevention of these.
TO me this makes these illnesses all the more important in a population, to prevent.
In a village where acute disease is common I would still try to improve thymus health as that is first line of defence for both acute and chronic disease. To my knowledge, homeopathy is the only method that can reverse thymus involution and damage. (caused by vaccines, steroid drugs, strong chemicals.... and longterm stress, like NBWS regardless of cause).
A final thought.
APh 141 describes the "robustness of health" (2014 translation = healthy thymus) obtained by provers of remedies. To me this argues very much in favor of "treating a village" where you have such conditions as you are up against.

I hope this may add a useful idea somewhere.
Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Dear All,

Thanks Irene for the imput

And John, I'm humbled by your accolades, but what I wrote is mostly
common medical /and or/ homeopathic knowledge in Africa or developing
countries, with a little of my own twist, of course. You're sweet,
but i'll decline the Nobel nomination!!

Actually, what pushed my knowledge in acutes are the "ol' masters"
books like Clarks Prescriber and other such gems in acute
prescribing. Clarks is full of titbits of knowledge. (such as his
cure for tapeworm, treatment of ringworm and how to cure a umbilical
hernia in babies....)

No doubt, different homeopaths around Africa will have their
favourite rx's of choice and approaches & techniques for different
diseases, I just gave some of my ideas.

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What's really needed is more funding for homeopathic research. I
performed one formal study but came up short on funds. I'd be ready
to do another if..........funding was available....
til later,

Irene wrote:
It's surely interesting that you've developed innovative treatment methods based on your ideas to support them.
It's also interesting to quote Hahnemann when convenient to try to support them as if to make valid in classical homeopathy.
Irene wrote elsewhere:
"Th ere is one remedy for one inherited trait set, so that the use of that remedy increases the robustness of health of the individual in exactly the way Hahnemann describes in Aph 141.
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Hahnemann considered some diseases incurable. That might have been so back then but we can and should do better in 2014. To do so:

The point is that understanding what the immune system does in EVERY different pathology - is a TOOL for homeopaths, not something to be ignorant about in 2014, when the research is readily available on line.

That is the part that is relevant to homeopahty - the understanding of the pathology and of the immune system.
IN ORDER to be a better homeopath.
Not in order to split hairs on semantics of words used. I really do not give a hoot whether you call a pathogen a virus, microbe, parasite, or pig in a poke, so long as the discussion stays on track - which I see as the pathology and immune system knowledge that can make us better homeopaths. "
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1) I don't remember where Hahnemann wrote about incurable diseases only incurable patients or cases.
Did he say there are incurable diseases?
2) Where you "combine FIV, FeLV (Feline leukaemia) and FIP (an immuns compromise disease from a mutant coronavirus) into one 30C remedy." this obviously overlooks what Hahnemann wrote in 6th edition Organon, § 273.
Since these are unproven (?) vaccine remedies,is that why you claim they work in some type of synergistic way, like herbal synergy?
3) How many cases have you given this Feline Trio 30C to claim, "THis prevents the three immune compromise illnesses better than any one of them singly, (though they have some efficacy as well.) "
Hahnemann wrote in a personal letter to Von Boenninghausen “October 16, 1833: From many attempts of this kind of double remedies, only one or two have been successful, which is insufficient for the establishment of a new rule. It seems to be a very doubtful and very difficult method; from several trials in this manner only one or two turned out well, which is insufficient for the proposing of a new theory.”
4) How many times have you repeated your treatment of 3 30C's to propose yet alone establish a new rule?
From my own personal observations, since I take LM remedies daily, having taken one remedy in an LM potency, taking another of the same LM potency scale stops the action of the current one. If I take a 200C of another remedy, it does not stop the current action of the LM.
5) How can you conclude definitively, other than speculate, what 3 simultaneous 30C remedies are doing?
It may be true when you wrote, "That is the part that is relevant to homeopahty - the understanding of the pathology and of the immune system. IN ORDER to be a better homeopath."

My own opinion, after 19 years of hit and miss homeopathic treatment by well meaning but sometimes incorrectly or haphazardly following Hahnemann, is that interpreting Hahnemann as clearly as possible makes one ultimately a BETTER homeopath vs. cherry picking Aph's at will to support theories that have yet to be shown valid.
I personally like to hear of what others are experimenting with but also to hear why they think they have improved upon the original Hahnemann.
Susan
§ 273
In no case under treatment is it necessary and therefore not permissible to administer to a patient more than one single, simple medicinal substance at one time. It is inconceivable how the slightest doubt could exist as to whether it was more consistent with nature and more rational to prescribe a single, simple1 medicine at one time in a disease or a mixture of several differently acting drugs. It is absolutely not allowed in homœopathy, the one true, simple and natural art of healing, to give the patient at one time two different medicinal substance.
And in the Organon § 274 he writes:
As the true physician finds in simple medicines, administered singly and uncombined, all that he can possibly desire (artificial disease-force which are able by homœopathic power completely to overpower, extinguish, and permanently cure natural diseases), he will, mindful of the wise maxim that "it is wrong to attempt to employ complex means when simple means suffice," never think of giving as a remedy any but a single, simple medicinal substance; for these reasons also, because even though the simple medicines were thoroughly proved with respect to their pure peculiar effects on the unimpaired healthy state of man, it is yet impossible to foresee how two and more medicinal substances might, when compounded, hinder and alter each other’s actions on the human body; and because, on the other hand, a simple medicinal substance when used in diseases, the totality of whose symptoms is accurately known, renders efficient aid by itself alone, if it be homœopathically selected; and supposing the worst case to happen, that it was not chosen in strict conformity to similarity of symptoms, and therefore does no good, it is yet so far useful that it promoted our knowledge of therapeutic agents, because, by the new symptoms excited by it in such a case, those symptoms which this medicinal substance had already shown in experiments on the healthy human body are confirmed, an advantage that is lost by the employment of all compound remedies.1

Dear Susan,
The quoting system does not work with your email of multiple font sizes, etc, I am not sure why.
I shall try to answer it witout losing context.

Susan:

I do not care what anyone feels is classical homeopathy.
My objective is to meet aph 1, and not to stay stagnant in Hahnemann's time.
His principles are what I follow and add to, and that works to meet APh 1.

"If you always do things the way you always did them, then by definition there can be no progress".
Maybe you want no progress.
We differ there as the viruses make progress, and I am working hard to keep up.

This FIP/FeLV/FIV 30C remedy is one remedy not three, and it is made from bits of three virsues all of which do interrupt immune system controls. It is not a mixture of remedies any more than pulsatilla is a mixture despite its vastly greater number of chemical components.

As to Hahnemann principles usage, he does explain the use of remedies as a way to get robust health in aph 141, it is not an imaginary concept.
Susan:

Same concept to me. You are splitting hairs.

It does not.
Hahnemann lacks any writings to speak of for prophylaxis of anything, much less viral diseases that did not exist in his day.
So to me that is not an excuse to continue to let FIP and others, kill more and more cats each year. In 1960 the percentage was zero deaths, the disease was unknown.
BY two years ago the percentage was 5% of cats die of it per year.
Currently it is ten percent of cats who die per year of FIP with zero survivors via veterinary profession, and so that is just one of the three viral imune system disruptors I wish to prevent.
BY the way there are an estimated 70milion cats in USA homes. So that is 7 millions dead cats per year from FIP in USA alone.
Becasue Hahnemann knew nothing about it, means I must rest on his laurels?
I do not consider them unproven at all.
Initially they were used by approximately 500 cat breeders in Cape Town on an average of thirty cats each. That is about 15,000 cats. THen they were used by a few thousand clients I have had over the years for their catteris or pets. Let's be conservative and say another 5000 to make 20 thousand cats.
PER YEAR, from FIP alone, that means there should be 2,000 dead cats..... per year, remember.
There has not been one case reported of FIP or FeLV or FIV.
To me that makes it proven.
I feel sorry for anyone whose cat is not protected becasue they feel this is not classical enough.
THis is not a double remedy.
It is a singla remedy, carefully devised against a broad set of immune system disruptions.
Likewise the URI 30C remedy made form ONE mixture of cat flu compnents, is even more widely used and for many more decades, with great success.
In Your opinion.
To me the prevention of 2000 deaths a year with zero side effects is more than suficient to establish a new approach in prophylaxis of viral immune system disrptor viruses, and also for URI prevention.
In what way?
The cats happily take the aqueous remedy and then do not get sick. What's difficult about that?
Explain what are you referring to please? I know of no "trials with one or two turning out well."
Already answered.
I do not use LM remedies. They are ineffective for my purposes.
The world has moved non - Fibonacci potencies are appropriate in 2014.
It is not speculation.
The tens of thousands of cats do not get disrupted immune systems and do not get any of the three feline immune system disrupting diseases.
If their immune system was not being kept robust, they would be getting these diseases.
Speak for yourself; I use Hahnemann's principles, apply them in new ways, and check the results.
It improves on Hahnamann as he did not know how to prevent immune system disrupting situations in his clients. In 2014, immun system disruption is a huge if not the biggest challenege to work with.
In H's day that was not so.
Man only invented ways to smash the immune systems of the entire population after his time - and the viruses that do it also evolved after his time to take advantage.
The remedies referred to above are one simple single remedy:-)
But I am talking disease prevention and H is talking disease treatment.
NOT the same subject even.
YOu can not use FIP/FeLV/FIP 30C for a disease.
Only to prevent disease.
It is not used for healing and not more than one remedy.
No disease involved in what I am discussing.
Implies complex means are valid IF simple does not suffice.
Another subject:-)

Hahnemann did way too little to prevent disease.
Somethig that kills 10% of cats with no known effective treatment, is worth preventing.
Whether H would have agreed or not:-)

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

I want to thank you so much for your reply to my questions as well as all the time you took to give me such a comprehensive answer.

It almost seems, at least in the USA and perhaps parts of Europe, that Homeopathy rose and fell with those diseases. I admire the work you are doing and would love to be able to join you in the future as a volunteer.

I do believe we are seeing vestiges of those diseases here in the USA. Pertussus seemed to have made the rounds, everything but the whoop and intensity (thank God), but the duration of the cough went on for months with some people. How dare we call it pertussus with all of the vaccinations people have received in this country! It is quite obvious that we may not be equipped to handle a virulent outbreak. Allopaths were giving Codine to supress the cough and it didn't work very well.

Do you take interested students, and can you tell me the relative safety of going to Africa to work as an apprentice homeopath? I have had students ask me about this, as well as family having fits as all they hear of Africa is the rapes and indignities people are subjected to there.

Warm regards, and thanks again,

Maria

Irene…
…something made from bits of three viruses -- mixed together -- is an arbitrary mixture. That is, it is three potential medicines, or remedies, not one.
In Hahnemann's terms, Pulsatilla is -- as we've dealt with explicitly in putting this same self-serving argument of yours to rest before -- a single, simple substance. Yes, it's possible to separate its components because it too is a mixture; but it is a mixture in just the same way in which Opium and Nux vomica are mixtures. That is, it is the unmixed product of a single organism. And it seems that it is because it is not some arbitrary mixture of three organisms (such as you compare to it) that such a substance has predictable medicinal effects and so has been able not only to be used in predictable ways as medicine but also to be proven. And that, of course, is the key to its use in homoeopathy.
Irene:
See the opening sentence of §273, Irene: "In no case under treatment is it necessary and therefore [it is] not permissible to administer to a patient more than one single, simple medicinal substance at one time" [emphasis Hahnemann's].
Susan:
Irene:
But actually what it shows is that you do not understand the first thing about homoeopathy, which is its provings, its pathogenetic trials. A proving cannot consist of -- and cannot be replaced by -- anybody's "experience" of success in the use of an unpredictable, unknown mixture of drugs to forestall contraction of a disease.
Susan, commencing to quote Hahnemann:
Irene:
Susan, continuing to quote Hahnemann:
Irene:
Irene, you arrived at this conclusion -- and argued with Hahnemann immediately before that -- only because you failed to maintain your attention for as long as a single sentence and realise that Susan was quoting Hahnemann. That is, the foolishness of that presumption was visible to you, had you merely paid a modicum of attention.
Susan, still quoting Hahnemann:
Irene:
Since you conduct no provings of any kind and rely upon failure to fall ill as constituting what you believe is a proving as well as serving as toxicological study, you're unable to state with any certainty that the cats injected with these three viruses do not get sick. You're also unable to answer Susan's doubts about the method -- first, because you have no idea what they are (and they're clearly going to be more sophisticated than will be answered by a belief that a cat's failure to fall ill is a homoeoapathic proving); second, because rather than listen to and consider the wisdom that Susan offers you here, your response to every phrase is to drown in an avalanche of pseudoscience that substitutes half-baked immunology for pathogenetic trials all doubt, all skepticism, and all proper consideration. Until your overweening self-confidence is tempered with a grain of questioning, you will never even hear, let alone comprehend, the doubts that you should have entertained before committing yourself even once to the falsehoods you repeat here year in and year out.
Susan, concluding her quotation of Hahnemann:
Irene:
Again, a modicum of outward attention, Irene, would have saved you the embarrassment of having extended your arguement with Susan's quotation from Hahnemann under the illusion that you're browbeating Susan.
Susan:
Irene:
You utter preening fool. In how many ways must somebody ask you the same question before you understand it or even doubt your comprehension of it?
Read the Organon you keep claiming to know something of, Irene, and you'll find that without a pathogenetic proving, there can be no knowledge of the primary effect of a substance; and that without that there can be no homoeopathy.
Irene:
If you had the first clue as to the single, central principle upon which homoeopathy relies, would you be so foolish as to continue to make such ludicrous claims as you have above?
Susan, quoting Hahnemann:
Irene, arguing that her mixtures of three medicines are one medicine:
Susan, continuing to quote Hahnemann:
Irene, inadvertently admitting that her "prevention" falls entirely outside the scope of what she considers to be homoeopathy in an effort to hedge:
Susan, continuing to quote Hahnemann:
Irene, scrabbling to use any argument at all to bail water:
Susan, quoting Hahnemann:
Irene, again hedging and thus admitting that use of her drug mixtures falls outside the scope of homoeopathy:
Susan, continuing to quote Hahnemann:
Irene, mistaking this noose for a loophole:
Irene, as anybody could confirm who has actually studied homoeopathy, Hahnemann, in the course of several significant medical careers in a single lifetime, perpetrated at least fifteen revolutions in medicine:
• first, as a practising allopath and later as a writer, arguing convincingly that no advance in medicine could come of polypharmacy, since no reliable knowledge could be obtained even of a single "success" in treatment (or prevention);
• second, as a writer and medical philosopher, devising and seizing the notion that actual knowledge of medicines' powers could best be obtained by learning the effects of each individual medicine, alone, on healthy volunteers able to report their subjective experiences;
• third, as a medical investigator, drawing and investigating the hypothesis -- suggested by a single dramatic experience -- that a medicine is most dramatically able to quell disease, in any individual, to the symptoms of which its effects upon the healthy are similar;
• fourth, as a physician–teacher, communicating the import of what he had learnt, in order to gather together a band of principled physicians, and instituting provings in such a way that the knowledge obtained would be as useful and as reliable as possible; and, as a forensic chemist, supplementing that knowledge with the results of reliable toxicological studies;
• fifth, as a physician–philosopher, organising that knowledge into a schema suitable for clinical use;
• sixth, in that same role, finding many lifestyle and other contributing causes to derangement of the vitality and hypothesising concerning what could not then be known, such as the role of microbes in evidently infectious illnesses;
• seventh, as a medical campaigner, making the public case for homoeopathy and against allopathy and mongrelism;
• eighth, as a natural scientist, devising and standardising, in serial dilution, means (plural) of accurate dose reduction beyond the limits of measurability in order to seek the lower limits of dosage in homoeopathic practice;
• ninth, as a scientist–philosopher, grasping the significance of his failure to find a lower limit to effective dosage using the method he had devised to instituted serial dilution; and refining and communicating the potency concept in order to render harmless the theretofore hazards of medical treatment particularly by a medicine whose first effects in successful treatment are to mimic the symptoms that a patient is already suffering under;
• tenth, as an analytical chemist, discovering a means of rendering insoluble substances soluble for the purpose of dynamising them;
• eleventh, as a natural scientist, refining the methods of trituration and discovering that trituration with lactose enabled dynamisation similar to dynamisation under serial dilution;
• twelfth, as a physician, finding fault with the very method he had devised, for its failure to maintain health from year to year without repetition of treatment;
• thirteenth, as a medical scientist, grasping that a more fundamental disease process underlay the various chronic illnesses that an individual passed through;
• fourteenth, as a medical historian, finding several lines of evidence as to the infective natures of those underlying diseases and as to their symptomatic expressions; and
• fifteenth, as a physician–philosopher, conceptualising the means by which the very system of medical practice whose ultimate success he had lately come to despair of -- homoeopathy -- could, merely through deeper practice, address the underlying chronic diseases responsible for the eruptions of illness formerly understood to be diseases in their own right.
And that says nothing of a career in homoeopathic treatment of patients the success of which any homoeopath living today could weep to aspire to, and of his timely newspaper publication of accurate prescriptions -- prescriptions that he had never tested -- for treating and preventing malaria.
And you, who stand on the shoulder of the giant who was Hahnemann and think yourself thereby a colossus: you are a gnat. Yes, a gnat, as are we all; but you are a gnat of a most insignificant stripe precisely because your entire life energy goes into preening yourself.
Look around you, Irene, and learn. Examine with a fresh eye the pure gold that Susan humbly offered you in this conversation and that others have humbly offered you in other conversations, and realise what an ungrateful parasitic wretch you have emulated in response. Understand with a fresh mind the pure gold that Hahnemann freely distributed in the Organon and in The Chronic Diseases, and realise how miserable your existence could have continued to be had you failed ever to grasp the power of the concepts whose existence you have so far failed even to guess at. Or merely hear with a fresh ear the difference between the humble words of somebody on the path of true discovery and the excitable bleating of ignoramuses who know everything, and realise that, in the opening of an eye, you could change your life.
In frank disbelief,
John
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In consigning its regulatory powers to its subject corporations, a government surrenders its electoral right to govern.

Absolutely beautiful work Didi! Thank you for sharing your experiences.

Tikva Sasson
HomeopathyforHumanity.org

Hi Marie,

You wrote:

Karibu (welcome to) Kenya & Africa to all student & experienced
homeopaths alike.

Welcome to join us at Abha Light www.abhalight.org/volunteer.html

Africa is a huge continent of 55 countries and is NOT only what you
see on CNN/ BBC. Just as you wouldn't expect to judge Vancouver
Canada by what you hear of drug cartels in Mexico, so you shouldn't
judge the whole of Africa as all starving babies and rapacious
warlords. Though no doubt there is a higher %age of poverty here
(about 50% in most places) with its attendent diseases, & social ills, etc

Not only with regards to Abha Light, but taking the liberty to speak
for all homeo projects in Africa, I can assure you that your hosts
will ensure your security and would not place you in a insecure
situation or in the middle of a warzone (where all those rapes are
taking place).

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At Abha Light we have 2 strong established village clinics run by
Kenyan homeopaths. We also have new Kenyan homeos setting up new
village clinics.

We welcome students to get some practicum hours or just experience
(as apprentices). In the past we've had arrangements with various
colleges to sign off on credit hours. You can ask your college if its
possible. Students can expect to get 4-6 hours a day of clinical
work (about 100-120 hours in a typical 1 month visit).

Experienced homeopaths can help us in "pioneering" by mentoring young
homeoapths as they set up their new clinics. Or they can practice
from our established clinics.

All our homeopaths are eager to learn from volunteers they offer by
way of insights and techniques. And our homeopaths have something to
offer by their extensive experience in tropical diseases and cultural approach.

====

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Africa is many times the size of USA. It has a crime rate like anywhere else.
To see the real size of Africa see this map which draws onto an Africa outline, how USA, India, China Europe etc al fit within the size of Africa:
http://0.tqn.com/d/goafrica/1/0/b/Q/tru ... africa.jpg

It helps to have actual statistics for crime to get this also in perspective:
In USA for example, FBI says that in 2012 there were 1,214,462 violent crimes, 13,356 more than in 2011.
http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press- ... statistics
That is an awful lot, and seriously on the rise. Perhaps you need to ask about your safety in USA? So averaging over fifty states, YOUR state (whichever it is) had 24,290 violent crimes, which is 267 more than 2011. Is YOUR state a safe place to go with such a lot of violence happening there?

I grew up in an African country (there are at least 52 countries in Africa last time I counted) , and certainly if you go to rough areas, you can expect a higher crime rate, but tourism is one of the biggest industries in Africa, which would not be the case unless it was a generally good place to visit.

In Kenya, which is a country of 225,000 square miles,(close to size of Kansas state at 212,000, and smaller than California) occyupying less than two percent of Africa, and the country where I think Abha Light is located, in 2013 the murder rate was 1,749 cases recorded country-wide. Compare that with an average of 24,290 violent crimes per state in USA in 2012.


The reported crimes we see on TV, from various African countries are highlighted, they do not highlight anything else on the news. The reporting is not put into perspective. In real perspective:
Perhaps you should move to Kenya due to the lack of safety in USA, based on actual statistics:-)

Namaste,
Irene
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Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

Well put Irene. On another group the discussion was about
vaccine pro and con. The pro people were afraid of their dogs
biting someone and what the consequences could/would be.
Several answered in your vein—the chances of your dog, under
your control biting someone is a heck of a lot less than the
consequences of vaccines over which you have no control at all.
The media does its job very well promoting fear of the ‘other’
especially if it involves people of color.
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From: Irene de Villiers
Sent: Monday, May 05, 2014 6:47 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Re: Epidemic Diseases
Africa is many times the size of USA. It has a crime rate like anywhere else.
To see the real size of Africa see this map which draws onto an Africa outline, how USA, India, China Europe etc al fit within the size of Africa:
http://0.tqn.com/d/goafrica/1/0/b/Q/tru ... africa.jpg

It helps to have actual statistics for crime to get this also in perspective:
In USA for example, FBI says that in 2012 there were 1,214,462 violent crimes, 13,356 more than in 2011.
http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press- ... statistics
That is an awful lot, and seriously on the rise. Perhaps you need to ask about your safety in USA? So averaging over fifty states, YOUR state (whichever it is) had 24,290 violent crimes, which is 267 more than 2011. Is YOUR state a safe place to go with such a lot of violence happening there?

I grew up in an African country (there are at least 52 countries in Africa last time I counted) , and certainly if you go to rough areas, you can expect a higher crime rate, but tourism is one of the biggest industries in Africa, which would not be the case unless it was a generally good place to visit.

In Kenya, which is a country of 225,000 square miles,(close to size of Kansas state at 212,000, and smaller than California) occyupying less than two percent of Africa, and the country where I think Abha Light is located, in 2013 the murder rate was 1,749 cases recorded country-wide. Compare that with an average of 24,290 violent crimes per state in USA in 2012.


The reported crimes we see on TV, from various African countries are highlighted, they do not highlight anything else on the news. The reporting is not put into perspective. In real perspective:
Perhaps you should move to Kenya due to the lack of safety in USA, based on actual statistics:-)

Namaste,
Irene
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