Veterinary problem with cow

[Tanya Marquette]

What a sad story.
I may be overly reacting, but when I see these things and know the owner
is feeding some kind of commercial feed, GMO damage comes to mind.
I do hope she has taken me seriously and is making a couple of phone calls.
Any time a distributor cannot claim GMO free, it has to be assumed the grains
are GE. Corn, Soy, Canola, Sugar Beets, and now Alfalfa –the main animal feeds
are all GE.
In 2004? 05? Monsanto predicted total world control of all major foods within 5 yrs!
The push back has been phenomenal and they have not made their goal. Further, 60
countries have outright bans, to limits placed on GMO foodstuff. But the US is as
obstructionist as it gets when it comes to public and environmental health and safety.
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From: Shannon Nelson
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 9:19 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Veterinary problem with cow

Well, the bump on the spine maybe worth looking more at? If it's a tumor pressing on the spine, maybe that could be the cause?
But it also reminds me of our goat who ate thistles that had been recently sprayed. I have forgotten some of the details, but he got to where he was just fine, except he couldn't get up. He could get upright except not on his feet, was happy, friendly, good appetite if fed by hand and given water by syringe, but he could not get up. It may have gone on for a week, then the vet thought maybe a shot of B vitamins would help his recovery (which seemed to have plateaued), and he died that night from -- I figured out only much later -- anaphylactic reaction to the shot. So I don't know whether he could/would have recovered or not, but before the shot he seemed stable and happy, perky, always happy for company, and pretty unconcerned about not being able to walk.
Shannon

[Tanya Marquette]

Just got this answer from the cow owner:
”The problem is nerve damage and possible a ruptured disc. Probably from the bull or another cow riding her. Maybe the older calves bumped into her while playing.

She appears to have given up. As I mentioned the cows are range fed but I do keep mineral and salt out for them. The lump below her shoulders is larger from golf ball to tennis ball.

She wouldn't get up on her front feet yesterday when we lifted her. The leg hangs out at an odd angle and she does not move it while lifted. It did bend for the first time yesterday but was soon straight out.

The vet said he hasn't had any luck with any of his own cows with similar injury or symptoms.”
So, it is physical injury diagnosis in an older cow that did not respond to the Vit B injections or manipulation effort.
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From: Irene de Villiers
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 8:48 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Veterinary problem with cow
If the cow has really been down as long as a week as claimed, the chances of saving it are close to nil:-(
Cows are too heavy to stay down, the weight prevents the muscles underneath the cow from getting blood, the nerves die, the muscles are badly damaged, and all is lost.
It can help if the cow is a lighter one and gets turned to different positions regularly, but a down cow who cannot get up - and is not just having a short rest - is an emergency.
Having the cow lifted in a sling till it can stand on its own is the proper action. But not too many small herd farmers are set up with some sort of trailer contraption to do that. A vet may have one, or one can rig a tripod of long logs over the cow with a block and tackle and a suitable sling, and hoist her up. ANd get the vet to diagnose.
Leaving a cow down for several days is a nonviable option. Any cow farmer will (should?) know that.
(Sometimes I wonder on this list what people will "farm" with zero knowledge at the expense of the animal's welfare).
Indeed.
Possible. More common in Spring (assuming this is Northern hemisphere cow farming) is toxic weeds, there are several that will put a cow down.

But speed is of the essence here.
.....Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."

[Shannon Nelson]

Diagnosis, huzzah.

That brings Hypericum leaping to mind for a start -- high potency or low? I have read it both ways for spinal injuries. I would say there's nothing to lose by trying!

[Dale Moss]

It may be worthwhile giving her Causticum 200c, 3 pellets every hour for a total of 6 doses per day. I'd try it for three days, although it will usually become apparent if it's working after the first 6 doses.
An alternative might be Bellis-p., same dosage schedule. But I'd try the Causticum first. It saved my dog when he developed a similar paralysis after spinal injury. In his case, however, there was also bowel and bladder paralysis, which is what put me onto the remedy.
Peace,
Dale

[Patricia Adams]

I have had success with a horse who had been kicked by another horse and had a big lump on a hip and three vertebrae out of place- having read somewhere that Hypericum was used in war time for soldiers with spinal issues, we gave her the hypericum and the horse, interestingly enough, did some rolling over the next few days and her vertebrae went back into place...it was on eof those amazing events one never forgets. hope you find success for your cow...
Patricia

From: Shannon Nelson
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 11:02 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Veterinary problem with cow
Diagnosis, huzzah.

That brings Hypericum leaping to mind for a start -- high potency or low? I have read it both ways for spinal injuries. I would say there's nothing to lose by trying!

[Tanya Marquette]

Dear All
I want to thank you for your input on this sad case.
The owner just posted that she put the cow down.
It had been eating and relaxed but not showing
improvement in moving/standing. I have not had
a private conversation with her so don’t know any
details other than she made that decision. I know
it was heartbreaking for her.
thanks again
tanya
From: Patricia Adams
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 10:37 PM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Veterinary problem with cow

I have had success with a horse who had been kicked by another horse and had a big lump on a hip and three vertebrae out of place- having read somewhere that Hypericum was used in war time for soldiers with spinal issues, we gave her the hypericum and the horse, interestingly enough, did some rolling over the next few days and her vertebrae went back into place...it was on eof those amazing events one never forgets. hope you find success for your cow...
Patricia
From: Shannon Nelson
Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2014 11:02 AM
To: minutus@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Minutus] Veterinary problem with cow

Diagnosis, huzzah.
That brings Hypericum leaping to mind for a start -- high potency or low? I have read it both ways for spinal injuries. I would say there's nothing to lose by trying!

[Irene de Villiers]

Very sorry. So sad, as cows are tricky that way, they cannot be down long:-(

Namaste,
Irene
--
Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom/D.Vet.Hom.
P.O. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.
www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)
"Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it."